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Originally posted by spy66
Originally posted by filosophia
Any question such as why does God not save amputee crack babies, is there anything God can not do, etc I can answer, or
I will answer any question on the Eternal Self, the true goal of yoga.
Questions:
1. Is the Lord God and God the same God?
2. Why did Lord God prefer Ables offering before Cains?
3. Why would Lord God demand sacrifice in blood two times a day to forgive us from our sins, but at the same time demand that all sinners must be destroyed?
4. Why would God make the 10 commandments, And at the same time demand us to kill everyone who worships other Gods then Lord God himself?
5. Does thou shalt not kill commandment come with a exception?
[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]
Originally posted by Dr Slim
reply to post by filosophia
i never asked did god have a cause, and there is no evidence to suggest that the universe has been around forever, from a religious or a scientific point of view, "something happened" to create "this", which contradicts your answer anyway. you said that "god created itself" but you also say that "god/matter has always existed", you cover every possible angle, that doesn't answer my question at all.
Originally posted by juveous
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by juveous
reply to post by filosophia
How much would you agree/disagree?
There seems to be a basic misunderstanding that realizing God means that you become God. This is simply not true. Realizing God means eternally surrendering to God, and becoming nothing at all. God is not a thing one becomes, but a living consciousness one surrenders oneself to. That principle is utter unity, oneness, non-separateness, total equality. Thus, the realizer lives as the equal of all, not as someone above and beyond everyone else. This is how Ramana lived, how Papaji, Nisargadatta, Buddha, Jesus, and others like them lived
source
The website has actually influenced how I see things.
P.S this thread does more justice than your "enlightenment" thread, at least for interpretations.
The only way you can become God is to realize that that is your true nature. It is impossible for a finite mortal to become an eternal immortal. Only through the 'grace of God,' that grace is not prayer or service but through philosophy and meditation. The mind becomes like unto God, a unity, a oneness, and that oneness is the goal of meditation. This state of samadhi is what the Buddhas dwell in.
This really didn't reflect on what I quoted. I thought you were going to pose its becoming in relation or non-relation to surrender, or as God being a living consciousness one surrenders to.
Originally posted by sphinx551
1. Does religion really matter or is love the "true religion"?
2. Who are the Council of Elders?
3. Is God a human or an alien entity?
Originally posted by NorEaster
Why do you allow the largest religion on Earth to be based on the notion that you screwed up when you created humanity, and did such a terrible job of it that you had to become human yourself so that we could beat you within an inch of your life before nailing you to a chunk of wood and hanging you up until you died?
Then, why do you let humans take your corpse - still nailed to that chunk of wood - parade around with it and allow them to beat the snot out of the rest of the world with it as if it were a club?
Don't you have any self respect or is it that you're enjoying all this ugly insanity?
[edit on 17-6-2010 by NorEaster]
Originally posted by Dr Slim
if god is the true nature of things, where did the true nature of things come from?
Originally posted by TheUltimateEnd
Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan
en.wikipedia.org...
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Read first please then post.
His second coming has a birth name, what is his second coming birthname? And wasn't directed to you -_-
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by NorEaster
Why do you allow the largest religion on Earth to be based on the notion that you screwed up when you created humanity, and did such a terrible job of it that you had to become human yourself so that we could beat you within an inch of your life before nailing you to a chunk of wood and hanging you up until you died?
Then, why do you let humans take your corpse - still nailed to that chunk of wood - parade around with it and allow them to beat the snot out of the rest of the world with it as if it were a club?
Don't you have any self respect or is it that you're enjoying all this ugly insanity?
[edit on 17-6-2010 by NorEaster]
Your confusion lies in the fact that the largest religion on earth does not necessarily mean it is the best.
Did they nail the Buddha to the cross?
Or How about Krishna, he was too busy annihilating the evil demons to get nailed to the cross.
Either way, religion is a metaphor. Jesus died for your sins, to forgive the world for killing a truth seeker. Don't blame God blame man.
Originally posted by juveous
reply to post by filosophia
Yes I get it, but I think there is just some confusion on the definition of "becoming" - as you say it being your true nature. And the article talking about not becoming something, but basically surrendering to the "nature of things"
As a human, you are no doubt part of the whole. Your presence is how the whole can experience itself as one. Being God, would be realizing that this is true and becoming one as equal and necessary for the whole to be.
I think the article is talking about an "external" God is why. With special powers pulling the strings.
[edit on 17-6-2010 by juveous]
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by NorEaster
Why do you allow the largest religion on Earth to be based on the notion that you screwed up when you created humanity, and did such a terrible job of it that you had to become human yourself so that we could beat you within an inch of your life before nailing you to a chunk of wood and hanging you up until you died?
Then, why do you let humans take your corpse - still nailed to that chunk of wood - parade around with it and allow them to beat the snot out of the rest of the world with it as if it were a club?
Don't you have any self respect or is it that you're enjoying all this ugly insanity?
[edit on 17-6-2010 by NorEaster]
Your confusion lies in the fact that the largest religion on earth does not necessarily mean it is the best.
Did they nail the Buddha to the cross?
