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posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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reply to post by Doodle456
 
Well yeah my social security number is going with me to my death but my social security number is not in control of world events...




posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by NWOWILLFALL
reply to post by Doodle456
 
Well yeah my social security number is going with me to my death but my social security number is not in control of world events...



I am guessing social security numbers are like tax codes or something? I'm from the UK so not a clue on that I am afraid. If its something to do with tax then the amount way pay we should dam well be in control of the events


The only thing controlling world events are the members of the G20, I am sure someone will pipe up and say are all masons or something.

[edit on 22/6/10 by Doodle456]



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 04:39 AM
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reply to post by Doodle456
 
"its something to do with tax then the amount way pay we should dam well be in control of the events"

Much needed laugh, Members of the G20/UN came from somewhere they didn't just happen upon being in the position they are in...



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by NWOWILLFALL
reply to post by Doodle456
 
Well yeah my social security number is going with me to my death but my social security number is not in control of world events...



and I will need a bit more than your word that masons as a group are in control of world events. And if you bring up the queen of england thing and claim she is the Holy See, We will find you and taunt you relentlessly.
Truth is, that we as masons are not in control of anything. If we were, that would be the greatest secret ever concocted. Think about it, nobody knows about it but a select few born again Christians, and some kids in their basements typing away on their keyboards.



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by NWOWILLFALL
reply to post by Hefficide
 
Well this is a hot button issue, they prefer secrecy, I prefer...Not...



This is the conundrum that always gets me. If Masons don't say anything, we're guilty of 'preferring secrecy'. If we say something, we're accused of not being 'high enough' to be worthy of knowing "The Real Secrets of Masonry"© which (oddly enough) are inexplicably known to fearless investiGooglers.

I can tell you that the ritual, mechanics and modes of recognition are easily found online (alongside an astonishing amount of claptrap about devils, spitting on Bibles and the like) but that I won't lead you to it myself and somehow that gets parsed as being secretive?

Oy! Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't!


Fitz



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 
What exactly does "masonic cat-herder" mean?
Please I've certainly got all day for this topic...



[edit on 22-6-2010 by NWOWILLFALL]



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by NWOWILLFALL
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 
What exactly does "masonic cat-herder" mean?
Please I've certainly got all day for this topic...


"Masonic cat-herder"? Nothing in particular. Just has an amusing ring to it while riffing a bit on what I do for a living (which I'm not going to bother repeating but is searchable within ATS if it's that meaningful for you to know).

And unfortunately, I'm off out so you may have all day by yourself for the topic.

Enjoy.

Fitz



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 07:46 AM
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Oh dear me, I'm done with mason riddles...
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posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Doodle456


I am guessing social security numbers are like tax codes or something? I'm from the UK so not a clue on that I am afraid. If its something to do with tax then the amount way pay we should dam well be in control of the events




In the United States, we have a social security system which is, in fact, sort of a socialist retirement plan. At birth, US citizens are assigned social security numbers. When they go to work, they pay social security taxes, matched by their employers, and the Social Security Administration allocates how much is paid by SS number into the general fund.

Then, when a person retires at the age of 65, or becomes disabled and cannot work, the Social Security Administration will pay the worker his or her monthly benefits out of the fund, again assigned by SS number.

However, the problem lies in the fact that one's SS number may be stolen. If someone else knows your SS number, they can get credit cards in your name, make online purchases, and generally wreak havoc with your own personal credit. Thus the need to change the sysytem where the SS number is not the primary source of identification (DL numbers would probably do much better in this regard).



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 10:17 PM
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Why hasn't anyone discussed in here the nefarious plots and hideen agenda of that blackest of cabals......the IRS....

Now that is an evil cult to be sure.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
However, the problem lies in the fact that one's SS number may be stolen. If someone else knows your SS number, they can get credit cards in your name, make online purchases, and generally wreak havoc with your own personal credit. Thus the need to change the sysytem where the SS number is not the primary source of identification (DL numbers would probably do much better in this regard).


All you say here might be right and the only way to prevent cheating at any level, except for those that operate the CPU is the worldwide chip Id system. RFID, a system where one cannot handle physical money from one to another would be a huge system if it was applicable and if there was no abuse.

Abuse is a problem since this will end on control and loss of individual liberties. On the other side there will be many on this globe, those that Rockefeller calls the useless eaters that would not be able to exist, nor will they survive since they will stay out of the system and they will perish if they do not start moving there butts. There is the pro and con in all systems and we will not change the rule of the universe.

Freemasonry is a noble cause, but, as many other clubs and societies, religions, beliefs and faith they are miss-used for personal enrichment and even, I would not doubt about it, conspiracy on a world wide scale. But, as I said in other comments, one doesn't needs to be mason to have meetings among people of same ideology, same level of wealth and set up agendas to control business and politics by undermining the system with lobbies, the way we live it actually.

Jiri Lana wrote 2 books, "Under the sign of scorpio" and "the architects of deception" and in which he described the occult activity in world politics over the ages from the Templars up to the date he wrote it and it is an interesting fact that one can not deny that almost 75% of all conspiracies against politics and political systems where managed by man that belonged to Templar, Freemasons or Rosicrucians and similar organizations since such organizations where a way to hide from the view of the common people.

This will for sure not change anything on the real cause of any of those organizations and there goal is for sure not conspiracy against what ever it could be. My uncle was a popular mason in my country, he became president of the EU Commission and he died a couple of years ago. We talked about it often and we exchanged points of view since my wisdom and his where swinging on the same frequency.

I never joined the masons for the reason that god has in my point of view another aspect and books like the bible and the qu'ran or the talmud and source of coded information only, a story full of contradictions where real wisdom is contained written in branches and codes that greek and jewish letter system allow so nicely to do.

The fact that the Bible represents for me the official link to the Vatican and christianism, the Qu'ran to the Islam and the Torah to judaism are facts that keep me away form those organizations that ask me to put the hand on it and enter a covenant. Such an act from my side would be a denial of my individual way of thinking. We, neutral Kabbalists, believe in reality only and we do not even praise god to exist since all, that can't be proven by evidence, is pending wisdom. And thus, a human will never reach perfection. Knowing all would mean being all in one and one in all and this is called all-one. And, there would then be one fact missing to complete the perfection and this is to know what the absolute is and why it acted as a point of departure for all we know and don't.

We just explain it by a point of view that can give it some material aspect, nothing more and make it understandable, a 4 letter formula that explains it's way to act and interact and to manifest it's presence and that's it. For that, no need to belong to any organization anyway.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide

Incredible! To be able to cause this much chaos with what appears to be a ten word bumper sticker!?!

Where can I buy one?

freemasoninformation.com




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