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President Obama: "USA to LEAD the WORLD in the New World Order"

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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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Mmm, yes, "An international order advanced by U.S. leadership that promotes peace, security, and opportunity through stronger cooperation to meet global challenges." That truly sounds horrible! Hell on earth! 40 days of darkness, etc. etc.

People also had a big juicy freakout when George HW Bush dared utter the words "new world order": Link

Run for the hills!




posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 10:22 PM
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How ironic that this announcement was made in Berlin, of all places, as it is Germany that is destined to led the real NWO. The NWO that terrifies and terrorises the whole world; the one that goes forth conquoring and to conquor; the one that imposes the mark of the beast on all who engage in commerce of any type.

Yes, it is the German led and controlled EU that will impose a NWO with and iron will and iron fist. It is the Beast government of Revelation, led by the Antichrist.

Don't beleive it. Take a close look at Germany. They are THE rising power in the world. The German controlled European Central Bank holds the gold reserves of all 27 member states of the EU. Germany is quietly building an ultra modern military and the German High Command will control the soon to be handed over NATO forces, including ALL the nukes presently on Europen soil.

Germany has never relinquished their aim of world domination. The runs are on the board. Germany has started two world wars over its desire to control the world. They are gearing up to try it again, and this time they will succeed.

The puppet masters have no loyalty to the USA. The puppet masters are all from old European money families, and it was always intended for Europe to lead the world. America will be broken financially and when it is weak enough, it will be attacked with nukes and totally defeated.

They have always had the desire. They now have the financial muscle, and soon they will have the military capability, AND THEY WILL USE IT.

Ever heard of BLITZKRIEG. It means lightning attack. No warning given.

This was the German tactic in WW2. They will use it again to take out any and all perceived opposition and they will have the NATO nukes to do it.

You can pour as much scorn on this as you like, but do youself a favour and WATCH GERMANY CLOSLEY.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by cagliostro
Mmm, yes, "An international order advanced by U.S. leadership that promotes peace, security, and opportunity through stronger cooperation to meet global challenges." That truly sounds horrible! Hell on earth! 40 days of darkness, etc. etc.



Thank you.

When people talk about "taking back" - - they are truly living in the past. Even if they succeed - it will be short lived - - - because progression progresses.

It is more constructive and realistic to think how you can affect positively the future of a one world government. Because it is going to happen. It is natural progression.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 10:54 PM
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Couldn't of put it better myself!


That is all.




posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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Wow... You should try to read what you write once in a while...


Tell us, whose VISION of "peace and prosperity" will they enforce?....

Whose "version" of moral rights will they be "imposing"?...

The Obama administration, and others before it have already signed draconian laws that take away "individual freedom", and instead want to "force" people, like you seem to want...

Just out of curiosity, what form of government you think is better, or as good as it could be?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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Thank you for explaining. Somehow I don't think the coming NWO will resemble the ideas you propose. The devil's in the details - which are numerous.

I think we should all be FREE to create our own sovereign governments within the nations we live. Just look at the corporate world, in many cases the biggest are the most corrupt and the leaders are far more removed from the people.

If man is the all-knowing intellectual everyone thinks, he should be able to create peaceful micro-governments that don't fall under one world rule.

The above is my preference, however, I know the NWO is inevitable. It is coming. I look at the world today and I can't imagine it getting better. There's been a trend.

Peace



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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The republic is the best. But each local and sovereign nation and government can do what they want for that, unless it restricts people from leaving. Then they will have to allow free access. They don't have to join.


No morality will be enforced. Morality is immoral. Pure logic will be enforced. A free and open society that allows the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I for one do not care for morality. It is not a defined topic. It is not a supportable topic. It is not something that should be used to govern.

There are quite a number of supposed moral issues that can be largely discussed on logical terms on a wide range of issues. The main point of this Union is to allow free local governments to make their own decisions on those matters. Competition will weed out the wrong directions. As those locations needing the most help are obviously doing something wrong and will have to change or be replaced by vote.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 11:56 PM
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I would far prefer a new world order to the old state chaos.

flame away.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 12:12 AM
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for this NWO to happen America would have to be destroyed and the constitution as well. I can see this happen if there was some type of calamity to take America out.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 12:13 AM
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NWO the thought makes me sick.People please take a moment and think about it and while you do look around you.Not just in your town or city but your whole area then state,country then think of other countries.Think of the problems everyone is having now.Think of all the problems everyone is having and the trouble you see.Now don't forget the poor people the ones that don't anything because the majority of us falls into this category when we have a nwo.Who do you think is going to do all the work and sacrifice so the whole world can be as one.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by henriquefd
There is New World Order and then there is New World Order. Yeah, it reads the same, but you have to learn to differentiate those two when you read the news.

