2012, Obama, Antichrist, World Currency, Israel: Ultimate Thread

Originally posted by ATADJADED

But, I still have a few questions.
1)If a demon cannot throw out a demon, how does the Catholic church pull this off??
More of the lie??

Orthodox Life, Vol. 34, No. 6 (Nov.-Dec., 1984), pp. 33-36.

The Holy Orthodox Church is the repository of the divinely revealed Truth in all its fullness and fidelity to apostolic Tradition. Hence, he who leaves the Church, who intentionally and consciously falls away from it, joins the ranks of its opponents and becomes a renegade as regards apostolic Tradition. The Church dreadfully anathematized such renegades, in accordance with the words of the Saviour Himself (Matt. 18:17) and of the Apostle Paul (Gal. 1:8-9), threatening them with e ternal damnation and calling them to return to the Orthodox fold. It is self evident, however, that sincere Christians who are Roman Catholics, or Lutherans, or members, of other non-Orthodox confessions, cannot be termed renegades or heretics—i.e. those who knowingly pervert the truth...* They have been born and raised and are living according to the creed which they have inherited, just as do the majority of you who are Orthodox; in their lives there has not been a moment of personal and conscious renunciation of Orthodoxy. The Lord, "Who will have all men to be saved" (I Tim. 2:4) and "Who enlightens every man born into the world" (Jn. 1.43), undoubtedly is leading them also towards salvation In His own way.

With reference to the above question, it is particularly instructive to recall the answer once given to an inquirer by the Blessed Theophan the Recluse. The blessed one replied more or less thus: "You ask, will the heterodox be saved... Why do you worry about them? They have a Saviour Who desires the salvation of every human being. He will take care of them. You and I should not be burdened with such a concern. Study yourself and your own sins... I will tell you one thing, however: should you, being Orthodox and possessing the Truth in its fullness, betray Orthodoxy, and enter a different faith, you will lose your soul forever."

We believe the foregoing answer by the saintly ascetic to be the best that can be given in this matter.

* The Greek word for "heresy" is derived from the word for "choice" and hence inherently implies conscious, willful rejection or opposition to the Divine Truth manifest in the Orthodox Church.

Originally posted by ATADJADED
2) No one can intercede for you with GOD except his son...unless you are Catholic.

I take it you never pray for your friends and family, and never ask anyone else to pray for you either?

7) The bible consists of 66 books. 33 books were removed. Many are mentioned in the bible. ( Is it not written in the book of Enoch?...Is it not written in the book of Jashur? to name a few)

The Bible is primarily a liturgical book for use in Church. That is why the Seven Ecumenical Councils were concerned with things like the Nicene Creed, rather than what a Protestant would consider the first order of business: what books go into the Bible.

Surprised by Christ: My Journey from Judaism to Orthodox Christianity, pp. 136-137:

He also said, "I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18). Our Lord did not leave us with only a book to guide us. He left us with His Church. The Holy Spirit within the Church teaches us, and His teaching complements the Scriptue.

I came to see how foolish it was for me to believe that God's full illumination ceased after the New Testament books were written, not to resume until the Protestant Reformation in the sixteenth century, or--to take this argument to its logical conclusion--until the very moment when I myself started reading the Bible. Either the Holy Spirit was in the Church throughout the centuries following the New Testament period, leading, teaching, and illuminating her in her understanding of the gospel message, or the Church had been left a spiritual orphan, with individual Christians independently interpreting--and often teaching with an assumption of authority--the same Scripture in radically different ways. I became convinced such chaos could not be the will of God, "for God is not the author of confusion but of peace" (1 Corinthians 14:33).

No, Ian, I would never pray for those who were given free will.
They will pray ( if they chose), and God will let it be as he wishes anyway.

It is written, not to worry about things, because God knows what we need.
I feel that there is very little intervention. We were given a free will, and thrown into a life of circumstance and consequence.
Nothing that happens holds any significance...only how we handle it.
So, praying away troubles is fruitless. Those troubles are the "test" of our character, which determines who lives forever and who does not.

I also seriously hope that no one prays for ME. Because, they would probably do it in the NAME of Jesus Christ...who does not exist.
The NAME of the messiah is Yesuha...

