posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 11:53 AM
Allah be praised! An intelligent thread topic on ATS for once. Hope it gets more replies than most of its kind are fated to. Don't hold yer
Originally posted by Misoir
Judging by what you know of the Labour party before and after Tony Blair, which do you think is better and looks out for the workers best? Do you
support the positions of New Labour(1997-Now) or Old Labour(1893-1996)?
Are they comparable? One hundred and three years is a long time. The Labour Party went through a lot of changes in it. It had its ups and downs: the
Attlee and Wilson years were examples of the former, the long years in the political wilderness pre-1920s and the debacle of the post-Wilson 1970s and
the Thatcher revolution that followed (leading to more years in the wilderness for Labour) were instances of the latter. The obloquy of being duped
for so long by Stalin is also something the party finds hard to live down. The modern world would have been very different, I think, if Labour had not
been part of Britain's wartime National Government, influencing that government to take a much softer line with Stalin than otherwise might have been
To answer your question directly, I think Labour looked out for the workers better before 1970, both in and out of government. Politically - as the
fascinating Political Compass
article you link to explains - New Labour is, in terms of policy, an entirely different party, one more aligned
to the middle classes than to the workers, and quite authoritarian as well as right-wing.
Mind you, it could easily be argued that today's middle classes are equivalent to yesterday's workers, and probably to the peasants of the day
before too. I suppose that's all right then.
And do you think after this serious bruising not just against British New Labour, but also against all of the Center-left parties in Europe,
will they return to their roots of opposing corporations, neoliberalism, supporting workers, protecting human rights and expanding our liberties?
No, I don't. As the Compass
article also states, the role of workers' champion has now fallen to nationalist, exclusionary parties such as
for a really interesting thread.