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Saddam Hussein, Ancient Sumer and The ET Connection

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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:40 AM
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I was surprised to find Pravda has a subscription database sold to universities...

All Pravda content back to 1912.

Comparable to the "ProQuest" subscription database of Historical newspapers(the archive of all major US newspapers).

Why some posters here discredit Pravda?

Because it borders on fringe and like UK's sensationalist "The Sun"?




posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by jjjtir
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


Why some posters here discredit Pravda?
Because it borders on fringe and like UK's sensationalist "The Sun"?


jjjtir.....

Exactly.....if not worse!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:45 AM
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Saddam would have spilled the beans at his trial if any of this was true.

If he had this info it may have saved his life.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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This was one of the earliest theories presented leading up to the invasion of Iraq.

Everyone talked crap on it, and acted like if you think Aliens have anything to do with Iraq your crazy!

But yes, I think there is a high probability that the Iraq war had deep secrets we still do not even know about.

The rush into Iraq was blindingly fast and brash. Why? Oil isn't THAT important, and we know Saddam got rid of his WMD prior to the invasion.

The UFO/ET theory still sounds good, but we have little to no evidence to go on with it. So it is just Speculation and little more.

Look I have seen a flying saucer with my own eyes flying silently by, I know its real.

So what does Iraq have to do with UFOs?? A LOT.

Here is a good way to look at this. IF UFOS Exist, than it must follow, that nearly everything is directly related to "them" and "whatever they are doing here".

With something like Iraq where we have the world's superpower rushing in over "fake" reasoning all gung ho.

You have to start wondering what REALLY went on there...



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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If Mr. Hussein had connections with intelligent extraterrestrials,

what the hell was he doing hiding in a hole in somebody's backyard?

Why not book a ride into space or some place else when the invasion started?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by BladeGlint
Saddam would have spilled the beans at his trial if any of this was true.

If he had this info it may have saved his life.


Ah but rumors persist that was not even the REAL Saddam!

Did you see the photo comparisons of the REAL Saddams Teeth with the fake trial Saddam??

The Real Saddam has near perfect Teeth.

The fake Saddam has crappy Teeth that needed dental work.

www.conspiracyplanet.com...

Check out the photographic evidence.

Fake Saddam on Trial has bent screwy teeth.

Real Saddam from History has perfect teeth that are straight and shiny.

We executed his double. The CIA knows that. I know that.

Why don't you know it?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:59 AM
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GeminiSky.....

Here’s an example of how your key reference material in your opening post is of extremely poor quality.

In addition to there being no original source info in the 1st link, I reference the video of the “UFO’s” seen in Iraq, also noting the link to the aforementioned video in your source doc is broken.

This video is an extremely well known hoax that actually shows a meteorological phenomenon that has been discussed many times on ATS.

Here’s a functioning link to the video:

US Marines capture footage of UFO in Iraq



Here are some images for you:







Here are some links for you:

www.atoptics.co.uk...

www.islandnet.com...

en.wikipedia.org...(optical_phenomenon)

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not

[edit on 14-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:07 AM
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Yes or even better we could immigrate him to BTS


oops was that a racist joke :O i hope not



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by GeminiSky
I know this may have been discussed before, but I felt it was time to re-discover the stories and rumors that I have read about 5-8 yrs ago about Saddam Hussein and his possible cooperation with ET intelligences in Iraq.

But lets examine this from another perspective, Modern day Iraq is actually Sumer, one of the earliest if not the first civilizations on earth.
Could it be that the ETs were interested in the ancient artifacts that were stored in Iraqs museums?

Could ETs have visited ancient Sumer and this place has been of interest to them for a very long time?

Does this tie in to the Museum looting during the second Iraq invasion? Where countless artifacts were stolen?

WASHINGTON, D.C. , 25 September 2003—As we all recall, in mid-April of this year, it was widely reported that over 170,000 artifacts had been stolen or looted from the museum in Baghdad. After fierce fighting, U.S. forces finally secured the area surrounding the museum, and on the 16th of April, a tank platoon was positioned on the museum compound to prevent any further damage. From the outset, the primary goal of this investigation has been the recovery of the items, the missing and stolen antiquities, and not necessarily criminal prosecution.

Would love to hear your thoughts!!


Hi GeminiSky, I really think that you are right here, and that the reason for the war in Iraq is connected with ET matters and not because of what I always thought for the oil over there.

It is indeed very strange that there where so many museum antiquities stolen by the US and shipped oversea.

Those antiquities must have been of a very great importance to them, so it is very reasonable to assume that they were confiscated because many of those artifacts are indeed ET related.

What could be another reason for that then?

Here is a video about the stolen museum antiquities.




posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:09 AM
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Spacevisitor.....

Please look again at the source material.

