Originally posted by AntiNWO


Oh really? You don't do pissing matches and yet you jumped into a conversation I was having with someone else, NOT YOU, so that you could tell me what I should be thinking and saying. I'd call that a pissing match.

This is an open forum. And this thread is open discussion for anyone interested in the New World Order - - and/or various viewpoints on the subject.

I have a different viewpoint then you. That's all.

You want private convo try U2U. Geeze - Talk about controlling.


[edit on 22-6-2010 by Annee]

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

That leaves socialism, the middle ground CENTRIST system which takes the best of the other two systems while dropping the worst. It is the closest thing to perfection AND THAT IS WHY THE PTB ARE TRYING TO DISCREDIT IT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY!

How are TPTB trying to discredit socialism?

The USA is no longer (if we ever were) a Democratic Republic - - it is Corporate Fascism.

I really don't understand those who insist on hanging on to what we have. Who keep trying to hold up the constitution as idealism. The consitution isn't even original. Its a hodge podge of previous governments.

Don't get me wrong. The Constitution has served us well. But its time for progression - - its time to have new vision.

For the most part ATS is for right wing lunatics. The same people that support so-called individual "sovereignty" are the same people that support corporate government and private central banking.

They want soveriegnty for themselves and slavery for everyone else. Indeed the top 1,000 people are controlling 8-9 billion people throughout the globe. It should not take sir albert einstein to figure it out. Just use common sense and be observant!

I could call it a zionist conspiracy but in reality it goes way beyond that. Jews do not control the word, they only control a portion of it then throw in the rockefellers, onassis, li family, dupont, vanderbilt, mcdonald, disney, etc......

If hitler and stalin lived today those elite scumbags would be dead and the world would be a much better place. I do not directly support tyranny but sometimes the end justifies the means and I see no way that any puppet elected government can do this. For them its always..money, money and more money.

Is satan real and does he control the illuminati? It sure seems so!

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
For them its always..money, money and more money.

Is satan real and does he control the illuminati? It sure seems so!

I don't believe in Satan.

Money is power. Why is money power?

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AntiNWO

Wrong...you didn't say "organized", and I never said "organized". Like all liberals you try to backtrack when your agenda is exposed. You said "organized CONTROL" - get that? C-O-N-T-R-O-L. Don't try to distort my statement.

Again with the labels. Wrong? NO. Just different viewpoint.

Don't waste my time - - if you can't have a civil discussion.

More spin and distraction. You distorted what I said. Like all liberals you backtrack, distort, distract and whine when you've been exposed. You said "organized CONTROL", and suddenly you're conveniently forgetting the "control" part. "Labels"? As I said, I call 'em as I see 'em, and you ARE a liberal. Sometimes a label fits like a glove, as in this case.

Originally posted by AntiNWO

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AntiNWO

Wrong...you didn't say "organized", and I never said "organized". Like all liberals you try to backtrack when your agenda is exposed. You said "organized CONTROL" - get that? C-O-N-T-R-O-L. Don't try to distort my statement.

Again with the labels. Wrong? NO. Just different viewpoint.

Don't waste my time - - if you can't have a civil discussion.

More spin and distraction. You distorted what I said. Like all liberals you backtrack, distort, distract and whine when you've been exposed. You said "organized CONTROL", and suddenly you're conveniently forgetting the "control" part. "Labels"? As I said, I call 'em as I see 'em, and you ARE a liberal. Sometimes a label fits like a glove, as in this case.

You stop at a red light - - you're controlled
You salute the flag - - you're controlled
You flush your toilet - - a public service provided by taxes - - you're controlled
You obey laws - - you are controlled

Society is about laws - laws are about control. The more condensed a society - the more laws it requires.

I'm just not an idiot who pretends we aren't already controlled.

There are no James Bridgers anymore - - because there is no free land anymore on this planet.

Again - it is not "IF" we have a world government - that's inevitable and the only logical progression - - its "when" "how" "who".

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Again with the Liberal labeling - - meant to be an insult. The "catch all" bucket for anything you don't agree with.

I'm actually a 40 year registered Republican.

I do not support welfare. People can work or live in tent cities in the desert with the barest of basics.

I am hard on crime and support jail time for first time offenders. Maybe then they'll think before they do it again.

I love my Baby Glock.

I'd make it mandatory for any kid who repeatedly disrupts school and other students - - be placed in military school.

I am a progressionist. Nothing stands still. I don't believe in living "stuck".

Originally posted by AntiNWO

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AntiNWO

Wrong...you didn't say "organized", and I never said "organized". Like all liberals you try to backtrack when your agenda is exposed. You said "organized CONTROL" - get that? C-O-N-T-R-O-L. Don't try to distort my statement.

Again with the labels. Wrong? NO. Just different viewpoint.

Don't waste my time - - if you can't have a civil discussion.

More spin and distraction. You distorted what I said. Like all liberals you backtrack, distort, distract and whine when you've been exposed. You said "organized CONTROL", and suddenly you're conveniently forgetting the "control" part. "Labels"? As I said, I call 'em as I see 'em, and you ARE a liberal. Sometimes a label fits like a glove, as in this case.

Conservatives supposedly conserve the status quo while liberals supposedly change the status quo.

Democrats supposedly want a democracy, aka mob rule, while republicans supposedly want a republic, checks and balances to prevent this.

The key term in all this is SUPPOSEDLY while corporate infiltration and domination of governments is running rampant throughout the globe. You would think democrats cared about mob rule but the problem is they are being financed by corporations, so how can they represent the people? As the saying goes you never bite the hand that feeds you.........

The problem is not *control*. The problem is who controls who! In a society with no laws/regulations chaos is bound to ensue(far right-anarchy), while conversely in an over-regulated society oppression will eventually bring a revolution(far left-communism). The difficult part in all this(such as life) is finding balance and harmony!

Socialism is actually centrism but the PTB(who are moderate right wingers) will have you believe capitalism is the way to go and they don't bother explain socialism incorporates both capitalism and communism, aka a hybrid system! They will use nazi germany/fascist italy/warsaw pact "socialism"(actually communism) to confuse people into thinking socialism and communism are nearly identical and both tyranical while ignoring dozens of other semi-socialist states(such as canada)that are free, balanced and fair.

Of course we cannot have real/perfect socialism anywhere until central banks get nationalised. Private central banking is the smoking gun of elite capitalism since non-governmental agencies get to issue currency and control its flow.