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Originally posted by Toddlez
Hey OP, sorry if this question has been asked before but, here goes.
If there was nothing before God, how did he develop character, morals and ethics in isolation?
Originally posted by igotttaknow
my question is a bible realted one but he was meant to have told man through diferent means what he wanted to say (he must have terrible penmanship)
well my question is this:
why in genesis 1 26 does it say this "And God said, Let usmake man in ourimage, after ourlikeness:" it goes on to say more but i want to know how can there be one god if this is what people were told to write.
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by KingJames1337
Are you asking how can God stand by and watch as people slaughter children and animals? It wouldn't make much sense if God was a vengeful God, I mean what purpose would there be in creating a universe just to get angry and pissed off at your creation. Since the old testament talks about God as being wrathful it is not a proper illustration of a God that is always Good and controls his universe through Goodness. It just doesn't make sense that God would need to punish his subjects in this manner when the intellect is a far greater tool of enlightenment. The wars are started mostly by the evil and although God does not want people to slaughter the innocent he does give people the spirit to fight this evil. Earth is not heaven, so we can't expect heaven to exist on earth, we must work hard to bring that virtue to the world.
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by DragonriderGal
Can God create a stone so heavy he can not lift it? Yes, and that stone is free will. God created free will but he can not destroy it, otherwise it would not be free.
Originally posted by igotttaknow
thank you for the reply your thoughts on god are differnt to all the people i know who believe in him you seem to have found happiness most i know are one day a week believers.
I have another of question:
God gave us free will, but he is omnipotent and he has a plan for all of us wouldnt that mean he knows and has things organised before they happen how can that be free will? and why would he let people he knows are going to be 'evil' come into existance they are just ruining this plan.
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by DragonriderGal
Can God create a stone so heavy he can not lift it? Yes, and that stone is free will. God created free will but he can not destroy it, otherwise it would not be free.
Nah, he didn't create anything. Not even free will. Because God, as you portray him, doesn't exist. Sorry.
Originally posted by SpreadLoveNotHate
I feel like I am currently right in the middle of what you might call realizing your true self, slowly letting go of the mental conditioning of the society that I grew up in in an attempt to free my mind. There are times that I have felt like I was enlightened, had freed myself of the duality of this reality, but then something always seems to drag me back down. It honestly feels like a tug of war between my spirit and mind, wanting to let go of this materialistic world cause it causes so much pain, but its so hard, because when it comes down to it, its all I've ever known. (Not that I fear death, it just seems like reality is trying to force materialism down my throat, its hard where I live to find anyone interested in spirituality that isn't religious.) So I guess my question is, is it always this much of a mental struggle to overcome your mind, so your spirit can live through you?