Armed forces with M-16s down the street from me.

reply to post by JohnySeagull


I wana know where this is at. Cross street, name of ball field, something. What is the name of the nearest police station Il call them and ask if they know what's going. I wana get to the bottom of this. I understand your situation. And I thank you much for the info pics and vid and I hope you keep us up to date with this. Very interesting. Id love it if you would talk to a guard `I wana see if they have foreign accents. That would make this even more interesting

It's probably just some type of Field Exercise. Where they help escort convoys to fuel up set up a toc center stay a few days or more. Probably nothing to worry about. They probably had to keep their rifles at the low ready. And sometimes soldiers can get carried away playing around if there's no NCO's around at the time. So I am sure it was all just in good fun mate.

Originally posted by Ghrwilson
reply to post by JohnySeagull

 

I wana know where this is at. Cross street, name of ball field, something. What is the name of the nearest police station Il call them and ask if they know what's going. I wana get to the bottom of this. I understand your situation. And I thank you much for the info pics and vid and I hope you keep us up to date with this. Very interesting. Id love it if you would talk to a guard `I wana see if they have foreign accents. That would make this even more interesting

Excellent idea!

Ask a cop. Ask a city planner or councilman or commissioner. Ask the guards themselves. Call the city parks department and ask to reserve the ball park for a party this fall.

Surely somebod knows what is up at this location?

With all this skepticism directed at the O.P. you would think there just might be another member or 2 in your most populous state who could confirm or deny the O.P.'s account of the situation. The thing that really gets me about this post and mabe its because i'm Canadian is that if there are a bunch of guys with m-16's guarding a bunch of oil tankers and tents behind a barb wire fence.If this were happening Toronto there'd better be a really big sign explaining what the heck they think they're doing standing in the middle of the street with m-16's!!!...after writing this i really hope the O.P. is full of crap because if this kind of thing is really going on and nobody knows the reasons than your country is definitely heading down the dark scary path that only "crazy" people talk about

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW
reply to post by GovtFlu

 

This has been all week long. I just got the pics and video today.

I have no clue what this is and I'm not going to speculate.

All I know is that I've never seen it here, and I've never seen troops in plain site with M-16s around their shoulders with their hands on the grip walking around.

The amount of crude they need to collect from the gulf is staggering to say the least!!

Obama is likely backing up BP with transport capability to move the crude.


They are worried about acts of terrorism from Muslims who might see this as an opportunity, and acts of terrorism from Eco-nuts who might go over the edge (sad, but true, they have a huge issue and I guess fear is hugging them awfully tight).

I would not worry too much about the guns, unless something looks or happens which is really odd. They are likely as worried about freaking the locals as the locals are already freaked about what is happening.

Also ... any "cells" which might see this (and the Gov know quite a bit about where they may be) ... will get the no mess with message I suspect ... and that may be part of the dressed out-ness you are seeing.

reply to post by 5 oClock


You wouldn't be talking about Springfield on 95?

Originally posted by Gold_Bug

Originally posted by Dalamara

Originally posted by Gold_Bug
I'm in the mood for some Wild Speculation Time.

Let's assume the absolute worst case scenario imaginable. Per the Georgia guidestones, TPTB are starting their multi-step global depopulation plan.

The airborne VOCs (volatile organic compounds) hitting shore from the oil are wildly sporadic. One day they have a very high dangerous concentration, but the next day they don’t. Some people are getting sick, but what TPTB need is something to scare the hell out of everyone and provide justification for massive regional marshal law/ evacuations.

Those tankers could be loaded with liquid VOCs that will be driven around and released within populated areas in the dead of night. The ‘real’ clue in those pictures is the fact that all the tankers have been painted black. Hint: Regular everyday oil tankers are never painted black, because the sun would bake the oil during the day causing excessive vaporization and pressure of a fully loaded tanker. But, if you wanted to ‘gas’ a few hundred thousand people in the dead of night, filling black tankers 70% full of VOCs, that can be blamed on the oil spill, just might do the trick!

