***SECRET BONE CHILLING – EPA Gulf of Mexico LIVE & DEATH Report***

Originally posted by SFKNOLEG74
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Thats some funny stuff. I have worked around, been splashed with and inhailed JP-8 for the last 17 years, and I don't have an extra arm growing out of my head, or had anything negitive come back on a blood test. So just use your head folks, don't go to the coast if you're weak.

I've seen it once first hand. I lived in a city with a Brewery in it. One day a hose broke on a truck on the highway right in front of a small Mobile Home Park.

One of the women who lived there immediately called all the media and reported a toxic spill. She and most of her neighbors all got sick and ended up in the hospital.

Then they told the reporter who came they were going to sue the company.

Turned out the truck was carrying grey water from soaking Hop's to spray on a Farmers Field. I guess it has some nutrients and they did that rather than waste it. It was safe enough to drink in fact.

Some of the people sued anyway, and the Judge threw it out.

People are funny that way.

In fairness though, there will be some problems for people who are already ill and that is a real issue. I highly doubt it will get as bad as the air gets in all large cities almost daily. A hot day with no wind and any large city will be ten times as dangerous.

...has anyone posted this link yet?... if not, here ya go...

gulfcoast.airnowtech.org...

reply to post by Emilymary



im just going to add the headline to your excelent post:

TOXIC AIR ALERT

BP Death Clouds Already Onshore! Benzene-

3400ppb & Hyrdrogen Sulfide-1200ppb

TOXIC AIR ALERT
Its vapor is heavier than air and can travel to a source of ignition and flash back. It has a pleasant, aromatic odor detectable at concentrations of 1.5 to 4.7 parts per million (ppm). (The workplace permissible exposure

level [PEL] is 1 ppm) (1000 ppb)


Wyn
it has been posted before
that is for OZONE and it is deceptive
which it looks like it is ment to be

as I said earlier OZONE is used in water and air purifiers
and is only toxic when breathed in HUGE qualities

the Bad gasses are the ones mentioned
benzene
hydrogen sulfide
and the like

Now the EPA know this why are they passing it off as important?
you aren't the only one to spot it

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reply to post by pai mei


Greetings Brother/Sister

Now can I stop paying my bills

Is there not something we can do to make it rain?

Can we filter the air or suck out the bad from Gaia?

What if NOW we see our flesh hands are tied and our flesh minds or blind... then can only we Awake with our new minds from this Nightmare, and evolve and take flight to the Heavens... For our True Mother is kicking us out of the nest... How much more pain do we need to feel before we believe what is trully real... If this is not proof that God has been revealed and Our past knowledge was hidden by the Fallen Ones... Than what more can we do but to let go of the side of the river and join the great party in the middle as the Maya said it to be true.

May peace be with us all... The greatest treasure in the quantum Universe...

Mr X

reply to post by Blaine91555

The thing is- environmental illnesses usually take years to set in and manifest as an illnesses. You are generally not going to see it in children or people in their twenties or thirties but it is likely to show up later in life in the form of cancer, autoimmune disorders, multiple chemical sensitivities, thyroid problems. I've known quite a few people with chronic fatigue and chemical sensitivities who can identify serious environmental exposures some decades before they actually became sick.

Don't go around thinking you're invincible just because environmental exposures don't bother you yet. If I were exposed to these toxic fumes I'd demand BP do blood work and possible chelation therapies. I wouldn't settle with them until then or until this disaster is controlled and cleaned up. These kinds of illnesses and exposures can ruin live permanently.

Everything will be alright. Have trust in the Earth that so innocently let's us have our way with it.

There is no judge, besides yourself.

All is well, and all will be well.

when you don't know how much you are breathing it must be scary
note the exposure times
the amounts drop preportional to exposure time

the longer you breath it the less concentrations are more hazardous
this assumes a healthy person

10 ppm

Beginning of Eye Irritation

50-100 ppm
Slight conjunctivitis and respiratory tract irritation after one hour

100 ppm
Coughing, eye irritation, loss of sense of smell after 2-15 minutes. Altered respiration, pain the eyes, and drowsiness after 15-30 minutes followed by throat irritation after one hour. Several hours exposure results in gradual increase in severity of symptoms and death may occur within the next 48 hours.

200-300 ppm
Marked conjunctivitis and respiratory tract irritation after one hour exposure.

500-700 ppm
Loss of consciousness and possibly death in 30 minutes to one hour of exposure.

