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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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Presenting an opposing view is fine, I welcome an honest exchange of knowledge. Anybody with eyes to see can see the intention of some people.

So now I'm to believe that you can visually see intent?
That is even further from reality than those who claim they can see a "chemtrail".




posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:43 PM
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No no no. As you raise your vibrations closer to that of the god head the chemicals in the reality air become ver clear to you. Try stimulating your pineal gland and shaking your body so you can manualy change your vibration level light. As you go up the ladder to the god head



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:59 PM
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You say yourself you cannot prove a negative. Yet you accept that reasoning in your first sentence. It's not for a debunker to prove that "chemtrails" do not exist, it's for the proponents who claim they are somehow "chem-" to do so. Weather modification has been ongoing throughout history. Does it apply to the concept of "chemtrails"? Not until someone can actually do a test that prove it happens.
Patents have been addressed many times in every "chemtrail" forum I've been on. A patent does not guarantee that something works, is being used or even exists outside the paper it is printed on. It is only a claim of ownership, should that become an issue. There are millions of hits if you Goggle "stupid patents". It's why it is a non-issue to most debunkers; we know what a patent does and does not mean.

You need to step back and look at debunking. We are not ignorant, nor deluded. We believe the science involved. There is 70+ years of scientific study, from around the world and across disciplines that are easy to find. We all sound the same not because we are blind followers, but because the science involved has not changed. Good science, which is what debunkers wish others used, remains the same, test to test, study to study over the decades of science involved.
If you have never been satisified with answers you've gotten, you should research it on your own. But claiming patents and weather mod programs haven't been addressed just shows you need to look harder. Both are brought up on "chemtrail" forums every single day.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return
This is a discussion forum bub.

It's not Comedy Central.

Joking is fun, ridiculing entire groups of people because they are on the opposite site of the discussion, is not ATS worthy.

The OP, wich is a wrong description by definition: no originality in his posts at all, should be ashamed.

If you don't see the problem, maybe you should be to.



Oh, I do apologize, I didn't notice it was a discussion forum, thanks for pointing that out to me.... bub



Back on topic - I'm pretty sure the chemtrailers, in all their zealousness on other threads, have probably ridiculed the sane people more than a few times, so where's the harm?

This thread is just a light-hearted look at a particular point of view, with a bit of humour thrown in. Something I think we need, given all the doom and gloom on ATS at the moment.

And hey, it's got us discussing, right?



(By the way, it's 'too', not 'to')



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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reply to post by stars15k
 





There is 70+ years of scientific study, from around the world and across disciplines that are easy to find. We all sound the same not because we are blind followers, but because the science involved has not changed. Good science, which is what debunkers wish others used, remains the same, test to test, study to study over the decades of science involved.


70+ years and your science has not changed?

Anyways, what does mainstream science have to do with the acknowledgement of potential clandestine spraying operations.

How can your precious science prove that particular planes aren't spraying particular chemicals at particular times?

The only "science" in the whiole story, that's applicable is that jet engines form contrails under the right circumstances.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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Oh, I do apologize, I didn't notice it was a discussion forum, thanks for pointing that out to me.... bub


You obviously didn't.




Back on topic - I'm pretty sure the chemtrailers, in all their zealousness on other threads, have probably ridiculed the sane people more than a few times, so where's the harm?


Nice sneaky insult there. I don't see many conspiracy theorists starting threads with a premise that is written purely to ridicule the opposing side.

CT's usually don't need to stoop to that level. Debunkers obviously do.

I don't even care who did what, I'm talking in this thread. It's ATS unworthy. People that support it, are ATS unworthy, bub.




This thread is just a light-hearted look at a particular point of view, with a bit of humour thrown in. Something I think we need, given all the doom and gloom on ATS at the moment.


Not, it is a collection of threads that are against the possibility of chemtrails, with some chemtrails ridicule on top, thrown together for quick gratification of the OP.

A lazy, kindergarten level event.




And hey, it's got us discussing, right?


We don't need ridicule to start a discussion with some content.

What is exactly being discussed in this thread right now?




(By the way, it's 'too', not 'to')


Really?

Let me educate you with an example:

"Too" stupid.

In a sentence: The poster on the discussion forum was considered "too"
stupid to continue posting.

"To": The poster on the discussion forum, was spreading disinfo "to", just like his clique.

"Too" means overly.

"To" means also.

I hope I helped.





[edit on 14-6-2010 by Point of No Return]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


Ok I see what we have here.

Decided to get your own thread huh?

But you don't exactly have anything new to say, have you?

I made some comments, in the other thread about you posting that list of Chemtrail threads, 4 times in 5 pages.

But you took it even further,

"This is my thread"

*insert List of other people's threads*

"Therefore, chemtrails don't exist."

"Chemtrailers suck! They all stink of poo, and are products of generations and generations of inbreeding"

"Common, gang, form the circle!"

"
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"This was my thread, I hope I get a lot of replies and star and flags."


A new low as far as I am concerned.





While the quote about poo and inbreeding may be true (I'm not saying it is true just saying it "might" be true) If all chemtrailers stink of poo then that would mean they have no friends?
Unless all thier friends stink of poo as well?


Anyway just because the OP did not write all the linked threads discredits him?
If thats how it works then all chemtrailers have been discredited and this thread is over because all chemtrailers use other peoples information and "research" as their "proof"



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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original post by point of no return
"Too" means overly.

"To" means also.

I hope I helped.







