President Obama: "USA to LEAD the WORLD in the New World Order" , page 3
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reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:40 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Just Wondering



I see China looking like the USSR or Yugoslavia in the near future.

China is unstable and not homogenous, which is a recipe for disaster. Large chunks of it are Mongolian, Turk, and Tibetan. There have already been riots and unrest in these areas.

China depends on the US to fuel its economy. If we stop fueling it, the PRC will fracture into civil war. Then Japan, India, Russia, Taiwan, and Korea will descend upon it like wolves.

I personally think that the fragmentation of the PRC may be the spark that ignites a third world war.


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:41 AM by LeoVirgo
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to
post by Jazzyguy



If having leaders is your deal then I guess this NWO crap is a good deal for you. Kind of like a followers wet dream.



Seriously, with a world with today's populations, who can there not be a leader. Picturing the world without some-sort of leadership is a worse picture then what we have now!

Seriously, what kind of world are you picturing? Where humans just all live how ever they want, no laws, no systems, just chaos?

How would there be organization of anything, without some sort of leader ship?

The point that if the USA does not start to help the world see that unity is a must for this planet....then another nation is going to try to do it. There are alot of leaders who see power benefits to NWO...but I think there are also a few that see benefits for the whole world, in uniting nations and countries.

The countries that suffer, are poor, have nothing....need a unity of the world. The countries that are over consuming, making more then enough money for their own good, need to learn to not let others suffer out of their own greed and pride.

Unity is the only way to become a great sphere in this Universe. The issue is....the people need to see this....if a forced uniting comes on the people, there will be war, fighting ect.....we the people need to see the reasons to STOP being separate amongst our own species, our own kind. I think the USA is a good lead, for such a idea......IF IF IF we the people, are backing the idea. If we are inviting, welcoming, loving, and accepting, towards other nations....are we not then being the light for others to follow in as well.

But I dont think we are ready for this yet....but it needs to be discussed.

The highest vision of Earth and mankind;....is unity.


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:47 AM by TetrisLord
reply to post by henriquefd



Thank you and well said the words new world order seem to immediately cause people to wet themselves the guy in the video was twisting the words of the document (i think hes looking for a job at fox news). The document which i urge you all to read (not just listen to some guy point out a few lines he could twist around) is just advocating a new way for nations to interact and communicate with each other The fact is our world is seriously screwed up and at some point if we are truly going to reach our potential as a species we will need to start working together before we destroy ourselves



reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:55 AM by aero56
Originally posted by ugie1028


Well boys and girls,

we have already heard everything NWO on this site, but wow. I didn't hear about this recent document.

What do you guys think!?

Sorry if i don't have much to say about this, but my opinion doesn't matter here, what matters is that YOU guys see this!

DISCUSS!

Please see George H.W.Bush's speech of January 29, 1991. He talks about a new world order. Also, where in the Bible is there a specific description of the antichrist? Where does it say the antichrist will be black, a democrat, a man in his 40's, or even a man for that matter?

Cheers!

National Security Strategy PDF

If the link does not work. Go to Google and type in National Security Strategy 2010. BTW this is straight from the white house site. This is as real as it gets people! (Thanks for giving me the idea to add this silo)

2nd Edit: Added a note to the PDF source

[edit on 6/14/2010 by ugie1028]


Please read the State of the Union address by George H.W. Bush in January of 1991. He speaks of the NWO. Also, where in the Bible does it give a specific description of who or what the antichrist will be? Where does it say he will be black, a man in his 40's, and ademocrat liberal?


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:57 AM by Kliskey
reply to post by ugie1028



Yeh... So no where in that .PDF does anyone say or quote "USA to LEAD the WORLD in the New World Order"

Unless the youtube says otherwise - Which I cant view at work


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:59 AM by g146541
reply to post by 412304



“What if” is an awful big gamble, especially if it is your life and livelihood on the line.
And I will not take a chance yet alone chance my offsprings future on any gamble.
If the world 100% of all people had free food energy housing clothing and freedom of voice expression Etc and we found a way to end all greed. I probably wouldn’t mind a nwo.
However, I have seen no proof of this but have seen evidence to the contrary suppressing nutritional items that are medicinal under the guise of them being harmful, chemicals in our water along with all of the other “Conspiracy Theories” that are if not true, most likely have a strong basis in truth.
Till then I’ll refuse to give up what is mine by birth.

