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New Orleans TV station WDSU confirms via VIDEO BP blocking access to workers on Grand Isle

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posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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Check this out guys, just saw it on my google home page news tab.

bp hires Talon




posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 04:48 AM
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This is all very bewildering, I'm seeing American people worried that they are being slowly invaded and controlled bit by bit and that worries me.

I'm from the UK and have been watching this whole situation grow steadily more out of control every day, to be honest I've watched the whole world grow steadily out of control in such a quick time, more on that after.

In fairness I can understand security on beaches, there's always the chance that some person would by accident or deliberately get covered in gunk and then slap a law suit all over the place. But this seems so much deeper than that, people being barred from speech, 'security' making sure they understood the score before letting the reporter as them if they wanted to speak, the unison of voice was quite clear and frightened, they had been told exactly what happens if you speak.

You also have to ask what they are doing, you would need 10 x their number to help clean up the beach, are they just there as a 'symbol'?

My head says that's exactly what they are there for...

The beach cop clearly had no idea who these people were and did as little as possible to conform their identity, I'm sure when he got back to the office there were a few hard phone calls back and forth with the end result of him being told exactly what to do and not interfere.

I'm disgusted that Americans who worship the act of freedom are being corralled, ignored and lied to in such quantities of late. I have no doubt this oil situation is going to get MUCH worse, the idea of nuking it will in my opinion only make the situation worse, much worse.

And now the weird bit, I could be wrong and probably sound like a loon but here you go, is there anyone else who's finding the way the whole world is going is more than just strange. The world is broke, in financial ruins everywhere, also the planet seems to be at odds with itself, there's so many earthquakes, mud slides, storms volcano's and general mayhem world wide.

Are we entering the end of day scenario?

And worse, do the powers that be know about it, everything seems so fractured and so little information is being given out, in fact more and more is being denied. Does the guy from Wikileaks actually really know something BIG.

It may sound mad but form here it looks like the whole planet is being run into the ditch, I hope I'm wrong, here in the UK the extremists are slowly but surely taking over, I fear for my mixed race family, every where I look I see more mayhem on our streets, kids with no future and much worse kids who have no wish to work or better themselves in a legal way, gangs and drugs are all they aspire to here in Northolt on the edge of west London. The social standards are quickly heading in to the gutter while 3rd world loons appear to be more in control of us than our own government.

Looking at the US, suddenly the race issue has flared up hugely and yes, you are being over ran by the same 3rd world nutcases we have here. Eurpope is the same and every country is indeed in debt up to it's eyeballs, all bailing out eachother with money owed to them from countries that can't pay it back.

Sorry, but the planets future looks more than shaky, either it's going to blow itself up or it will be blown up by the loons with the weapons, either way I don't like the future...

And is it me or do you have a feeling Obama is making it much worse for every one, bowing to people we have long considered enemies, the race issue has flared up around him and like with every other serious issue he does nothing or even more disgusting goes to play golf, Nero fiddling and all that.

Are we being trashed so a single world order can take over?

Sounds insane but less so every day..

[edit on 13-6-2010 by Mclaneinc]

[edit on 13-6-2010 by Mclaneinc]



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:09 AM
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Are we being trashed so a single world order can take over?

Sounds insane but less so every day..


No way man! Globalization obviously means more chaos, more particularization, more Balkanization, more thugs relating to people at gun point. As far as I can see, Globalization is an empty talk, wishful thinking of people who are crowded on a sinking ship. They can't maintain order in the USA, how can they hope of creating order anywhere in the world - they only go to war and talk about new wars (Iran). One World Government - HA! I'd really like to see that


Don't you see that they have lifted their hands up in their impotence?