One is the NWO of conspiracy theories and I am a believer in some of those things(can't say I believe it all, because some people have too much of an imagination).

Then, there is New World Order, which someone pointed out, is something mentioned by presidents and prime ministers from many other countries, which just means nations want to change the way things are done now. Understand, there is already a World Order. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to have a new one.

Brazil´s president, Lula, is constantly calling for a New World Order. Is he part of the NWO conspiracy? No way. What he means it actually the opposite. He wants a NEW World Order, because he wants more power to developing countries in worldwide matters.

It is not just people that need to wake up. Countries have to wake up as well. And if we see many cries for a New World Order on the news all the time, and some of those cries coming from developing countries, to me that is a sign that countries are waking up and demanding change.

Heck, if you think about it, WE want a New Word Order, because the World Order we have now is screwed up. If we had the power to change the way things are done today, wouldn't we do it?

The way I see it, everyone wants a New World Order, because the present World Order is doomed to fail. The key issue is WHOSE New World Order will be established.


I'd triple star this post if I could.
For real. 2nd.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by henriquefd
There is New World Order and then there is New World Order. Yeah, it reads the same, but you have to learn to differentiate those two when you read the news.


You're wrong. Read on...


One is the NWO of conspiracy theories and I am a believer in some of those things(can't say I believe it all, because some people have too much of an imagination).

Then, there is New World Order, which someone pointed out, is something mentioned by presidents and prime ministers from many other countries, which just means nations want to change the way things are done now. Understand, there is already a World Order. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to have a new one.


Different in presentation maybe, but exactly the same in practice. TPTB want you to think that a New World Order is for the purpose of getting everyone to put down their weapons, join hands, and sing Kumbaya. Won't happen, not ever, and they know it. It's just a fantasy that you seem to be buying, hook, line and sinker.


Brazil´s president, Lula, is constantly calling for a New World Order. Is he part of the NWO conspiracy? No way. What he means it actually the opposite. He wants a NEW World Order, because he wants more power to developing countries in worldwide matters.


Yes, and the Easter Bunny wants more eggs for all. You are seriously buying that? I hate to burst your bubble, but world leaders do not want ANYTHING that will not further empower them - period. Any "leader" who coorperates with the emerging NWO will be (or at least is being told they will) rewarded with a permanent leadership position and a life of luxury for them and their family, where the laws won't apply to them, just as they don't apply to our politicians now. If you believe otherwise then you have a lot of growing up to do.


It is not just people that need to wake up. Countries have to wake up as well. And if we see many cries for a New World Order on the news all the time, and some of those cries coming from developing countries, to me that is a sign that countries are waking up and demanding change.

Heck, if you think about it, WE want a New Word Order, because the World Order we have now is screwed up. If we had the power to change the way things are done today, wouldn't we do it?


This is where your naivete shines like a million suns. The world order we have now is screwed up BY DESIGN. The very same people taking about how we need to change things are the people responsible for the mess in the first place! They are the war profiteers, the polluters, the dictators, the murderers, the bankers, the governments. They designed this hell-hole of a planet because it suits their agenda. Now they have the ignorant begging to save them from it. I have more bad news for you - they have no intention of allowing you to ever live as freely as you have in the past. To control an entire planet that's free to speak their collective mind is an impossibility for anyone. That's why we have such things as The Patriot Act. That's why Hillary wants the UN to pass INTERNATIONAL gun bans. That's why Obama has appointed an "Internet Czar" to censor or shut down the Internet.


The way I see it, everyone wants a New World Order, because the present World Order is doomed to fail. The key issue is WHOSE New World Order will be established.


The way you see it is fantasy. "Everyone" does NOT want a new world order. What they want is to be free from tyranny, and people like you are allowing these scum to lead us in the exact opposite direction.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by AntiNWO

Originally posted by henriquefd
There is New World Order and then there is New World Order. Yeah, it reads the same, but you have to learn to differentiate those two when you read the news.


You're wrong. Read on...


One is the NWO of conspiracy theories and I am a believer in some of those things(can't say I believe it all, because some people have too much of an imagination).