Think of it like this. If your NAME is Ian, and you were walking across the parking lot, and I called out, Michael, please come help me., You would keep walking. You are not Michael.

Remember, "They will cry out, Lord, Lord, look at all I have done in your NAME, and he will say: " I never knew you"..
Plus, during the time of the apostles, THEY were told to go out and spread the "good news".....WE were told, near the end of REV...."Let the filthy be filthy still".
GOD will take no pity on those who call out in the final hour, and neither will I.
It sounds cold, but Noah and his family didnt pull those people to safety who were scratching and clawing at the ark either, did they??
It IS a beautiful story, until you think about it...what a horrifying day. But, GODs will none the less.
ONE family made it......Look around. You cant possibly believe that all of these people mocking GOD are going to make it because they claim to be Christians, do you? Ignorance is no excuse. They were told what HE wanted, and they did what THEY thought was right.
As for the churches...it is written, don't put your faith in the wisdom of man, but in the power of GOD.

Originally posted by ATADJADED
No, Ian, I would never pray for those who were given free will.
They will pray ( if they chose), and God will let it be as he wishes anyway.

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I also seriously hope that no one prays for ME. Because, they would probably do it in the NAME of Jesus Christ...who does not exist.

Then this will be the last time that I will respond to you, or this thread will go off completely off topic. I doubt either of us would convince the other anyway.

James 5:16:

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Originally posted by Eye of Horus
Obamas not the anti-christ. That one comes from the tribe of Dan. And is now living somewhere in the middle east. Studying and building his power base. I know the name the your anti-christ. His name begins with the letter.."N".

Yes, the Antichrist is supposed to come from the tribe of Dan, but Dan is one of the lost tribes of Israel. Therefore, we currently have no way of knowing whether Obama "comes from the tribe of Dan." Unless, he imposes the Mark of the Beast in order to buy or sell, which means he is the Antichrist beyond a shadow of a doubt, which means he is descended from the tribe of Dan.

Originally posted by maybee
Oh by the way, now I have American Pie stuck in my head.

[link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pie_(song)[/link]

Notable references in the song

Vladimir Lenin/John Lennon - read a book of Marx
Karl Marx
The Beatles - The Quartet

And while Lenin/Lennon read a book on Marx

Whose Words Obama or Lenin Socialism (May 10, 2009)

John Lennon, "Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now."

The quartet practiced in the park

The Beatles Exposed

And we sang dirges [funeral hymns or laments] in the dark

Creepy Obama Music - From Acceptance Speech

Video featuring the weird and ominous music played at the end of Barack Obama's acceptance speech at Invesco Field. The music seems to portend something bad coming. A far cry from the usual balloons and high energy music typical of these conventions. Is this an election or a revolution?

Communist flag at Whitehouse, Obama victory rally

The day the music died

A fly lands on President Barack Obama's face:
news.yahoo.com...

A fly lands on President Barack Obama's face as he delivers remarks on the Affordable Care Act and the New Patients Bill of Rights, Tuesday, June 22, 2010, in the East Room of the White House in Washington.

Obama: Lord of the Flies, swats fly (2009):
www.youtube.com...

Notice also 1:04 to 1:11, fly crawling on Obama's head during a 2008 campaign debate.


Going All Out For Obeezy! (8/25/08)
matadorpulse.com...

1. Obeezy
www.urbandictionary.com...

Nickname for 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama.
"Did you see Obeezy's nomination speezy?"

Beezy as short for Beelzebub (Lord of the Flies), son of Lucifer:
www.icv2.com...

The premise: young Johnny finds himself in monster filled “Miseryville” which his infectious love of fun makes an enemy of its tiny ruler Lucius and friends of his son Beezy (who looks like a fratboy version of Hellboy) and the town’s only other human, Heloise. The show definitely has a sense of maniacal glee that’s appealing but... maybe I’m reading too many things into it but… Beezy, Beelzebub? Lucius, Lucifer? Heloise… Hell? I think what we have here is a Disney cartoon about a kid who’s been sent to Hell.

Obeezy sounds short for "Old Beelzebub" or "Obama is Beelzebub" (Lord of the Flies). Which would seem fitting for a leader that has problems with flies crawling on his head and around his mouth during his public speeches.

