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Long Pig : Can You Pass the Ketchup and Breasts Please...

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posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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Meat Market

Will that be sholder or rump roast?

Rump please! Any specials?

We do have a special on ribs today, great for the BBQ.
Shall I get some for you?

Hmmm not today, thanks anyway.

Don't forget Thursday we are having a buy two get one free
on hands and feet. Will that be all then?

Yes, thank you!

Now as for myself, its hard to say. Would I or wouldn't I, hmmmmm.
It really would depend upon time and place and or if continueing
on would be a viable option. Family member or friend, no, everyone
else is fair game if it came to that point.




posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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reply to post by silo13
 


That is Sick! And worse, I have heard of that many times. Apparently it is quite common to eat the placenta? It has health benefits, and religious and traditional acceptance.

Still Sick though. I think I'd rather eat the baby than the placenta. Babies look delicious!



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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I would have two senarios, in the face of certain death, where a human is already dead (plane crash) I wonder if I could. The other is to murder someone for the sole purpose of eating them or waiting till you are so weak that they take advantage and attempt to kill you for dinner?



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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Please forgive me for not reading the entire thread.

Has anyone mentioned the movie 'The Road'?
Check it out:




Cannibalism in survival situation covered.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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My answer is a question:



Once the other humans are eaten, then what? Starvation will occur anyway.

Better to work together with other humans to find and secure a food supply that will last.

More humans = better chances of survival. One human won't last long on his or her own, especially after their last companion is eaten. Where will the NEXT meals after that come from?

Also, the mental disturbance would make survival pretty rough afterward, in any case.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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truthfully eating is a remnant of the past that remains today; supposedly eating replenishes the constitution of a person. the food i eat is destroyed and has nothing to do with my constitution; the actions i go through during this destruction maintains my existence. if there was not the act of doing something to maintain the constitution of my existence i suppose there would be other acts to fill the remaining void that food has filled. cannibalism when practiced had little to do with nutrition as it is viewed today; when it was practiced it was healthy to eat a person because a persons existence does not truly end at death.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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I feel sorry for all the little children that wil be eaten by there mothers.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 10:00 AM
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Inspiration for Melville's classic Moby Dick.

The whalers of Nantucket .... .


After the whale struck, Captain George Pollard Jr. and his crew took to their whaleboats. But he was no Ahab. Instead of riding wind and current to the Society Islands, he opted for a harder journey back to South America--because of fears they might run into cannibals.

And they did, in their midst.

Hit by storms, low on food and water, even attacked by a killer whale, the men began dying and the survivors ate the remains. Pollard's 18-year-old cousin was sacrificed after a drawing of lots.

When they were rescued, after three months adrift, only eight of the Essex's 21 men were alive.

Read more: www.time.com...



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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"... Stripped him naked and tied his hands and feet and gagged him with a piece of dirty rag I picked out of the dump. Next day about 2 p.m., I took tools, a good, heavy cat-of-nine-tails. I whipped his bare behind till the blood ran from his legs. I cut off his ears, nose, slit his mouth from ear to ear. Gouged out his eyes. He was dead then. I stuck the knife in his belly and held my mouth to his body and drank his blood.

"Then I cut him up. I came home with my meat. I had the front of his body I liked the best. His monkey and pee wees and a nice little fat behind to roast in the oven and eat. I made stew out of his ears, nose, pieces of face and belly. I put onions, carrots, turnips, celery, salt and pepper. It was good.

"Then I split the cheeks of his behind open, cut off his monkey and pee wees and washed them first. I put strips of bacon on each cheek of his behind and put them in the oven. Then I picked four onions and when the meat had roasted about 1/4 hour, I poured about a pint of water over it for gravy and put in the onions. At frequent intervals I basted his behind with a wooden spoon. In about two hours, it was nice and brown, cooked through. I never ate any roast turkey that tasted half as good as his sweet fat little behind did. I ate every bit of the meat in about four days. His little monkey was as sweet as a nut, but his pee wees I could not chew. Threw them in the toilet."

Famous words of Albert Fish.




posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by jessieg

In a survival situation, I'd resort to eating just about anything. But unless I was out of my mind, in an altered mental state, I would not eat human flesh.