Then, there is New World Order, which someone pointed out, is something mentioned by presidents and prime ministers from many other countries, which just means nations want to change the way things are done now. Understand, there is already a World Order. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to have a new one.


Different in presentation maybe, but exactly the same in practice. TPTB want you to think that a New World Order is for the purpose of getting everyone to put down their weapons, join hands, and sing Kumbaya. Won't happen, not ever, and they know it. It's just a fantasy that you seem to be buying, hook, line and sinker.


Brazil´s president, Lula, is constantly calling for a New World Order. Is he part of the NWO conspiracy? No way. What he means it actually the opposite. He wants a NEW World Order, because he wants more power to developing countries in worldwide matters.


Yes, and the Easter Bunny wants more eggs for all. You are seriously buying that? I hate to burst your bubble, but world leaders do not want ANYTHING that will not further empower them - period. Any "leader" who coorperates with the emerging NWO will be (or at least is being told they will) rewarded with a permanent leadership position and a life of luxury for them and their family, where the laws won't apply to them, just as they don't apply to our politicians now. If you believe otherwise then you have a lot of growing up to do.


It is not just people that need to wake up. Countries have to wake up as well. And if we see many cries for a New World Order on the news all the time, and some of those cries coming from developing countries, to me that is a sign that countries are waking up and demanding change.

Heck, if you think about it, WE want a New Word Order, because the World Order we have now is screwed up. If we had the power to change the way things are done today, wouldn't we do it?


This is where your naivete shines like a million suns. The world order we have now is screwed up BY DESIGN. The very same people taking about how we need to change things are the people responsible for the mess in the first place! They are the war profiteers, the polluters, the dictators, the murderers, the bankers, the governments. They designed this hell-hole of a planet because it suits their agenda. Now they have the ignorant begging to save them from it. I have more bad news for you - they have no intention of allowing you to ever live as freely as you have in the past. To control an entire planet that's free to speak their collective mind is an impossibility for anyone. That's why we have such things as The Patriot Act. That's why Hillary wants the UN to pass INTERNATIONAL gun bans. That's why Obama has appointed an "Internet Czar" to censor or shut down the Internet.


The way I see it, everyone wants a New World Order, because the present World Order is doomed to fail. The key issue is WHOSE New World Order will be established.


The way you see it is fantasy. "Everyone" does NOT want a new world order. What they want is to be free from tyranny, and people like you are allowing these scum to lead us in the exact opposite direction.


Sorry, but calling people wrong, doesn't make you right. You call me naive, but you believing that all governments are in it together. That, to me, is what is naive.

And you claim to know anything about Lula. Dude, you are not brazilian, you probably dont even knwo my country or our political history. And just so you understand me clearly, I don't like Lula. He is as dirty and corrupt as any other president. But his whole political career is of a leftist who likes to oppose the ruling powers. His government diplomacy has always been one to go agaisnt the US, mainly because the US is one of the ruling powers of the world.

Why do you think Lula offers so much support to Iran, saying it believes in the right of Iran having nuclear energy for pacific purposes? Lula has his own agenda. He even called US´s view of a New World ORder as something immature, in an interview to one of our news outlets, last year.

By opposing the US, Lula builds a stronger image with developing countries and is aiming for the presidency of the UN.

You have to inform yourself better. Now, if you ask me, the president before Lula, which was Fernando Henrique Cardoso, that one I wouldn't doubt for a second to be a puppet for the world powers, specially, since he was a puppet for our banks.

Saying Hugo Chavez is in it together with TPTB is also naive, if you ask me. Here, from a news article on April, 2009:



Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is spending a few days in China. He doesn’t think much of the US or our new policy of “smart power” diplomacy.

"We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multi-polar world," was one of the first things Chavez declared after arriving in China.

"The unipolar world has collapsed. The power of the U.S. empire has collapsed," he continued. [Emphasis added.] "Everyday, the new poles of world power are becoming stronger. Beijing, Tokyo, Tehran. It's moving toward the East and toward the South."


I don't believe everyone has the same goal. I don't believe every single president, king and prime minister is willing to give away the sovereignity of his country to this NWO conspiracy of one world government. I do believe, though,that there are several power groups in conflict, and those conflicts are on a global scale.

It is too easy to just close your eyes and blame it all on TPTB and twist everything to fit into a crazy conspiracy where everyone who has money, power, or status, is an illuminati, part of NWO, etc. To me, THAT is naive and lazy. The world is much more complex than that. It´s not like ALL the powers are againt you.