700-1000 ppm
Rapid unconsciousness, cessation of respiration, and death

1000-2000 ppm
Unconsciousness at once, with early cessation of respiration and death in a few minutes. Death may occur if individual is removed to fresh air at once.



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Originally posted by Danbones
williams was talking Parts PER BILLION
the epa site is in ug per cubic meter
so while you are putting him down now you all betrayed your own level of understanding

the other epa chart was in PPM

here you go
you may wish to convert concentrations in micrograms per cubic meter (µg/m3) to concentrations in parts per million (ppm) or parts per billion (ppb).

This conversion can be achieved using the following equations:

Cppb = Cµg/m3 x 24.45/MW
Cppm = Cµg/m3 x 0.02445/MW

where

C = Concentration of the contaminant
MW = Molecular weight of contaminant
24.45 = Constant representing the volume, in liters, of one mole of a gas at standard temperature (25°C) and pressure (1 atmosphere).

For example:

100 µg/m3 of SO2, which has a molecular weight of 64, converted to ppm:
Cppm = 100 x 0.02445/64

totally different
williams stuff is all out there for free if you look

so to make sense of the EPAs figures you have to not be comparing apples amd oranges

here
you might need this to read the EPA chart

www.environment-agency.gov.uk...
has been set at 5 parts per billion (ppb) or 16.25 microgrammes per cubic metre (ug / m3). Benzene


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+1 Thanks Dan you've managed to articulate what I wanted but could never express. Some people on here just wind me up by being critical and jumping to conclusions without even reading the data let alone trying to understand it.

I've only ever listened to Williams on AJ's show. I can't bare him for more than 20 minutes before I start swearing at him to stop repeating himself and patronising me, and to move on to the next bit of info/data. However as much as I dislike him I feel his info is compelling.

...oh, okay, thx danbones... what i was looking for was an air quality statement (that may not be the right term) for continuously toxic areas around the gulf, like deer park or texas city or stinkadena, so i had something to compare the scary statements/numbers to...

reply to post by pai mei


Great quote! That song is so--very true! (one of my favs, gotta love Lamb of God.)

It is so unfortunate what this country has become..a corporation that thrives off the blood and land of this once great nation. Truly pathetic indeed.

ntp.niehs.nih.gov...
here is a sample of benzene

Carcinogenicity

Benzene is known to be a human carcinogen based on sufficient evidence in
humans. Case reports and case series have reported leukemia (mostly
acute myelogenous leukemia, also known as acute myeloid or myelocytic
leukemia) in individuals exposed to benzene. The strongest
epidemiological evidence that benzene causes cancer is from several cohort
studies in various industries and geographical locations, which found that
occupational exposure to benzene increased the risk of mortality from
leukemia (mainly acute myelogenous leukemia). Case-control studies also
reported that exposure to benzene increased the risk of leukemia, but the
usefulness of these studies was limited by poorly defined exposures and
mixed exposure patterns (IARC 1982, 1987).
Since benzene was reviewed for listing in the First Annual Report on
Carcinogens and by the International Agency for Research on Cancer,
numerous epidemiological studies of benzene exposure have been
published. Some studies found that the risk of leukemia increased with
increasing benzene exposure; increased risk of death from leukemia was
very high in the groups with the highest exposure (IPCS 1993). Savitz
and Andrews (1997) reviewed 18 community-based and 16 industrybased
studies of benzene exposure and suggested that the evidence
supported an association between benzene exposure and leukemia in
general, rather than specifically with acute myelogenous leukemia.
Most studies found that benzene exposure increased the risks of total
lymphatic and hematopoietic cancer (i.e., cancers of the lymphatic
system and of organs and tissues involved in production of blood),
total leukemia, and specific histologic types of leukemia, including
chronic lymphocytic leukemia, as well as acute myelogenous leukemia.
Little evidence was found for an association between benzene exposure
and multiple myeloma or non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.
The evidence in humans is supported by studies in experimental
animals, including many published after benzene was first reviewed for
listing, demonstrating that benzene causes cancer at multiple tissues sites
in rodents. Benzene was tested for carcinogenicity in mice and rats
exposed by several routes, including oral administration, inhalation,
injection, and dermal application. When administered orally, benzene
caused Zymbal-gland carcinoma and oral-cavity tumors in rats of both
sexes; skin carcinoma in male rats; Zymbal-gland carcinoma, malignant
lymphoma, and lung tumors in mice of both sexes; harderian-gland
adenoma and preputial-gland carcinoma in male mice; and ovarian
tumors and mammary-gland carcinoma and carcinosarcoma in female
mice (NTP 1986). When administered by inhalation, benzene caused
tumors at many tissue sites in rats and a tendency towards lymphoid
tumor induction in mice. Benzene administered by intraperitoneal
injection caused benign lung tumors in male mice. No tumors were
observed in mice administered benzene by subcutaneous injection or
dermal application (IARC 1982, 1987). However, dermal application
of benzene caused benign skin tumors in transgenic mice carrying the v-
Ha-ras oncogene, which increases their susceptibility to carcinogens
(Blanchard et al. 1998, Spalding et al. 1999, French and Saulnier 2000).
Later studies reported that when administered benzene by gavage,
heterozygous p53-deficient mice (with only one functional copy of the
p53 tumor-suppressor gene) developed head and neck, thoracic cavity,
and subcutaneous sarcomas (French et al. 2001, Hulla et al. 2001).

