I was just doing a little thinking about this. I've been seeing a lot of people on ATS get mad at how it looks like it's just one gigantic right
wing slide show. I've seen people complain about how all the topics are really negative, and, everyone acts like the sky is falling. I've seen
people ridicule those that are legitimately expressing their point of view, just, because it unsettles them.
I think this personally is only natural. It is true that human beings always have been complaining from the beginning of time. Before in the ancient
times people always feared that one man was going to take over the world. These people were the anti-christ. You had Alexander the Great, Napolean,
and, other people that were allegedly the anti-Christ. Then in modern times you had dictators like Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, and, all the other
Communist dictators that threatened to destroy the Western worlds like the Barbarians when they sacked Europe. Constant euphimisms is made now about
how Al-Qaida will destroy the West, and, how they will destroy the civil liberties of people living in Middle Eastern country. Everyone is a threat,
you see it everywhere.
These are real things. Perhaps the threats were overblown- but there is truth to them. Hardly anyone was skeptical about Hitler during his rise to
power- and before they knew it- in Germany Hitler took over and the Nazis gained ultimate power. Here in the United States of America we see a
different threat emerging. It can come in both the form of the public sphere and the private sphere.
We're worried about the expanding grip that the bankers are having on our financial system, and, how they'e having undue influence with governmental
affairs, with writing legislation- and how much control they have over the economy. We don't like how our economy is on debt and while it may not be
as bad as it has been in the past- where they've had something called debtors prison, we've seen bankers from Goldman Sachs in the highest seats of
power, and, we've seen central bankers all around the world meeting at financial summits- to best decide what regulation will be best to prevent a
failure of their banks in the long runs. These bankers are all friends, and, they're playing their role in an international order. The G20 meetings
we've seen in the past few years are where the biggest 20 nations meet to discuss financial matters and to discuss how to implement these
regulations- which they think would be beneficial to the bankers.
The banker problem is only one of the problems that ATS is reacting to. You'll see threads all the time where people dislike how criminal bankers
are. The federal reserve has by law a system of fractional reserve banking, where, banks are allowed to create out of nothing the amount of credit
that they want based on the excessive reserves at hand. This credit self replicates- and it isn't a sound banking system. More and more people on
ATS are getting outraged about this- and they're looking for someone to blame.
That's why you see so many people on ATS blaming Obama for everything. They think that Obama is the cause of all of our problems. Obama is only an
agent for them. Like Bush, Clinton and Reagan before him- the Presidents are nothing really but a spokesperson for the federal reserve with regards
to economic matters. Presidents may call for stimulus packages themselves, to deal with state matters, or locality issues- but it's really the fed
that is in charge behind the scenes, implementing their bills, and, doing what it is they want.
To change the subject- there is the matter of our civil liberties. On this subject- Obama continued Bush's failed policies in eroding our civil
liberties. Many people say that Obama is taking away our rights. They would be correct. Obama has called for preventive detention- where the
government would apprehend someone before they committed a crime- without the right to due trials
). The Supreme Court under Obama has weakened your Miranda rights by saying that you have to
speak first before you assert them (which conflates with the view that you hvae the right to remain silent). I believe at one point the Obama
administration called in the national guard on a tea party protest (www.aipnews.com...
department of homeland security has issued memoes declaring Ron Paul supporters, tea party people, and protesters as potential terror threats
). It may be different from the Bush regime when Bush's attorney general
declared that we had no secure right to habeus corpous (www.sfgate.com...
/c/a/2007/01/24/MNGDONO11O1.DTL) despite the fact
that the constitution says that we have it unless public safety requires its suspension (in the case of rebellion or insurrection).
People are also mad about the health care bill. The health care reform bill acts as a two pronged attacked by essentially giving a bailout to health
care companies by forcing people to have health care with a mandate. But it also is a direct attack on our system of capitalism. It lets the
government interfere with the internal practices of health care companies itself- by letting the government have control over the price of health care
), and it would also regulate what benefit ones receives, and, it deals with
employee benefits and regulates those as well
). The people who are happy
with this don't mind the role of government being like Santa Clause, but, most people who care about capitalism, and competition- are unhappy about
I think I've covered most of the topics. I believe the rest of the negativity on ATS is coming from how mad they are at Obama with how he deals with
the international community. I feel that their complaints on Obama's foreign policy may or may not be justified because personally, I think that
Obama's doing a fine job with regards to diplomacy with other countries. He's doing a good job for keeping the emperor all the while blacking out
how his administration has expanded the war on terror and covert wars to 75 different countries around the world
A lot of ATS people- I feel are just mad at these things. They're mad at Israel's government for what they did to the Flotilla incident and because
they're still mad about the USS liberty. I think that ATS is just a part of the larger segment of society looking at the problems and trying to find
answers. They will blame Obama for these problems because he is the spokesman of the United States, and, not look for other problems because they may
tend to think that Obama is the cause of all of these problems.
There are a lot of people mat at the government and they're not just mad at Obama. It is true that Obama is to cause for some of these problems.
The President isn't just a puppet as many people claim he is. Sure, he may be a puppet, and, he may do things for Goldman Sachs, and all of these
companies he has campaign ties with. But, he has initiatives himself- he deserves some of this blame too. So not all of ATS hate on Obama is
unjustified- while- you can't go out and blame Obama for everything, it is helpful to understand why people hate him. It's also helpful to have a
historical perspective about people's mistrust of the government.
I guess I made this thread because I have been thinking for a while that ATS just represents a larger part of society, and, I think it's helpful to
put things in perspective as to why people are upset- and that ATS isn't really just some soap-box that people think it is, and, that people are
usually genuinely upset about something.
What are your thoughts? Would you agree/disagree? These are my sentiments.
[edit on 14-6-2010 by Frankidealist35]