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posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Here are four quick examples of how not every nation is on the same NWO boat:



April 09, 2009
Hugo Chavez Declares "New World Order"
Larrey Anderson
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is spending a few days in China. He doesn’t think much of the US or our new policy of “smart power” diplomacy.

"We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multi-polar world," was one of the first things Chavez declared after arriving in China.

"The unipolar world has collapsed. The power of the U.S. empire has collapsed," he continued. [Emphasis added.] "Everyday, the new poles of world power are becoming stronger. Beijing, Tokyo, Tehran. It's moving toward the East and toward the South."




Chávez, Gadaffi seek new world order
FRANK JACK DANIEL AND FABIAN CAMBERO | PORLAMAR, VENEZUELA - Sep 26 2009 23:28

Venezuela's socialist President Hugo Chávez urged colleagues from Africa and South America to help form a "multipolar" world on Saturday at a summit intended to counter Western economic dominance.

"This is the beginning of the salvation of our people," Chávez said in an opening speech to the two-day meeting.

He said the summit, attended by 28 African and South American leaders, would help the mainly poor nations improve ties and rely less on Europe and the United States.

"The 21st century won't be a bipolar world, it won't be unipolar. It will be multipolar. Africa will be an important geographic, economic and social pole. And South America will be too," Chávez said.




Published 15:30 07.01.10Latest update 21:44 07.01.10
Ahmadinejad: Iran and Syria will create a new world order
Report: Syria President Assad urges Washington to play a stronger role in Mideast peacemaking.

By News Agencies and Haaretz Service
Tags: Iran Syria Israel news
Iran and Syria plan to create a new world order, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday.

"Iran and Syria have a joint mission to create a new world order on the basis of justice, humanity and belief in God," Ahmadinejad told visiting Syrian Parliament Speaker Mahmoud al-Abrash.

Iran's president added that he felt that the United States would eventually be forced by the two states to stop interference in the region and withdraw its military personnel.

Mehr quoted the Syrian speaker as saying that Iran and Syria would side by side move towards continued resistance and fight against world imperialism.





China Wants Its Own 'New
World Order' To Oppose US Version
By Martin Sieff
UPI Senior News Analyst
2-6-2


MUNICH, Germany (UPI) - There was a cloud no larger than the size of a man's hand in the sky of U.S. global leadership at the annual NATO Security Conference, or Wehrkunde, in Munich, Germany, this weekend. But it will get bigger. It was the quiet emergence of China as the leader of a potentially global block dedicated to oppose the United States.


But I guess you can always twist it into crazy overthetop NWO conspiracy and say that´s what they want us to think.... Then, anything that goes against ones wild theory can be discredited that way.

"That´s what they want us to think they are doing." "You're naive." "You're wrong." "You live in fantasy world." "You're sheeple."

Everytime I see those arguments, I feel like I am talking to a kid and at the same time I am reminded of Bush saying "You're either with us, or against us."

Why can't we be on the same boat, worry about the rise of an evil one world government, but at the same time use discerniment and logical thinking to try and identify what exactly is part of the evil plot and what is not?

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posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 10:17 AM
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The greatest deception the NWO could throw at the common masses is to make them presume that its the govt who are pulling the strings. But the govts are only revolving door puppets.

If the masses don't like one leader, doesn't matter, another puppet would be put on stage.

This had gone on for decades if not centuries of mankind. Those in power, our masters, will not relinquish their powers no matter how incompetent they had proven themselves lately.

They are the rich and powerful, with obscene amount of money and had used money to motivate its puppets.

Be a good boy, listen and put on a good show, and you will get a stack of notes, a priviledge pass to private clubs, a place for one's kids in a prestigious schools, etc, all done behind closed doors. and biz as usual.

Will there be hope for the common masses with such powerful manipulations?

The only hope is to ever keep a watchful eye on every law and every legislative put up for election, and their affiliations, and be prepared to make a stand when 'sleight of hand' of laws are passed, to refuse to work and disrupt the economy.

The heart of the NWO is money and is their weakness.

It would have to be a coordinated call to every human in every nation to drop their shovels and wheelbarrows. Share whatever each has so that none may starved to break the starving intentions of the NWO.

