reply to post by Shadowhawk
Ha, I started typing "dreamlandresort" into Chromium, and the first thing that popped up was dreamlandresort.com/area51/sat_image_2009.jpg . Guess
I've seen it before.....although this particular image only shows a sliver of the dry lake bed, hold on...hmmm...I can't find anything on Dreamland
Resort about moving runway 03-21, nor can Google, and I can't find anything on Dreamland Resort that shows the dry lake bed in 2009 satellite photos,
only the main base. I'm guessing you know where I can find it?
I tried googling for anything about it moving in general, and all I found was
a post by you
last year on this site, talking about how it had moved south
1 mile, which is almost exactly what I calculated in my original post, so I think it's pretty definitive that that's what we're looking at. Darn, I
was hoping I'd found something new, but alas, you beat me by almost a year.
Anyway, I took a lot of pictures and I'll post them....somewhere...here? I'm not sure. I guess I'll just tack them on as a reply in this thread
unless someone knows of a place for them. I don't suppose they'd belong in the "Pictures from Inside Groom Lake" thread since they aren't.
They're taken from very far away, so you can't really see anything significant (though I have seen someone's pictures from Tikaboo on a
particularly bad day that were less clear than these. In mine, you can make out some of the larger structures, mainly hangers, runways, that sort of
thing, certainly nothing detailed. I'll only post them because of a couple things that make them somewhat unique:
1. They were taken yesterday, so they are very current, some of the most recent if not the most recent photos of the base.
2. They are taken from a unique vantage point. I can't think of any photos I've seen that were taken from this direction. There probably are some,
but I can't think of any I've seen, and I've seen a lot.
3. They are a series of 40 pictures taken from a moving vantage point at 32,000 ft. The first picture is taken from approximately 36.40N 116.16W
(I'm getting this data from the actual aircraft's reporting during the flight, available at
) with pretty much all of the base visible on the right
side of the mountains to its west, and the last photo is taken from approximately 37.12N 117.02W with about half of the base visible on the
side of those mountains. So, the series of pictures make a centered pan of more than 70 miles, making a 65.5 degree sweep around the base.
You could probably even tack them together into an animation, rotating around the base. Though, they were actually taken during the recording of a
video, so I guess you could just watch that instead.
The major benefit to looking at the pictures over the video is that they are higher resolution
(3648x2736) than the video (640x480). Of course, the resolution of the pictures might as well be quite a bit lower (1280x960 should be fine) since
they're so fuzzy. Now that I think about it, the best thing to do might be to shrink them to 640x480 32bpc HDR images and then adjust them for
optimal contrast, but now I'm getting side-tracked.