[edit on 29-6-2010 by Ian the Christian]

Pope breaks wrist after fall (17 Jul 2009):
www.thesun.co.uk...

The right hand that shook Obama's hand the week before and that he used to write his third encyclical.

(July 10th, 2009) Obama Wraps G-8 Summit, Meets With Pope:
www.youtube.com...

(July 7, 2009) Pope calls for 'God-centered' global economy:
www.usatoday.com...

Pope Benedict XVI today called for reforming the United Nations and establishing a "true world political authority" with "real teeth" to manage the global economy with God-centered ethics.

In his third encyclical, a major teaching, released as the G-8 summit begins in Italy, the pope says such an authority is urgently needed to end the current worldwide financial crisis.

I watched a documentary yesterday and they said prince william would be the antochrist but i think they would had need to kill him mum as some type of sacrifice instead of just crashing the car so i can not see it.

When it comes to the one world currency i think it's past becoming a theory if you read whats comeing out of the UN/IMF that are controlled by the zionist.

Once they crash the system then anyone with debt will be forced to sell property for cents on the $ to the banks but myself i would burn it before giving in to that one.

O for heavens sake Obama is a product just like a Mc Donalds hamburger hes been packaged and spun with hype and hyperbole but when it comes to the crunch just like a Macca's burger truth be told hes nothing exeptional.Hes no Mao,Lenin or Stalin just a glorified Chicago politician with socialist leanings trust me hes not going down in history as anything other than a man with his ambitions and abilities seriously confused.

Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
O for heavens sake Obama is a product just like a Mc Donalds hamburger hes been packaged and spun with hype and hyperbole but when it comes to the crunch just like a Macca's burger truth be told hes nothing exeptional.Hes no Mao,Lenin or Stalin just a glorified Chicago politician with socialist leanings trust me hes not going down in history as anything other than a man with his ambitions and abilities seriously confused.

I hope you're right.

Otherwise:

Timewave Zero 2010

Watkins Objection

Both links could be interpreted as the die off of the vast majority of mankind as to be expected from the Tribulation.

Metallica - King Nothing

I wish I may
I wish I might
Have this wish I wish tonight
I want that star
I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how

Careful what you wish
Careful what you say
Careful what you wish
You may regret it
Careful what you wish
You just might get it

Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there's no one around

Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle's crumbled
And you're left with just a name

Where's your crown, King Nothing?
Nothing

No you're just nothing
Where's your crown, King Nothing?
No you're just nothing
Nothing

MEGADETH: The Endgame

The Leader of the New World Order, the President of the United States
Has declared anyone now residing inside the US of A
Without the RFID chip, you're just an illegal alien
An enemy combatant of America, welcome to the New World Order

This is the end of the road; this is the end of the line
This is the end of your life; this is the...

A society in a society, inside the fence life as you know it stops
They got their rules of conduct and we got ours
Be quick or be dead, you crumble up and die, the clock is
Ticking so slowly and so much can happen in an hour

[...]

Refuse the chip? Ha! Get persecute and beat by the
Tyranny of Mind control, for the mark of the beast
All rights removed, you're punished, captured, and enslaved
Believe me when I say, this is the endgame!

hmm what happend to bush being the antichrist? or clintion?, and besides the antichrist is ment to be european you idiots, im afraid america dosnt produce people evil enough for that, europe have produced stalin, hitler, and countless others, what have america made apart from bad cars?

Originally posted by mrh112
hmm what happend to bush being the antichrist? or clintion?, and besides the antichrist is ment to be european you idiots, im afraid america dosnt produce people evil enough for that, europe have produced stalin, hitler, and countless others, what have america made apart from bad cars?

america started with the serial killers "jack the ripper" included he turned out to be an american doctor visiting London

Originally posted by mrh112
hmm what happend to bush being the antichrist?

Bush linked himself to Gog of Magog in the Book of Revelation, as did the Israeli Sanhedrin:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and besides the antichrist is ment to be european you idiots,

You mean expected by those who make these Tribulation movies that are so out of line with Scripture and with the reality of American's role in the world?:

American Antichrist:
www.youtube.com...

im afraid america dosnt produce people evil enough for that, europe have produced stalin, hitler, and countless others, what have america made apart from bad cars?