In time their own resources will be hurt and they will have to come abegging, the way President Obama made the 'too big to fail Corporations' came a begging for bailouts on greyhounds. It was a sight to see, the NWO humbled.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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How can you make a judgment on a document you haven't read? I'm not saying it is or it isn't indicative of a NWO agenda. I just find it funny that you can say it's hardcore NWO and then immediately state that you haven't read the document. I know you saw the video but as with all things you should read the document yourself. The lines quoted could be taken out of context. Just like statistics, statements taken out of context can be misleading.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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henriquefd & AntiNWO

Seriously - - don't you think its a little bit (or a lot) of both?

I believe there is a shadow government (or more then one) trying to bring all the pieces together for a One World Government.

I also believe there are ego driven power people jockying for position on the surface.

We are talking about Power & Control. P & C has many faces - - even a Pope.

My only hope is there are some good guys in there that care about mankind and want fairness and equality.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 10:39 AM
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Oops! Double post.

[edit on 15-6-2010 by Annee]



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by brianmg5
Why do you assume it will be a dictatorship? Why is a democracy
out of the realm of possibility for you?


2 reasons

1) because we dont have a true democracy NOW

2) because a democracy is not mentioned once
in this document (at least I didn't see it)

I saw a video a couple weeks ago about
the European Union where they stated
that the leaders of the EU were not elected
they were SELECTED. And they could NOT
be voted out or impeached. That's not a democracy.
That's a dictatorship.


You're right we don't have Direct democracy right now where each and every person gets to vote for every decision. We live in a representative democracy where we elect those who represent our interests. But there is a big difference between our leaders being selected by the powers and our leaders elected by the citizens of the country.

You should be aware that this document does mention democracy. Here is the sentence, "And we reject the notion that lasting security and prosperity can be found by turning away from universal rights -- democracy does not merely represent our better angels, it stands in opposition to aggression and injustice, and our support for universal rights is both fundamental to American leadership and a source of our strength in the world."

What it doesn't mention, is anything about a totalitarian government or countries losing their sovereignty, or anything like that. Everyone in this thread is sensationalizing those ideas and basically speculating with only their imagination to guide their way.

What it does say however, "The international order we seek is one that can resolve the challenges of our times -- countering violent extremism and insurgency; stopping the spread of nuclear weapons and securing nuclear materials; combating a changing climate and sustaining global growth; helping countries feed themselves and care for their sick; resolving and preventing conflict, while also healing it's wounds." I know some of those words will cause 99% of those on this forum to freak out but they should really think about what it says. Really read it and dissect each and every sentence. It is fair to speculate and consider possibilities but it's not fair to make accusations and assumptions where there is no evidence (or anything even remotely close to evidence) to support them.

If you read further, you will see democracy again (now I'm starting to think you are a liar) As a Nation made up of people from every race, region, faith, and culture. America will persist in promoting peace among different peoples and believes that democracy and individual empowerment need not come at the expense of cherished identities."

Here they are seeing that America's agenda to promote peace will not cost anyone their identities (which includes their culture).

In other words, we're not talking about a take over here. While questioning something is healthy and appropriate (anything worth anything is worth questioning) the people who are fear mongering in this thread are doing so out of knee jerk reaction to the words, "international order." Did any of them really read this document and ask themselves what it's saying? What it means?

Unfounded assumptions and speculations - A quick, comfy, and easy road to ignorance.

Could their be some evil plot to create a international totalitarian government? SURE, but we don't know! To tell others that you know for sure is just spreading fear among the people. And making them easier to control in the process.






[edit on 15-6-2010 by brianmg5]

[edit on 15-6-2010 by brianmg5]



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by CHA0S

We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense.
- President Barack Obama

So I suppose he wont apologize for the oil spill which the American oil hungry way of life inevitably created... not to mention all the pollution...and if it wasn't for freakin American fat cats suppressing almost every alternative energy device ever made, they wouldn't need to be drilling oil in the first place! But oh no...Americans are always perfect, their way of life is always perfect, and they will never acknowledge the fact they've made a mistake...in fact, they are so perfect, they don't even need to be asked to head a NWO, they already realize their superior ability to lead, and have elected themselves...I guess the rest of the world should just bow down to you infallible saints and accept your wishes, you'll make it happen either way...

P.S. - I understand Obama was the one who made that statement, and I'm certainly not generalizing and saying all Americans think like him...but I'm sure a great deal would support that comment he made.

[edit on 14/6/10 by CHA0S]


He was referring to our liberty and freedoms. Not the deregulated private sector.

Completely out of context.



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