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Shoot-to-kill in Kyrgyz south amid deadly ethnic unrest

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posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 05:36 PM

Shoot-to-kill in Kyrgyz south amid deadly ethnic unrest

Kyrgyzstan's interim government has given security forces shoot-to-kill powers in a bid to stop ethnic fighting which has taken nearly 80 lives.

It also declared a partial mobilisation of the army to combat "destructive forces and criminal elements".

The International Committee of the Red Cross said it had received reports of tens of thousands people fleeing fighting and looting.

"Things are getting worse and worse by the hour," said Mr Chappaz, deputy head of the ICRC's mission in Kyryzstan.
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posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 05:36 PM
A million ethnic Uzbeks living in Kyrgyzstan are now living in fear of their lives —and tens of thouseands are fleeing to the border with Uzbekistan. But many have already lost their lives to marauding gangs of ethnic Kyrgyz, according to many reports, including this one.

It seems the country is right on the brink of civil war, and the signs are the government is losing control: in a last throw of the dice they have given the order for security forces to use lethal force "in areas placed under a state of emergency in order to defend civilians, in self-defence, and in the event of mass or armed attacks".

The (Uzbek) man in the video is shouting about civilians coming under attack from tanks and automatic weapons, and asking why the Uzbek forces on the border don't come to their rescue — though the reporter fails to explain what he is saying.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 05:43 PM
reply to post by pause4thought

I read this on BBC earlier, and think its is quite startling.
The nations asked for help of Russia, yet its pleas have been ignored.
I suspect some suspicious motives here in this on going situation.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 05:53 PM
reply to post by Esrom Escutcheon Esquire

I agree. Russia is undoubtably keeping a very close eye on these events. They even have an air base in the country with several hundred military personnel.

I can't help wondering whether the delay might be to wait till things are so dire that noone will be able to criticize them for going in (and propping up their chosen puppet).

Hopefully someone like maloy will turn up and give us the full low-down on the Russian perspective. (He normally does during such crises...)

Things are moving so rapidly on the ground that I'm wondering whether the Uzbek army might storm in before the Russians (officially) get involved militarily. But that's just conjecture at this point.

Meantime the situation for Uzbek civilians in particular sounds horrific. Especially bearing in mind the following:

The interim Kyrgyz leader, Roza Otunbayeva [told reporters]... "The situation in the Osh region has spun out of control..."

"...Attempts to establish a dialogue have failed, and fighting and rampages are continuing..."

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 06:05 PM
So, who infiltrated and started the violence?

Mossad? CIA? MI5?

Lets start taking bets.

Seriously though, if Russia backs one, and NATO backs the other, we could be in some trouble.

China and Russia now we cannot fight them right now, our troops are spread out and already in battle elsewhere.

We need to bring the troops home.

[edit on 12-6-2010 by At0mZer0]

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 06:15 PM
reply to post by At0mZer0

Anyone wishing to make that point is welcome to do so, but without evidence it would just be pure speculation. (Nothing funny, either way.)

Of one thing you can be certain: Russia and Uzbekistan are already being drawn in whether or not they wanted it this way.

The worst aspect is that this is rapidly declining into a humanitarian disaster on a large scale. As per usual, the politicians see maps and resources — while most ordinary people flee in terror with little in mind except survival.

posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 11:17 AM

Things are still deteriorating:

Kyrgyzstan's interim government extended a state of emergency to cover the entire southern Jalalabad region, as ethnic clashes spread there from neighbouring Osh.

One resident in Jalalabad said fighting was going on throughout the city.

"At the current moment, there are shoot-outs going on in the streets," he told the AFP news agency by telephone.

"There is a veil of smoke covering the whole city," another resident told AFP. He said buildings on fire included a shopping centre...

...There have also been reports of Kyrgyz casualties.

One Kyrgyz family the BBC spoke to by telephone said an Uzbek boy armed with a gun shot dead three Kyrgyz men who were approaching them.

Pakistan says one of its citizens, a student, has been killed in Osh and it is investigating reports that 15 others have been taken hostage.

More than 1,000 people have been wounded in the violence, the authorities say. Some reports say the casualty figures could be much higher.

The clashes are the worst ethnic violence to hit southern Kyrgyzstan since 1990, when several hundred people were killed. Kyrgyzstan was then part of the Soviet Union, which sent in troops to quell the unrest.

Source: Tens of thousands flee ethnic violence in Kyrgyzstan

NB: The original video from the OP is now found here

posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 05:05 PM

Regional group agrees plan to stop Kyrgyzstan violence

A regional grouping of former Soviet states has agreed measures to stop ethnic violence in southern Kyrgyzstan, reports say.

Senior officials from Russia, Central Asia and other countries have sent plans to leaders for approval, after an emergency meeting in Moscow.

At least 124 people have been killed in three days of fighting between Kyrgyz and ethnic Uzbeks.

Tens of thousands of Uzbek refugees have crossed the border to Uzbekistan...

...The Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO), which includes Kyrgyzstan, has not detailed what their proposals include. The BBC's Richard Galpin in Moscow says that a top Russian official at the meeting was quoted as saying that nothing had been ruled out and that he hoped a plan of action would be agreed soon...

...Sporadic attacks continued on Monday in the southern cities of Osh and Jalabad, amid further accusations that Kyrgyzstan troops in some areas had supported anti-Uzbek mobs.

The BBC's Rayhan Demytrie in Osh says that many ethnic Uzbeks in the city are trapped in their homes - fearing attacks from mobs on the streets if they leave - and are in urgent need of food and supplies...

Who knows where this is all leading? It's now looking increasingly likely that Russia will get involved on the ground. However the immediate issue remains the humanitarian crisis.

posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 08:27 PM
This ethnic unrest was fueled by political motivations. The Kyrgyz and Uzbeks always lived together without any serious issues. There is no separatism underlying this, so it was initiated on the Kyrgyz side. And the main objective of the ones who started this - is not to hurt the Uzbek but to throw the country into turmoil and topple the current government.

This is a calculated effort to undermine the authority of the new Kyrgyz government, by the supporters of the recently ousted Bakiev, who happened to be supported by the US while he was in power. Is the US behind this however? I doubt it. If it is, and the current government endures, then they would kick the remaining US forces out for certain, and it would bury any potential future reations between the two.

Bakiev, who fled the country after the coup a few months ago, does have a lot of supporters in the area of the current conflict. He certainly has enough leverage to threaten the new government. Meanwhile the interim government has very little in the way of military or interior forces, so their efforts to curb the violence are highly limited.

As for Russia - it will not interfere directly. That is certain. Russia has nothing to gain from occupying any part of Kyrgystan, and it certainly does not want to be embroiled in a Central Asian conflict that can spiral out of control at any moment. The most Russia will do, is provide aid and political backing to the Kyrgyz government. The conflict does not effect the entire country, and is far from the capital of Bishkek. There is no danger yet of the entire country being dragged into this. If worst comes to worst, the troubled area can be isolated and could turn into yet another frozen conflict zone, with a separatist Kyrgyz faction.

Most likely scenario however, is that the Kyrgyz government curbs the violence within the next few weeks. That would not stop the problem however, as there are still millions of Uzbek in Kyrgyztan, and already tens of thousands of displaced people. Western media will drop the news eventually and everyone in the West will forget about Kyrgyzstan, until the next flare up.

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