Thugs and incompetent politicians prevailing in society (fascism, corporatism) doesn't mean ORDER.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by TheChemist187
Check this out guys, just saw it on my google home page news tab.

bp hires Talon



I posted about this on the last page. I'm not sure which Talon group it is though.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:22 AM
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Will you guys calm the H down for a bit. Those two guards were not special forces veterans. The darker haired lad was nearly feminine for crying out loud.
Look at it this way perhaps. I believe they are treating the land they are occupying exactly the same as they would a factory, refinery or etc workplace owned by this company.
One couldn't walk right in to a bp plant and start going around asking questions could they? No, at the very least they would need to report in to the front office and would more than likely be given escort.
Right or wrong, this is how they are handling this. A tent on a public beach is just a tent. If bp owns the tent, then everything from the base of the tent to the top is bp's business. Including the workers underneath it.
Perhaps this whole incident is nothing more than liability issues from bp's side. Sort've like not wearing a hardhat onto a company site. Ya get what I'm saying?



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:42 AM
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Yes, permian extinction event could take place again but "da nuke" could hardly cause it. Nuking the well throat is after all, as said by some posters long before, the only option now.

But whatever you do to stop this leak has unpredictable results, just like actually drilling the well. I see more people are made aware of risks involved in drilling operations, but it doesn't have to be that way - I see a huge agenda and conspiracy behind this "accident".

But yes, if methane is released from the sea bed, it's a quick death for all that crawls, swims and flies. You'd be dead before hearing news about it.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
Everyone should boycott ALL BP product immediately. As little effort as it is - I have avoided BP petrol stations since - but if everyone did this - imagine the message it would send to the big corps - and imagine how scared shirtless they'd be!

Here's the only way you can "boycott BP":

Originally posted by wylekat
I boycott oil pretty darn good- I sold my car, walk everywhere, and bike/ take the bus everywhere else. I carpool with friends. I try (and I am failing this summer) to keep my power consumption to a minimum.
It's not much, but it's something......


From www.abovetopsecret.com...

All oil companies are in the same can... BP may even be the better of the lot.

[edit on 13/6/2010 by SassyCat]



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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Anybody notice the Talon Security/Scientology connection when poking around?

www.holysmoke.org...


Not saying it's the same Talon Security, but there's lots of chase-able, meaty leads in that conversation. Just tossing it out there for you dogs!



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
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Are we being trashed so a single world order can take over?

Sounds insane but less so every day..


No way man! Globalization obviously means more chaos, more particularization, more Balkanization, more thugs relating to people at gun point. As far as I can see, Globalization is an empty talk, wishful thinking of people who are crowded on a sinking ship. They can't maintain order in the USA, how can they hope of creating order anywhere in the world - they only go to war and talk about new wars (Iran). One World Government - HA! I'd really like to see that


Don't you see that they have lifted their hands up in their impotence?

Thugs and incompetent politicians prevailing in society (fascism, corporatism) doesn't mean ORDER.



Whoa...

I'm not in favour of a single order ideal, far from it, infact the way it was meant to read was that I fear they are trying to do this wanted or not.

The idea of one single force running the world has me thinking of me being placed in a cubicle and forever watched and controlled, thanks but it's not a world I want..



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by SassyCat

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
Everyone should boycott ALL BP product immediately. As little effort as it is - I have avoided BP petrol stations since - but if everyone did this - imagine the message it would send to the big corps - and imagine how scared shirtless they'd be!

Here's the only way you can "boycott BP":

Originally posted by wylekat
I boycott oil pretty darn good- I sold my car, walk everywhere, and bike/ take the bus everywhere else. I carpool with friends. I try (and I am failing this summer) to keep my power consumption to a minimum.
It's not much, but it's something......


From www.abovetopsecret.com...

All oil companies are in the same can... BP may even be the better of the lot.

[edit on 13/6/2010 by SassyCat]


Sadly the oil companies have us over the proverbial 'barrel' and they know it. It's all good and saying boycott them but to really make them feel the pain we would literally have to put our lives at risk and as noble as a gesture I can't imagine enough people willing to do that.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 07:25 AM
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Since the concept of progress is long since gone, it was replaced with the concept of security, but immigration problem and oil spill (possible displacement) and pending war(s) and climate change, bring about another concept - disaster era.

Globalization and NWO (which is a very old concept actually) are on ice right now.