Okay, that's fair enough, not everyone can or would do this in the event of survival.

I consider everyone's opinion valid and worth sharing on this topic.

Considering I do not know you I will not resort to making a joke about "serving you up".

I have a wicked, morbid, and gallows sense of humor sometimes, not everyone gets it.

reply to post by SLAYER69
 


Yeah, I was going to use that video, from YouTube, but it had too much foul language.

We have to follow the terms and conditions of ATS.

Last night in chat, someone remarked how we are not allowed to discuss personal usage, for "alternative substances", but discussions about cannibalism are.

I was laughing pretty hard and suggested that a discussion about cannibalism would not lead to imbibing upon human flesh, nor will anyone likely speak of "personal usage".

Unless it's a crude sexual joke.


And no problem about the video.


reply to post by univac500
 


Now that's funny as Hell.

In a gruesome world sometimes a little levity goes a long way.

Especially when speaking of atrocious actions.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 02:22 PM
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Well, I do not know about the eroticism, because one would think the mental processes of coping, comforting, sexuality, and just any other sort of interaction might change.

After having consumed human flesh, I would have to guess, one might change the way they think completely, and everything in the world would take on a different connotation.

In the case of Jeffrey Dahmer it was not about survival but his mental stability.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Jeffrey Dahmer

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer and sex offender.

Dahmer murdered 17 men and boys – many of whom were of African or Asian descent – between 1978 and 1991, with the majority of the murders occurring between 1987 and 1991.

His murders were particularly gruesome, involving rape, torture, dismemberment, necrophilia and cannibalism.

On November 28, 1994, he was beaten to death by an inmate at the Columbia Correctional Institution, where he had been incarcerated.


Jeffrey Dahmer Interview - Extended Footage


Personally, I believe Dahmer was a sick and twisted individual, not worth living.


Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 

I'm partial to certain human body parts. Munch on 'em all the time.


I have to assume you're being crude with a sexual joke of some sort.

That's fine, I do not mind the jokes, just do not be explicit.

Because if you do the Moderators will edit it out.


Originally posted by alienreality
I would definitely die before I would ever touch human as food..
I have been really hungry before and went 6 days without food and during that time I remembered movies that showed people resorting to that, but it still made me laugh, and I knew I could never do that..it feels wrong and repugnant and just based on that alone would stop me personally...


Okay, but is it a religious, cultural, or societal taboo that makes you make that choice?

Or is because of attachment to humanity?

I have gone a week before to fast.

Watching movies, reading on it, and using my brain I have never laughed at it.

Wrong Turn (2003) Trailer


I usually do not watch horror movies because after watching enough "behind the scenes" specials, I can spot the fakery, which not only helps in movies but politics.

But, the movie Wrong Turn was interesting, it touched on cannibalism, inbreeding, and the mental state of those who conducted these acts, as well as the synapses firing differently about how people "bred" in this environment feel pain.

I find psychology and topics that touch that fascinating which is why I create threads like this one.

I am a thinker and I am always challenging the ways people think about life.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


I find the idea of cannibilism to be distasteful .



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


This has to be one of the sickest threads that I have
ever read.You are the king of sick puppies!
Back on topic...I am very well marbled and walk with
a slight limp.I even had a dream where I let myself
be killed so others could eat.I sure hope that was just
a dream and not a glimpse into my future!

I wouldn't be too easy to kill either...I am a pistol
packin' mama!I don't shoot anything smaller than a
38.I am going to start practicing on a pump action
12 gauge shotgun next.I won't go down someone's
gullet without a fight.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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A note to myself...Don't invite Slayer to my
end times hideout!



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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Of course, stomaching bugs and grubs might suit people better, some people.

I see far too many squeamish people about bugs, grubs, dogs, and cats.

Let alone discussing eating human flesh, if it came to survival, but we're all human.

Eating Insects


There are still plenty of people who eat human flesh though.

Cannibalism - Tribe - BBC


Most parents are squeamish of their kids bringing bugs into their houses.

I wonder how people with children would react if they had to serve Uncle Bob.


"Sorry kids, Uncle Bob can't come for dinner, we just ate him, er, um he already ate."