That my friend is disinformation.
This is straight from Websters Dictionary

"Main Entry: 1to
Pronunciation: \tə, tu̇, ˈtü\
Function: preposition
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English tō; akin to Old High German zuo to, Latin donec as long as, until
Date: before 12th century
1 a —used as a function word to indicate movement or an action or condition suggestive of movement toward a place, person, or thing reached b —used as a function word to indicate direction c —used as a function word to indicate contact or proximity "

"Main Entry: too
Pronunciation: \ˈtü\
Function: adverb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English tō to, too — more at to
Date: before 12th century
1 : besides, also
2 a : to an excessive degree : excessively b : to such a degree as to be regrettable c : very "




[edit on 14-6-2010 by LittleIndianJr.]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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While the quote about poo and inbreeding may be true (I'm not saying it is true just saying it "might" be true) If all chemtrailers stink of poo then that would mean they have no friends? Unless all thier friends stink of poo as well?


I think you are over analyzing. The way I said it, and how it was meant, was actually sufficient.

I know you just had to try and add something to make you look witty, but alas, to no avail.




Anyway just because the OP did not write all the linked threads discredits him?


The fact that he starts his thread of with ridiculing his opposition is what discredits him.

The fact that he seems unable to back his position up with his own work, and can only post links to other peoples' work is just the nail in the coffin.

I think my post was completely clear as to how his MO is.




[edit on 14-6-2010 by Point of No Return]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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That my friend is disinformation.


Oh, jeah, was the meaning I gave for those words not corresponding with the examples I used them in?

Please, don't waste my time with idiocy.

If you read back, you'll see where I was corrected by the poster I repsonded to.

Read that. Do still claim that I was wrong somehow?

Was the other poster right?

Next time you interfere, please check if you're not making a total ass out of yourself.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 05:32 PM
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What's the problem with someone thinking there are chemtrails being sprayed? Yes, I understand the argument that we are just seeing contrails. There is science that backs that up. The only problem I have is that from the time I started reading about chemtrails until now, I've noticed the sky get more and more hazy/foggy. The sky IS covered with more cloud cover and "clouds" that really don't pass for clouds. I've noticed just over the past year how "foggy" it has become (I'm in the Houston area). If you're on the freeway here, the horizon is a haze (alot of times downtown is covered in a haze on my way home from work). When I've mentioned this to friends and family they just say "ooh you know, pollution". Only problem with that, is that there has been pollution here for a long time. It really does bother me to see it foggy here every day now, it wasn't like this even a year ago. There ARE particles of SOMETHING in the air (in my opinion). I find it amusing that people who are anti-chemtrailers understand there is chaff being sprayed, but think people who believe harmful things are being sprayed are nut-jobs. really?? How does that make ANY since. Can we not find some common groud here? The debate could go on forever. I think we call all agree that the air is pretty d@mn polluted. Some people need to get over their ego



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:11 PM
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I have a question.

Are Chem trails:

A. Bad

B. Good

?

If you answered A, please see below.

What are chemtrails meant to accomplish, IE, what will they do to you?

Thanks in advance for your honest and timely answer.

I am being serious and not at all trying to poke fun at a particular group.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:15 PM
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I have to admit I was completely wrong on the to and too thing, you were both right, and I was completely confused, stupid, and a complete ass.

My apologies, English is not my native language.

Regarding the rest of the discussion, I'm still completely right, off course.

[edit on 14-6-2010 by Point of No Return]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:22 PM
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If they exist, bad.

What they are for, I don't know.

I just see more and more clouds and haze forming out of "contrails"

Does it matter what I think?

I'm responding against the ridicule of a group of people on ATS.

Threads like this don't belong on ATS, it's better than this.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:42 PM
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Excellent info. Clouds are never seeded to produce rain and/or control environmental conditions. Its all made up by US government. Got it. And they never test out different combinations of chemicals to see the effects on weather. Thanks for the clarification that the US government lied when it said it was studying such things and that chemtrails are fictional and there is no such thing as cloud seeding or weather modification. Very helpful, my friend.

Next you should do a piece on crop dusting, which foolishly many people believe exist. But that would be a chemtrail so it does not exist. Again, very good info.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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Unityemissions.....



Come on, m,mn , you're being quite the penis in this thread.


Brilliant!!


You see? I'll bet that put a smile on your dial!


A little humour goes a long way in a heavy duty topic such as this!

But seriously for a moment, matey.....

Do read the materal & lighten your chemtrail load!


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not




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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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OnTheFelt....



the OP just wanted to brown nose his disinfo heroes on here.


Yup.....that's it exactly!!


But.....what do you think of the package of material I posted for you?

It's seriously worth a very detailed review.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by zaiger
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Have you hugged your chemtrailer today?


Here you go.....for you Zaiger!!




posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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Chemtrailers are People, Too.



A cry for help !


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Thanks for the links .



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by naught
While I'm not entirely convinced one way or the other, ATS has caused me enough cognitive dissonance to delete my chemtrail youtube site.
As gets mentioned here a lot... without being able to reach up to 30,000ft or so and test the trails myself, I can't be certain what they contain.

I try and stay open to all possibilities, but I realized I couldn't go on claiming to know something I personally have no proof of. And some of the things that had previously "convinced" me... the grid patterns, etc... all seem to have been very reasonably explained here.

I really love ATS for making me think things through. I even once believed Alisson Kruse


Naught.....

That's absolutely fantastic.....& in itself I'm very happy to have spent the time establishing this thread, just for YOUR positive outcome!!


And.......that is EXACTLY what ATS is all about.

My "secret" for you.....

I started out worrying about chemtrails 10 or so years ago.....yup.....sure did.

I was almost a chemtrailer!!!

But.....I did my homework & "saw the light"!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



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