(Edit) Spelling error MS Word makes nwo now...

[edit on 14-6-2010 by g146541]


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 08:59 AM by unityemissions
reply to post by henriquefd





You said it, buddy. People who are flipping out when they hear the term, "New World Order" are a little off their rocker. It's said so much amongst world leaders because it's the easiest way to describe their aspirations for a change in the world. In no way, shape, or form does this imply an evil intent. People are projecting their own evil onto these things with their wild assumptions.

Let's get back to reality, folks. The earth is entirely over-populated, we've caused the extinction of ~30% of the species on this planet since the industrial revolution, and it's projected that on our current trajectory, an additional 30-50% of the remaining biodiversity will become extinct by the end of this century! Some sort of global unity is most definitely neede to keep earth's stability systems in check and prevent a collapse of the ecosystem and civilization in the relatively near future. The days of doing whatever you want because you erroneously imagine that your impact is so marginal it doesn't make a difference are over. Time to grow up, humanity. Ultimately, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 09:31 AM by Clark Savage Jr.
Obviously , as mentioned excellently by henriquefd, the very term 'new world order' can be either sinister or benign depending on context. So personally, I don't now, and never have, found the term itself especially threatening.

The concept of a centrally controlled multicultural world however and the idea behind the phrase, I am firmly against personally. Despite the pollyanna-ish cries of some, that idea is totally unworkable and so long as this world stands will never be---and should never be-- the norm.

My reasoning , and human history pretty much supports it, is that people are at the end of the day individuals. Yes, it's obvious we group together, some share common goals or traits, we form societies, cultures.

But when nightfall and sleep come, we are still all individuals. And individuals have different goals or dreams or desires.

You can force people to comply, you can seduce or compel or influence them to comply, even in groups large or small. You can cry or argue or scream about what is best or right or just for the planet as a whole...and you might even be noble in so doing.

But that changes nothing at all so long as we are societies comprised of billions of individuals. Not in the long run. Sooner or later one man's utopia is going to become another man's nightmare.


Unity is inclusion for all or it is just coercion plain and simple. And despite inspiring sounding rhetoric, any call for a global unity just means someone else is deciding for you all over again. That works for bees maybe, but it's not for humans.

So my opinion is regardless of semantics or context, I will plant my personal and individual feet firmly against any coerced unity or forced assimilation on a global scale.

And as long as any one of us do that, the 'new world order/global unified society' is ultimately dead in the water. As long as we have individual will, they truly lose even if they think they have won.




[edit on 6/14/2010 by Clark Savage Jr.]


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 09:38 AM by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by ugie1028



This why I like ATS, it's members help you find things you are watching for.

This part is most interesting

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All the pieces of the puzzle continue to fit together.

[edit on 14-6-2010 by Blue_Jay33]


reply posted on 14-6-2010 @ 09:39 AM by nltkn
reply to post by ugie1028



since this is a conspiracy website and we do all encourage each other to think outside of the box.

what if regarding this whole new world order thing.. the joke is on us? and the intention behind it is really good? what in this video, in the text provided, proves or supports that the idea of a new world order is a bad thing?

remove all borders and systems that depend on borders existing. allow people to be free in every sense of the word. on a global scale. to move and live and travel as they please. focus on peace and eliminating war and weapons. on a global level. encourage countries on an international scale to be more self sufficient. as long as the intention is good behind it, how could this possibly be a bad thing?

there is one thing that is absolutely certain - the media that we all know by now that we can't trust.. wants us to hate Obama. has anybody asked themselves why this is?

i know for a fact that we are moving into a new world. a peaceful world. and in order for that world to exists we must stop thinking of ourselves as americans and africans and europeans. we must think of ourselves as people who live united and happily on this planet. together. with this "TRANSITION" into this new world, as obama may have referred to it in this document, will come a change in governing. it has to. isn't what we all WANT?
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