Heck for that matter, why not just ‘gas’ all the major cities within 100 miles of the coast. Kill millions of people all at once. Everyone here on ATS might want to find out if there are more of these black oil tankers littered around the gulf.

What does BS like this accomplish except destroy credibility for yourself and this site.

Disinfo Tactic: Attack the messenger if you can not attack the message!

Fact is that using one's imagination to speculate one facts ("clues") that seem out of place; is one of the best known methods to solve mysterious crimes.

Such speculations (when presented as such) do not destroy credibility whatsoever, but in fact enhance it.

The fact that you attacked my post so quickly using proven disinfo tactics makes me suspect your motives for being on this site.

[edit on 15-6-2010 by Gold_Bug]

Well I think you're actually a pawn of the new world order sent here to spread disinformation by speculating wildly to take away legitimacy from threads.

I think you are preparing people for actual biological attacks using fuel tankers in the United States.

I can make up complete BS with no substance too.

And if we're going to go into tactics here, a tactic used by those who can't refute what a poster says is to selectively quote a small part of the post because they simply can't respond to the rest with a well thought out argument.

Disinfo agent? Replied so quickly?

Okay, how about I clicked the thread, you were the last reply, it was a ridiculous reply, so I replied to you.

It's not all a conspiracy you know.

Originally posted by Serendipity7

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW
reply to post by GovtFlu

 

This has been all week long. I just got the pics and video today.

I have no clue what this is and I'm not going to speculate.

All I know is that I've never seen it here, and I've never seen troops in plain site with M-16s around their shoulders with their hands on the grip walking around.

The amount of crude they need to collect from the gulf is staggering to say the least!!

Obama is likely backing up BP with transport capability to move the crude.


They are worried about acts of terrorism from Muslims who might see this as an opportunity, and acts of terrorism from Eco-nuts who might go over the edge (sad, but true, they have a huge issue and I guess fear is hugging them awfully tight).

I would not worry too much about the guns, unless something looks or happens which is really odd. They are likely as worried about freaking the locals as the locals are already freaked about what is happening.

Also ... any "cells" which might see this (and the Gov know quite a bit about where they may be) ... will get the no mess with message I suspect ... and that may be part of the dressed out-ness you are seeing.

WHY ARE THE TANKS PAINTED B-L-A-C-K!

When is the last time you saw a BLACK tanker truck pull into the gas station? Everyone I have ever seen, is shinny silver so that solar radiation is reflected, not absorbed.

THIS IS THE REALLY BIG CLUE that something 'strange', and possibly nefarious, is going on in the gulf.

[edit on 15-6-2010 by Gold_Bug]

Originally posted by njl51
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

 

Thanks, they must be guarding against terrorist attack..maybe there was
a heads up warning.
Don't bother trying to get pics. I for one believe you..why shouldn't I?

Most of us know that the CIA is behind all terror activities. This has gone on since the inception of the CIA just for that purpose, covert activities to create conflict so the government has something to do and a way to pass worthless, useless "laws" which can not and do not apply to sovereign AMERICANS, that is, those who are NOT 14th Amendment "U.S. citizens" but actual flesh and blood, natural born on American soil, living souls.

Time we all woke up to that fact.

Wonder what is going on at Fort Hood too and nothern Cally?

I really would not panic, yet. Yes- I do not like seeing the USMilitary troops, doing "routine" drills, in our streets, either. Yes- I think it is part of a plan, to "desensitize" us, when we start seeing them EVERYWHERE.
I have a REAL PROBLEM, if those guards, had THEIR FINGERS ON THE TRIGGERS! You don't even do that in battle, EXCEPT WHEN YOU ARE SHOOTING! EVERY trained shooter knows- trigger finger=flat against side of gun. It doesn't take a fraction of a second, to put it on the trigger, from that position- and is umpteen-times safer.
If I lived there, I would do some "inconspiquous" sleuthing. Also, use a GOOD camera, to get some usable pix.
Those tankers, being painted BLACK, do offer some food for thought. Tar, is usually transported, in black tankers, to help keep it hot & liquid. Light volitiles (gasoline), are usually in SHINY tanks, to reflect as much infra-red as possible.
It does look like some military base. I saw what appeared to be guard towers. If so, then all bets are off- we are at war, with half the world.