Or How about Krishna, he was too busy annihilating the evil demons to get nailed to the cross.
Either way, religion is a metaphor. Jesus died for your sins, to forgive the world for killing a truth seeker. Don't blame God blame man.
The question was "Why do you allow that religion to be so prominent?" I have no confusion. Please reread the question and eliminate your own confusion as to what I was asking.
Thanks.
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by NorEaster
Why do you allow the largest religion on Earth to be based on the notion that you screwed up when you created humanity, and did such a terrible job of it that you had to become human yourself so that we could beat you within an inch of your life before nailing you to a chunk of wood and hanging you up until you died?
Then, why do you let humans take your corpse - still nailed to that chunk of wood - parade around with it and allow them to beat the snot out of the rest of the world with it as if it were a club?
Don't you have any self respect or is it that you're enjoying all this ugly insanity?
[edit on 17-6-2010 by NorEaster]
Your confusion lies in the fact that the largest religion on earth does not necessarily mean it is the best.
Did they nail the Buddha to the cross?
Or How about Krishna, he was too busy annihilating the evil demons to get nailed to the cross.
Either way, religion is a metaphor. Jesus died for your sins, to forgive the world for killing a truth seeker. Don't blame God blame man.
The question was "Why do you allow that religion to be so prominent?" I have no confusion. Please reread the question and eliminate your own confusion as to what I was asking.
Thanks.
Look since you are addressing me as Jesus, a first for me, I'll just have to say that humans will always be confused as to what is truly holy. The entire history of religion is about power and control over people's lives. It is up to the individual to break free of this control. Any god-figure that attempts to do this for you is just another ego-leader that could point you in the wrong direction. Never value anything more than your own self. And just for the record, my body is immaterial, so all they are beating is my body, not me.
Originally posted by navione
Who is god ? Is the only way to know him thru worship and prayer ? Is organized religion nessasary to form a relationship with god? If you know something is wrong before you do it but do it anyway will god forgive you?
Originally posted by sphinx551
1. Does religion really matter or is love the "true religion"?
2. Who are the Council of Elders?
3. Is God a human or an alien entity?
Originally posted by thegreatestone
theres no point looking for a god who isnt present, we should look to who we trust most
Originally posted by filosophia
1. Yes, different titles for the same thing. The only God that matters is the Supreme God. Any type of secondary god is not the Absolute highest. Hence the term 'Lord.'
BULLsh.t here, the name lord, in hebrew ADONAI was used and still is to replace the unpronounceable name of god, the name that ho you should never spell, never pronounce, never make a picture and never make a graven image of. The letters of the Tetragrammaton, YHWH are just a formula that explains all functionality in universe for manifestation of matter and the behavior of all that matter creates.
God as such who created the different layers, the infinite negative matrix and the positive finite matrix that reflects on it. He is "nothing" the absolute and from nothing a being of the material world, the world of Assiah, will never be able to make any description since nothing will never exist for him.
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2. I said that I do not really go into bible questions. The whole cain and able story is a paradox. Cain kills able, and God protects him. Symbolically this might mean that God keeps cain alive so cain can live in torment, or it just means that God likes killers.
CRAP again, the story of Cain and Abel is just a game of circumstances happening in interconnection of your brain (Cain) and your sexual libido that is exhausted. Habel is the hebrew word in the scriptures and that word lean worthless, empty, exhausted. So, when Cain enters in conflict with Habel, the hammer falls and we know that, all of us that after the sexual act, yes, the hammer falls and kills Cain, the sexual libido.
Again here your way of explaining things are based on ignorance, on just what the text you read inspire you. If once you know hebrew and read what the scriptures say you will find out that Adam and Eve are not 2 persons or Humans but just depict or symbolize a penis and a vagina.
Get into the gnosis first and learn what the teachings relate to.
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3. backwards pagan ritual, nothing more. You can tell this is false and not God's word because it makes no rational sense.
his is false because sins are states of mind that you create yourself due to the fact that you know or realize the disaster once you made wrong or bad. The sacrifice it needs is to repair what you destroyed and made wrong, doesn't matter how much and how often and this makes you sweat blood. But this again is a way to symbolize a sate of being, nothing more.
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4. again, this refers to biblical nonsense, not the philosophy/theology of God. God ultimately wants us to be like him, God-like.
You are wrong again, the 10 commandments have been written to explain what the 10 sephirot of Kabbalah relate to and thus they are a demand for correct behavior to the human. The Kabbalah teaches that you are God, you are part of him and as such you are a mirrored, time limited image of him in relation with your temple, the body. So, when he says, you have only one god and thou shall not have any god other then yourself and not knee or bow to stones or painted images. The one to pray to is yourself, the church to go is your body, not a building elsewhere.
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5. Rationally speaking, animals must kill or be killed, so humans are part animal, so the exception holds. But, humans are also part divine, so they should never sink to enjoying murder for sport.
Matter doesn't cares what you do or believe in. It made you to manage it's resources by individual intelligence and to use them to transform to energy. Human's DNA is unique and opposed in rotation to all other beings, so human is a unique godly being.