I find it humorous that people are squeamish about different foods.

I have eaten armadillo, rattlesnake, and gator, all of it tastes like chicken.

Personally, I prefer beef, pork, lamb, over human, but I've never had to suffer from a Nuclear Winter, so who knows until it happens, until then we can enjoy some Aerosmith and consider it.

Aerosmith - Eat The Rich



Originally posted by rival

Okay, a hypothetical...

You're starving to death, and I have a plate of succulent BB-Q. It has
a delicious aromatic sauce, that looks good, and it smells good.
You watch as I dig in with relish, savoring every morsel...I offer you
some...and your mouth waters.

"Where did it come from?" You ask

"Doesn't matter," I say, "Do you want some? It's delicious"

Anyway, the point is, or the question is. What if you didn't have to prepare
the meat or even see the body? Are you sure, you'd rather die than eat?


I love your post and love hypothetical discussions.

If someone were to serve me "human" without my knowledge, I would kill them.

So, to answer your question, obviously directed to the more squeamish members, I would rather kill my own "meat" if it were cannibalism.

Now you might wonder why and I will tell you.

If it is survival, it is different than Jeffrey Dahmer, meaning Nuclear Winter.

But, I want to know what the Hell, or who the Hell it is, I'm putting into my body.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Jeffrey Dahmer

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer and sex offender.

Dahmer murdered 17 men and boys – many of whom were of African or Asian descent – between 1978 and 1991, with the majority of the murders occurring between 1987 and 1991.

His murders were particularly gruesome, involving rape, torture, dismemberment, necrophilia and cannibalism.

On November 28, 1994, he was beaten to death by an inmate at the Columbia Correctional Institution, where he had been incarcerated.


Jeffrey Dahmer Interview - Extended Footage


In the modern society Dahmer is seen as a monster but in survival?
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Originally posted by rival
Here's something else to think about. I discussed this topic with my child recently. Why do we choose to eat some animals and leave some
alone. My child and I came up with three reasons

1. Intelligence (except for pigs, 'cause they're just too tasty)
But we mostly leave dolphin and porpoise alone, etc.

2. Cuteness (like animals we keep as pets, or objects of affection and
amusement. Although I--as do some cultures--would surely eat any
of my Chihuahuas strait away if I were hungry ~I even know how I
would spice them...lemon pepper for the little one and BBQ for the
other two.)

3. Religious guidelines (Hindus-beef, Jews-pork, Christians-horses, etc.)

It is all a bunch of rubbish...the food chain exists for a reason. The weak get eaten and the strong survive.

Personally though, I'd rather die and pass on to whatever is next, but, of course, I'm not starving right now...perspective is everything


A wonderful discussion you had with your family.

I figured out immediately as a teenager that the reason the Hebrew's were forbidden to eat animals with cloven hooves, it was because of trichinosis.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Trichinosis

Trichinosis, also called trichinellosis, or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork or wild game infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm.

There are eight Trichinella species; five species are encapsulated and three are non-encapsulated.

Only three Trichinella species are known to cause trichinosis: T. spiralis, T. nativa, and T. britovi.

The few cases in the United States are mostly the result of eating undercooked game, bear meat, or home-reared pigs.

It is common in developing countries where meat fed to pigs is raw or undercooked, but many cases also come from developed countries in Europe and North America, where raw or undercooked pork and wild game may be consumed as delicacies.


This is because of my studies into the Art of War mixed with the Bible.

I also figured out the reason the Ark of the Covenant could not be touched by Gentiles, was because of biological weapons, like anthrax dust.

The Hebrews were using bio-warfare back in Biblical times if you know how to read and decipher it, and considering I took Greek, for High School, where I was homeschooled, I do know how to do just that.

Being someone who thinks both in the "Western" mindset and "Eastern" mindset, I often look at how people in the West attach sentimentality to their pets, and those of the East see them as dinner to fatten up.

We in the West, speaking of living here, but understanding the East, are one of the few people who attach sentimentality to everything, animals and pets included, and the taboo about cannibalism is close behind that.