Originally posted by SSPI07
Mystery solved! This area is known as the Defense Fuel Support Point (DFSP). According to the information posted on Wikimapia, the place was founded in 1943 and stores diesel and jet fuels in 41 tanks. Only 7 tanks are above ground while the rest are underground. Below is a link to the Wikimapia page with more info.

Defense Fuel Support Point

Confirmed, the location in the link is the same as the video. The lot is empty at the time of this photo.

From
portal.navfac.navy.mil...

Since 1943, the Defense Fuel Support Point (DFSP) has been used to receive, store and distribute diesel and jet fuels for military use in California, Arizona and Nevada. In 1980, the Defense Fuel Supply Center branch of the Defense Logistics Agency assumed operations from the Navy. The DFSP currently utilizes 41 tanks to store various fuels and waste oil. Thirty-four of these storage tanks are underground and seven are aboveground. All the tanks and their piping are regularly inspected. The DFSP is located west of Long Beach and covers 331 acres.

Also according to this they are inviting Energy companies to visit the site.
www.fbo.gov...

The Defense Energy Support Center (DESC) is seeking an energy service company (ESCO) to provide energy savings performance work at the Defense Fuel Support Point San Pedro, CA.

The Department of Energy (DOE) Super ESPC contract, DE-AM36-09G0290 will be the contracting vehicle used to implement a photovoltaic array and energy and water conservation opportunities including other renewable systems and technologies at Defense Fuel Support Point San Pedro.

A site visit will be offered on 8 June 2010 at 9:00 am. In order to attend the site visit, interested ESCOs must contact one of the POCs listed within this notice no later than Thursday, June 3, 2010 by 3:00 pm local Fort Belvoir, VA time.

For questions, please contact:

Cindy Ralph, [email protected] 703-767-8566

Richard O’Neil, [email protected] 703-767-5167

Andrea Kincaid, [email protected] 703-767-8669

[edit on 6/15/10 by Cyprex]

S & F for the OP. I'm a native of So Cal (yes! There ARE a few of us..LOL) and any military activity in the Los Angeles area is suspect on its face.

It's probably just , as some have said, the NG on their 2 week vacation from reality, but ya just never know in this day and age.

As for the "helping BP move the crude" theory... For those of you who are geographically challenged, Southern California is a LONG way from the Gulf of Mexico. That thought is just plain silly!

Again, great job OP. Keep up the good work!

Blue Flag

The Blue Flag exercise is conducted quarterly by the Air Force Battlestaff Training School, a subordinate unit of the Air Force Air Warfare Center. The exercise trains combat leaders and supporting battle staff in command and control procedures for specific theaters of operation, attempting to replicate theater conditions and procedures a realistically as possible. The first Blue Flag exercise was conducted in 1976. During that time, Blue Flag has evolved from scenarios that involved live flying operations into the computerized wargame simulation it is today using software
that allows both offensive and defensive activities to be executed simultaneously.

The war games of yesteryear have evolved from grease pencils and laminated boards to personalized computer modeling and simulation exercises. The benefactors: more than 75,000 people from all military branches and 17 nations who have participated since the first Blue Flag exercise held at Shaw Air Force Base, S.C., and Eglin AFB, Fla., in December 1976.

Valuable lessons learned from the Vietnam War prompted the birth of Blue Flag exercises 25 years ago. The Vietnam War showed that surviving the first 10 combat missions dramatically improved an aviator's chances of surviving the rest of the combat tour. This led to the establishment of the Red Flag program at Nellis AFB, Nev. The operational-level warfighters, the battle staffs, needed a similar combat experience, so Blue Flag was born.

The exercise program is designed to train numbered Air Force commanders and battle-staff personnel in the operational art of war. Blue Flag covers the entire theater of operations and teaches strategy, planning procedures, targeting and processes that put strategic airpower into battle. It's a train-as-you-will-fight program.