America has butchered tens millions of babies and allows and promotes sodomy and other sexual immorality. Thus, it is now capable of anything, and worthy of being destroyed utterly like Sodom and Gomorrah.

And of course the leader of our nation has compared us to the last truely world civilization that God scattered to the corners of the Earth.

(Feb. 5th, 2010) Obama’s “Tower of Babel” Moment:
www.redstate.com...

Originally posted by Ian the Christian
You're doomed if you don't save 63336 in your phone:
www.youtube.com...
May 04, 2007 — Brightly clad AQA 63336 staff walking the streets of London preaching to passers by the benefits of having 63336 in their phones

A Q&A With the 'Obama' Text-Messaging Service:
www.usnews.com...

Posted 8/15/07

Out of the four candidates currently using mobile technology as part of their campaigns, Sen. Barack Obama is the first to set up a two-way text messaging service where people can text questions to the campaign. Introduced in June, the service has cellphone users type in the short code OBAMA (62262) and pose queries.

66(6, hidden, 2+2+2)

The 63336 ad:
www.youtube.com...

December 02, 2009

It's 666 (not 63336), they are lying. Book 333 of Aleister Crowley is called "The Book Of Lies"

Revelation 13:18:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six(666).

Three(3)/score(20) = "triple three"

Satanism in hip hop Encore Edition pt1 (Snoop the DOG STAR):
www.youtube.com...

Drake Illuminati Expose - Make Ya Eyes 'Light Up':
www.youtube.com...
1:48-2:05 of clip:

Obama on the text,
y’all should be afraid of
what I’m gonna do next.

Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie:

The players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Revelation 13:3:

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/86820a88b276.jpg[/atsimg]

While the sergeants played a marching tune.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ad03de231504.gif[/atsimg]

We all got up to dance,
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2cf518d17441.gif[/atsimg]

oh but we [Christians] never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field,
the marching band refused to yield [when the saints, come marching in]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b6b1d2b8849c.gif[/atsimg]

Revelation 13:7:

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them...

Do you recall what was revealed["We each have special knowledge"]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ccd867edca12.gif[/atsimg]

Revelation 13:15-17

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

the day the music [of the Christian marching band] died.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a7d79a0c73cd.jpg[/atsimg]

Brother could you spare a flag?

Anyway, here's my take on
Dean Winters in Allstate Insurance commercial

Dean Winters, "I'm a wild deer" [Beast]

Hit with car.

Revelation 13:3:
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the Beast.

Dean Winters wounded on the ground but, smiling and laughing, ready to rise again. His tie is emphasized during this by dangling toward the camera, representing Judas, who betrayed the Lord Jesus Christ, who hanged himself.

Mayhem [Antichrist] is coming.
Are you in Good [God's] Hands?

Which reminds me of:

Satanism in hip hop Encore Edition pt3 (Lil Wayne reps Antichrist)
4:25-4:50 of clip.

I know what they don't wanna to tell you
Just hope that you're Heaven sent and you're Hell proof.

Another notable ad:
New Dodge Charger TV - Mayans

January 22, 2010

If the Mayans are right, stock up.

I was sitting here reading this thread when I got this strange idea, a flash of insight if you will.

The antichrist is Iran's leader.
Think about it, and I have nothing against Iran other than they say their nuclear program is for PEACEFUL energy, promising PEACE and SECURITY but also it is obvious that it is not Iran's intended purpose for enriching uranium.

Iran has called the armies of the world...and they are answering.

Who says the antichrist has to always be the one on top?? All he really has to do is start the fire that kills billions of people.

Iran's leader has the gift of silver tongue, he is well educated and very intelligent.

He has used his promises to his people, and his lies to the world to bring forth world war 3.

And then...my flash of insight was gone...

reply to post by DutchBigBoy


well it even sais in the bible "where the whole thing came from" that he would be in the area of europe, it said nothing of america

reply to post by mrh112

You would have difficulty finding any Biblical reference clearly stating that Antichrist would be "in the area of Europe". I look in Revelation ch13, all I see is that the "Beast" is dominating the world.

ATS thread:
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Sounds ever more like the 1st and 3rd trumpets of Revelation 8:

Apocalyptic Rain

Revelation 6:6

And I heard a voice from among the four living beings say, "A loaf of wheat bread or three loaves of barley will cost a day's pay."

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