It is odd, is it not, that the symbolism of being a Christian, to take communion, is supposed to be devouring the "body of Christ", yet we shun cannibalism?

Food for thought, pun intended, I love gallows humor.



Originally posted by Skid Mark
I've heard of long pork. It was in reference to Al Packer. If it came to that, I'm not sure what I'd like to eat. Maybe a thigh.


Yes, I know of Alfred Packer, they made at least one movie of his story.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Alfred Packer

Alfred G. "Alferd" Packer (January 21, 1842 – April 23, 1907) was an American prospector who was accused of cannibalism.

First tried for murder, Packer was eventually sentenced to 40 years in prison after being convicted of manslaughter.


The Legend of Alfred Packer - Theatrical trailer


You just never know until you have to make a choice between life or death.

Survival is just that, survival, and when it comes down to it, we will do anything.

Anything at all.

Including consuming something we might not normally consider as a viable and consumable option, in order to live another day, and not die and be dinner.

[edit on 15-6-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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Well, one would think you might have left-overs, be sure and use Tupperware.


I believe Astyanax was making a crude joke about sexual "eating".

I could be wrong but I doubt I am.

reply to post by silo13
 


Well, we are a squeamish race, we do not want to see the animal butchered.

But we will slather butter to baste it, B-B-Q sauce to saute it, and toss it in an oven.

And forget eating fish eyeballs, like Asian's, American's see that as nasty.

Yet they eat hotdogs, with lips, entrails, anf buttholes in them.


And as far as straying off topic, this is a far reaching topic, it would be far, far off topic, to stray, and it might still be connected.

Placenta?

I have heard it is sometimes dined upon by people, made into shampoos, planted under trees as fertilizer, never have I seen a recipe for it though.

Honestly, I have never thought whether that would constitute "cannibalism", or not.

Animals eat the placenta after giving birth.

Yet we see them as lesser beings and they have instincts too.

We humans like to classify things, look down our nose at them, label them.

Yet animals are the lower class species?

In the Animal Kingdom it is eat or be eaten.

When it comes to survival, humans will become animalistic, and instincts take over.

Humans are the only creatures that instinct are bred out of by manners, ethics, morals, "Christianity", or belief systems, animals have no issue.

Animals have no control mechanisms, no war, and no politicians.

It is eat or be eaten, survival of the fittest, and forget about manners.

reply to post by pstrron
 


I know the name you're using and that picture for your avatar.

All I have to say is watch out for the Union Jack.

And a hearty yo-ho.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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In an extreme situation of survival, like Nuclear Winter, "murder" is a non-word.

But only after the world goes nuclear nightie-night.

Before then it would depend upon a lot of variables.

reply to post by butcherguy
 


Yes, it got mentioned, but thank you for mentioning it again.



Originally posted by Copperflower
My answer is a question:



Once the other humans are eaten, then what? Starvation will occur anyway.

Better to work together with other humans to find and secure a food supply that will last.

More humans = better chances of survival. One human won't last long on his or her own, especially after their last companion is eaten. Where will the NEXT meals after that come from?

Also, the mental disturbance would make survival pretty rough afterward, in any case.


Only if people are not smart.

Of course, people do not like to, nor do they usually think to conserve.

Portioning is something always argued about no matter the food.

When it comes to a group of people with different ideals of portion sizes.

Agreed, mentally speaking, not many people will know what to do.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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One thing I've learned in life is "Never say never."

Under even the most extreme conditions, I do not want to believe I would resort to cannibalism. Most examples of cannibalism and survival situations were the result of iggnorrance...aka Donner Party..or enviroment...the S.A Team Plane Crash. In most foreseeable scenarios, there are always other options.

However, in the case of the worst case scenario...world wide cataclysim...comet impact..nuclear war, I might do what I have to do to survive.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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One thing I am more than sure of: What people say they will or won't do and what they actually will or won't do in extreme survival situations are two very, very different things.

And that's all I have to say about that.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:03 AM
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Some of you, and the OP too, need to look at this. Be warned: it's not for weak stomachs.

Anthropophagi in the Volga Region

The photo was taken in Ukraine in 1921, in the midst of a famine caused by Stalin's collectivization decrees. Communism, anyone?



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