The 505th Exercise Control Squadron, part of the Air Force Command and Control Training and Innovation Group, conducts up to four Blue Flag exercises a year. The 505th ECS and the AFC2TIG are based at Hurlburt Field, Fla., and are part of the Aerospace Command and Control and Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Center at Langley AFB, Va.

The commander of the numbered Air Force playing in a particular Blue Flag provides the AFC2TIG with a list of objectives he would like to accomplish in the exercise. The AFC2TIG and the 505th ECS officials develop scenarios that simulate the forces, plans, procedures, intelligence capabilities and threats for the planned theater of operations. Scenarios can range from humanitarian-relief operations to evacuation operations to small-scale conflicts and even major theater wars, Kirkpatrick said.

Each Blue Flag begins the same way -- three days of academic training, followed by a four-day scenario using realistic friendly and enemy military forces and contingency plans. The 505th ECS professional control force and the AFC2TIG distribute the scenarios to the NAF air operations center. The people receiving the exercise inputs react to them as if they were getting orders from higher headquarters and executing warfare through wings and squadrons.

The exercise ties organizations together through sophisticated communications links. Individual aircrews in simulators across the country "fly" their missions alongside computer-generated aircraft in a virtual battle space and interact with the air operations center. Blue Flag provides a building-block approach to prepare the air operations center leadership and staff to plan and execute combat air and space operations worldwide. Blue Flag participants link together to practice and hone their war-fighting skills via computers.

Hurlburt Field became more crowded as more than 700 people converge on the base to "practice war" in Blue Flag 95-4, Sept. 13-20, 1995. Those participating in Blue Flag 95-4 come from various Air Force bases. Army posts, Navy and Marine Corps bases, and Coast Guard facilities. More than 15 general and flag officers will also attend, including a first-t

Originally posted by Gold_Bug
I'm in the mood for some Wild Speculation Time.

Let's assume the absolute worst case scenario imaginable. Per the Georgia guidestones, TPTB are starting their multi-step global depopulation plan.

Or ...

In order to support any large movements the infrastructure has to be set in place first. Mapping and marking of routes and fuel supply chains must be laid out first.
Notice any new unconspicuous markers along any roads or intersections?

The following link is the Defense Fuel Support Point in san Pedro.
The do the logistics for various fuel support for theMilitary.


wikimapia.org...

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by airspoon

 

It was baby blue, and it looked like the UN color to me, but it had no symbols or letters in it at all. I thought the UN flag had either the UN block letters, or some emblem. It was like a Royal or Bright Blue though.

The official UN flag does have a symbol on it but just the color signifies UN as well. If it was the same shade of blue, it was "UN". That vehicle should not have had a baby blue flag unless it was designated UN. My guess is that the vehicle was probably being transported for the UN, that or some private was doing something he wasn't supposed to. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

--airspoon

[edit on 15-6-2010 by airspoon]

reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

Is the refinery you mention a BP refinery or one of their known
listed subsidiaries ???

I am guessing there may have been some kind of threat against
the refinery by earth first or ELF, etc etc.

i live in Toledo Ohio, and the other day coming home from work i saw a convoy of the same camo-military style, all together their were about 20 -30 fuel trucks. I did manage to make a quick cell-vid if anyone wants to see it i can manage to upload with a link i believe.[newb]

reply to post by Subjective Truth



It wasn't a couple of tents. There are more in the back, I didn't capture them all. There are more trucks too.

About 20-30 dark green camo colored trucks, and about 20 large tents. And I went by there again today, and saw about 13 guys with M-16s around their shoulders walking around in the open.

Originally posted by Bulgator
The following link is the Defense Fuel Support Point in san Pedro.
The do the logistics for various fuel support for theMilitary.


wikimapia.org...

Yep, but living here over a year I have NEVER seen troops stay here, appear here, camp here, NONE.

Usually it's commercial trucks and one or two other military vehicles, if any.

I'm not claiming anything 'conspiratorial'. Was just documenting unusual behavior right after the Gulf incident.