this stuff is all water soluable
it will evaporate
it will fall with the rain

ithink™ maybe gold_bug is trying to raise the price of what that name worships the most... Besides Obama just had lunch there today with out a mask on or hazzmat suit on, he even ate the seafood they flown in

Keep your minds together and at peace... watch out for Skull and Bone chilling titles.

In the End you will only have your sanity... And money can't buy peace of mind.

Mr X

Just saw on CNN that the oil can be tasted and smelled in the air. Now that is crazy. THe gentleman i saw said this, in these exact words "They are trying to tell us it isnt here, but we can taste it and smell it" - Looks like its about to start hitting the shore people!!

reply to post by Danbones


Wait wait wait. Obviously your math is correct, 1 ppb = 1000 ppm. Clearly.

But Lindsey Williams said that the highest detected levels were around 1000-5000 ppb, I forget exactly. Different figures for different toxins. Anyways, do you realize that this equals 1-5 ppm? I think you were using your math to confuse yourself about what Williams was actually saying.

Lets take 5000 ppb just so I don't have to go back and cite the exact figure. Even if you go up to 10,000, that is still 10 ppm. Now let's go back to the official Safety Data Sheet..

Health Effects of Hydrogen Sulfide

H2S is classed as a chemical asphyxiant, similar to carbon monoxide and cyanide gases. It inhibits cellular respiration and uptake of oxygen, causing biochemical suffocation. Typical exposure symptoms include:


LOW
0 - 10 ppm Irritation of the eyes, nose and throat

MOD
10 - 50 ppm Headache
Dizziness
Nausea and vomiting
Coughing and breathing difficulty

High
50 - 200 ppm Severe respratory tract irritation
Eye irritation / acute conjunctivitis
Shock
Convulsions
Coma
Death in severe cases

What we're dealing with is clearly in the LOW category according to this. I don't know, either this Data Factsheet is wrong, or Lindsey was wrong when he said that this is dangerous in the 5-20 ppb category, or whatever it was he said.

This reminds me of a line from a song.

The wind and the rain smells like oil and octane
Mixed with stale gasoline.
--Owl City, Cave In.

Just something to think about.

Originally posted by Danbones
1000 ppb = 1 ppm
100 ppb = 0.1 ppm
10 ppb = 0.01 ppm
1 ppb = 0.001 ppm

5ppm=5000 ppB

should I say say DuH here?

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I think you should mate and I'll add a DOH!

I think everybody should read your posts, but alas it seems many are not. But I guess we shouldn't blame them for their ignorance, after all dumbing down education is a major tenet of the NWO satanic strategy.

Originally posted by Danbones
this stuff is all water soluable
it will evaporate
it will fall with the rain

I think you are right...and the weather systems in summer coming from the Gulf tend to cross Mexico then get pulled back up North through Baja and Arizona/New Mexico, cross the Rockies going Northeast then meet up in the systems in the Midwest and push back out the Northeast.

Toxic rain from this disaster could wreak havoc and damage in many other areas besides the Gulf Sates.

reply to post by Son of Will


Dude, get the simple math correct.

FAIL! Wait wait wait. Obviously your math is correct, 1 ppb = 1000 ppm. Clearly.

As corrected: 1ppm = 1000 ppb.

reply to post by Son of Will


I transcribed the interview
yes I realize the measurements are in the range you mention
as I said in the post

the toxicity threshold goes down
as the exposure times go up

please note the exposure times on the chart
are in HOURS
people are breathing this in MONTHS

also as the above poster noted they arenot telling what the actuall
levels are
so no one knows how hi the concentrations are
if you can smell it strongly
they are at or above eye watering