There's just no "extraterrestrial" link there at all.

This is extreme speculation, without even rudimentary foundation, based on source material that is of extremely poor quality, if not fabricated in total.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by spacevisitor
 


Spacevisitor.....

Please look again at the source material.

There's just no "extraterrestrial" link there at all.

This is extreme speculation, without even rudimentary foundation, based on source material that is of extremely poor quality, if not fabricated in total.


Maybe...maybe not, because you think there is no "extraterrestrial" link there at all, doesn’t mean there is no link at all.

And please do not pretend here if you know it all because you obviously do not.

It is not extreme speculation.

Can you tell me another acceptable reason for why you think the US did rob all those artifacts then?

Look for instance what Jim Marrs says about these stolen museum artifacts.


Jim Marrs : The Rise of the Fourth Reich in America
Laughlin, Nevada, February 2009
Introduction
Jim Marrs (JM):
Bill Ryan (BR):
Kerry Cassidy (KC):

KC: ...and why what’s happening in America is going on.

JM: Just as a “for instance”: I truly believe that one of the main reasons for our precipitous invasion of Iraq was to make a beeline for Baghdad, and use a mob scene as a cover, for a very concerted effort to loot the Iraqi National Museum.

What were they after? They were after newly discovered artifacts, tablets, scrolls and such that were being found in the ancient Sumerian cities of Uruk and some of these other places by French and German archaeological teams -- interestingly enough, the two countries who were most opposed to our entry into Iraq.

And what was taken? Very possibly knowledge of ancient energy manipulation technology. And this gets into anti-gravity and a bunch of weird and exotic technologies that conventional science would laugh at. But then, when you really study the issue, you find that these technologies have been worked on since at least World War II and have been kept under very ultra-secret classification programs ever since, because this is our leading edge technology.

So, you can see how it all ties together; Ancient history, UFOs, secret societies, the world government. It’s all part of the same big ball of wax, and unless you back off and take that broad overview and study a wide variety of topics, you’re never going to figure out what’s going on.

BR: This is something that Bill Cooper said, I remember, in one of his very famous lectures that he gave in ’89 or ’90 -- you may well remember it yourself -- he said: If you don’t factor UFOs into this jigsaw puzzle, you’ll never understand what modern geopolitical events are all about.

KC: Aren’t we also talking about star gates and, you know, because when you get into free energy, you get into -- from what I understand -- vortexes, and you get into the possibility there is a star gate in Iraq as well that they might be covering up. And then you get into the Anunnaki, and... so you’re into aliens or ETs, whatever you want to call them. Have you gone down that road at all?

JM: Well, sure. When you follow the evidence, that’s where it takes you back to. And we mentioned the possibility of a star gate or some sort of dimensional portal in Iraq, you know, that takes me back to the Bible and the story of King Nebuchadnezzar. He built this structure out of gold, which they translate as a fiery furnace, but obviously it was something else because people went in and out of it.

Of course, when his people when in, they tended to keel over and die, which tells me it was some sort of an energy field. Then he got the three Hebrew priests and told them to make it work, and put them in there. And, lo and behold, eventually there was four people in there. So three went in and four [laughs] came out, so obviously they were opening some sort of a portal, or a gateway.

KC: Wow. That’s very interesting. So, where do you want to take us with this? Because I know that there’s a whole movement in your speech, where you’re talking about manna from heaven, the monochromatic gold, monotonomic... how do you say it?

JM: The... [laughs] It’s the single-atom gold, monatomic... monatomic gold.

KC: Okay.

JM: Orbitally rearranged monatomic gold. Single-atom elements. These, by the way, this is nothing that’s just outrageous and unheard-of because monatomic gold, silver, heavy metals -- they’re in everything. They’re in water, they’re in food, we ingest them. This is just something else -- another layer of our 3-D material existence -- that we had not been aware of prior to the ‘70s and ‘80s. But then, that’s nothing new. You go back a hundred years, they weren’t aware of atoms. So, you know, we’re learning.

I think the thing is, and the reason we need to look into this exotic stuff and the question of ETs is because I think that we are in a conditioning process right now, that yes, there may be life in outer space, and this presents a danger. Because I know and I have seen the government documents. There are plans. Contingency plans and government files that, at some point, when they can’t make the international enemy list work, is they...

projectcamelot.org...



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:46 AM
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Remember when the second Gulf War satarted and the US army raided Bagdad on foot, the first thing they did was to secure the Bagdad Museum. And of course they emptied the museum and took some private stuff off with plane. I was informed by a friend who did business with Iraq before the war brokeout that, the museum held some important sumerian tablets and other stuff which shed light on the evolution and origin of human beings and so on...

Bagdad museum was the only museum in the world to hold info on most ancient history of the world...its a shame really...



