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Originally posted by southerndemolay
and for the A&ASR brethren on here i have seen 17 of the 29 degrees. how bout yall?
so say what you want, there is no conspiracy other than good men trying to better themselves while having fun and helping the community at the same time.
Originally posted by redeyedwonder
So what does it benefit a man to gain riches, if he loses his soul...
second line.
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by southerndemolay
so say what you want, there is no conspiracy other than good men trying to better themselves while having fun and helping the community at the same time.
Surely you must know that you are not in a position to make such an absolute claim.
Do you believe that all members of the Propaganda Due Lodge were aware of the group's criminal activities? Probably not.
Do you think every masonic members of 'illuminated' lodges were aware of the fact that their group had been taken over by the Illuminati for the latter's own purposes? Again, probably not.
Although not itself a conspiracy, there are still Lodges in the South which won't allow black members nor recognize Prince Hall Masonry. IMO, these Lodges can actually be detrimental to society rather than helping it.
Note: I should point out that I don't believe modern freemasonry (as an organization) is involved in any conspiracies. Well, none of the New World Order-type anyway.
[edit on 15/6/10 by ConspiracyNut23]
being a member of a lodge "in the south" as you say, we do have minorities in our grand lodge. race is not an issue.
see www.masonicinfo.com... about P2.
for a lodge in my big southern state the lodge has many brethren of different races. even my lodge has some minorities. [/quote
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by southerndemolay
being a member of a lodge "in the south" as you say, we do have minorities in our grand lodge. race is not an issue.
]
Clearly for some...
I doubt the Worshipful Masters of Metro Daylight Lodge No. 743 and Philologia Lodge No. 178 are taking in many "minorities".
www.nytimes.com...
see www.masonicinfo.com... about P2.
Originally posted by redeyedwonder
reply to post by Mikey Sly
So what does it benefit a man to gain riches, if he loses his soul...
second line.
Originally posted by Mikey Sly
As far as riches go, I don't believe it is the responsibility of any other man to help you gain riches. If you desire riches it takes your own hard work and determination. Joining a group will not provide you those virtues, they must come from within.
If you could merely give a man riches there would be no broke lottery winners.
Originally posted by southerndemolay
for a lodge in my big southern state the lodge has many brethren of different races. even my lodge has some minorities.
i need not repeat what brother ed king has so excelently wrote. i am not your mother or father and am not going to hold your hand and read to you or even take the time to write out and spoon feed you any better what has previously been said. your not a child (i hope) so i'm not going to treat you like one. i recently became an uncle and one baby is enough for me. (and i'm not calling you a baby)
Originally posted by network dude
They went rouge so to speak.
Originally posted by brilab45
Come save the world Masons. If you know anything at all that can contribute to making the world a better a place, come out and play. If you're all about pathetic secrecy and brotherhood, go eff yourselves.
There is a class of people who want to save the world, but where are they?
Dumb arse Masons know nothing other than being drinking buddies and running their communities into the ground.
Where are ther real spiritual beings that should be coming about to reveal the sacred salvation of humanity?
The Mason's know nothing but the color of their rings. Losers.
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by network dude
Thanks Network Dude. (star!)
I shouldn't even have brought up the racism, as its not really conspiratorial in any sense. In fact, they seem quite open about it, so it wouldn't fit the definition of a conspiracy.
The P2 and the Illuminati are two definite 'masonic' conspiracies. (the Morgan affair has too many gray areas to be included here, IMO)
[edit on 15/6/10 by ConspiracyNut23]
Mostly how they went from a group opposing tyranny from the church, to a group of power hungry elites trying to depopulate the world. Almost a 180.