Society is malfunctioning, that is obvious. The result will be more like some kind of feudal particularization. Government (?) agencies, corporations - they will all fight on their own for bare survival. I don't see how big states can survive such a collapse of economy we are facing. Forceful exploitation of resources had many negative effects and it will be difficult to deal with it. Just look at the Bay area - fishing and tourism destroyed, that's just one aspect of it. In other places, just climatic errata makes big problems. Banking bubbles already caused irremediable damage and lay offs. Put it all together, Globalization is more like a Global crisis, and NWO is more like New Chaos.

The number of 40 million Americans on food stamps will increase rapidly. The rest of the world will follow.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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That video clip is really disturbing. I wonder what 'dumb and dumber' (the 2 hired secuirty chimps) would do if enough locals gathered , stormed the beach and demanded to know what the hell is really going on ?



[edit on 13-6-2010 by JohnySeagull]



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by janon
Wow is this really The United States!? I don't understand how a private security force can close a public beach?


YES I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS CAN BE?

how can americans allow this? where the hell is greenpeace, wwf and all those other ngos?

president obama. you need to get your people more involved in the cleanup exercise. who the f##k are those private security people and what the hell are they doing? those beaches are not in IRAQ. BP does not own those beaches they destroyed.

that video makes my blood boil. i want to see bp go under now. too bad its headed by snobbish brit morons.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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It was Transocean, the guys that APPROVED a USD$1billion return to shareholders from company funds, AFTER the sinking of their rig Deepwater Horizon.....work that one out..



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:19 AM
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OK for starters, these security guys have no legal right to deny access to any part of a public area. If someone were to ignore them and continue walking down the beach, they can do nothing to stop you!! If they do, they are the ones in trouble.

Things like Night Clubs or public events (concerts), where a section of outside land is rented and sealed off from the public is a different story, they have authority in such environments "though still heavily restricted to within the boundries of the law", they are private citizens like yourself.

All this talk about "you can't go over there", "you're not allowed on the beach", are just bluff... Pure Bluff.

Unless BP has paied for exclusive use of the entire coastline of new mexico and are holding the clean-up as a private event, those guards don't have the ability to enforce anything upon private citizens.

My suggestion is, people start going for walks along the beach and stop worrying about being arrested. These guys are not cops and can't do squat, exept blow hot air at you. If they do, well hell, you can sue and make a fortune..lol



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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I have been reading this site for a long time, but I have never posted before. The video is one more thing to make you go "Hmmmm?". Who are these people employed by and how the heck can they tell a citizen that they are not allowed on the property that is owned by the citizens? What would have happened if the reporter just walked past them? How many HAVE just walked past them and what were the consequences?

Another thing that dawned on me this morning is why is the Coast Guard in charge of this (from the Gov't side of it) and not the Army Corps of Engineers? I understand that Thad Allen had extensive experience with the Exxon Valdez spill, but wouldn't the ACOE be a more logical choice to head this up? Are they even involved? I have not heard them mentioned in anything I have seen or read.

To do anything affecting, near, or even downstream of a Federally controlled waterway you have to get permits from the ACOE. I would say that this oil disaster falls directly under their jurisdiction. They also can do some pretty remarkable engineering and have the capability to dispatch to an area with massive amounts of talent and equipment. I watched this firsthand when there was a major flood in front of our cabin.

I am certainly having a "Hmmmm?" morning. I don't believe that the Gov't wants this mess cleaned up anytime soon and I think that my "Hmmmmm" moment has confirmed this for me. Ok, I just had to get that off my chest........



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:27 AM
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Obviously, government has made secret decisions and don't want them in public. That is nothing but treason.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:40 AM
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I've been wondering for WEEKS now - where are the National Guard troops that Obama promised to help with the cleanup?

Shouldn't there be something like 12,000 NG troops in the area? This would be on every news bulletin - haven't seen a single one yet helping out.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:43 AM
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I'd probably get myself into trouble because there is no way I'd take "I'm not at liberty to tell you who employ's me" for an answer if they were ~trying~ to keep me off the beach. If they are hired by BP then they are employed by a foreign entity and on US soil they would not be telling me where I could and could not go on a PUBLIC beach.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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Good point about them being a foriegn entity. Even if they were a US corporation they don't own the land so how could any entity, other than the government itself, close the beach? I guess we have to conclude that they are employed by the government.

I would get myself in trouble too.




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