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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Yes and most models have cellulite and spots and so do film stars etc ah the wonders of photoshop !

Saddam had white teeth in his photos so the other guy is a fake, I think more than that would have been looked at to check his identity.

As for the aliens crashing ufo's to keep the balance of power maybe they have picked up tranmissions of TORA,TORA,TORA and thought Kamikaze is the way to go



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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The real Sadaam died in the 90's the whole war was a farce to hang his body double..sick stuff.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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I too agree that this a plausible theory. If a person believes this is extreme speculation and fabricated why even waste their time in this thread?

I posted this thread to discuss the possibility of an Iraq-ET connection of some kind.

Maybe...Maybe not, If you do not agree with this theory, you are entitled to your OPINION on the matter. But please refrain from stating your OPINIONS as if they are FACT. It only leads to confusion for other members who take a genuine interest in discussing the topic at hand.

Thanks!!
GeminiSky



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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That episode of Coast to Coast was the first I had listened to ever. Was extremely interesting the topic and still is today for me. Too bad maybe..maybe not's pretentiousness gets in the way of the discussion about the topic.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by RyannVonDoom
Too bad maybe..maybe not's pretentiousness gets in the way of the discussion about the topic.


And it also gets in the way of mostly all other threads that I post in this forum. It really becomes tiresome sometimes.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by BladeGlint
Saddam would have spilled the beans at his trial if any of this was true.

If he had this info it may have saved his life.


Ah but rumors persist that was not even the REAL Saddam!

Did you see the photo comparisons of the REAL Saddams Teeth with the fake trial Saddam??

The Real Saddam has near perfect Teeth.

The fake Saddam has crappy Teeth that needed dental work.

www.conspiracyplanet.com...

Check out the photographic evidence.

Fake Saddam on Trial has bent screwy teeth.

Real Saddam from History has perfect teeth that are straight and shiny.

We executed his double. The CIA knows that. I know that.

Why don't you know it?


Months without a toothbrush will make anyone's teeth look like #.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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There are many many rumours for the real reason that the US went into Iraq:


  1. Get control of their oil supplies to secure a steady low oil price
  2. Remove the unpredictable Saddam from power by force after the CIA had failed, then replace Saddam with someone that was more cooperative with the US
  3. They had bad CIA intelligence that he had nukes and/or chemical weapons, possible purposly planted by the CIA
  4. They thought Saddam had gotten hold of Red mercury, this would allow him to create suitcase sized nukes
  5. George Bush Jr. wanted to complete the job his dad started in the 90's
  6. To give a boost to the US weapon industry at first, then to give rebuilding contracts to other US companies
  7. Saddam had found ancient alien relics from Sumeria, and would not give them to the US
  8. Saddam had retrieved a crached UFO and was researching it without letting the US in
  9. Some of the Iraq people have genes from an alien race that impregnated women in ancient Sumeria, and the US is secretly trying to kill everyone that has still carries the gene
  10. The US wants to destabilize the region
  11. The US wanted to stabilize the region, nukes was a lie that they thought was justified
  12. The US wanted to kill the anti-christ rumoured to come from the region or gene pool
  13. The US is fighting a holy crusade against the muslims
  14. Saddam had made an allience with a alien race, and the US wanted to stop him. Rumours of giant scorpions genetically engineered by creation science aliens
  15. Saddam was working against the will of the New World Order
  16. The US needed an external threat to keep the US population afraid, and therefore more easily controlled
  17. The US needed an external threat to keep the US population entertained, and therefore more easily controlled, just like the fighting in the old Roman Colosseum was there to entertain and dozile the populus
  18. The New World Order wanted to reduce the population in the world
  19. The New World Order wanted to start world war 3
  20. The US are imperialists that crave new land to keep the economy from collapsing
  21. The US are imperialists that are securing future oil supplies by taking Iraq
  22. The US are imperialists that are wanted to conquer Iraq before Russia, China, or India did, again because of the oil
  23. Saddam had gotten his hands on an ancient star gate
  24. Saddam wanted to publically reveal the true nature of UFO's to the world, and had to be stopped before he did so
  25. A combination of two or more of the above


And probably many more.


[edit on 14-6-2010 by Acharya]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by GeminiSky
And it also gets in the way of mostly all other threads that I post in this forum. It really becomes tiresome sometimes.


Come on GeminiSky, cheer up, and don’t let you push you in your corner that easy, because it is all in the game.

Everyone here has the opportunity to post his or her views, thoughts and opinions about matters like this or others but everyone here has also the opportunity to refute those views, thoughts and opinions or agree with them.


NO ONE knows it all, and the one who claim to know it all is absolutely lying.

Never give up and keep up the good work.



[edit on 14/6/10 by spacevisitor]



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