reply to post by packinupngoin
I don't know if this helps
I think is does because I am personally involved with this prophesy
in a strange way
it is a large part of why I post at all
Deganawida founded the Six nations around 1200 to 1400 ad
their government and nation are still standing in the face of all that has happened
said that the constitution he gave the Iroqois is a major influence in the creation of the US constitution
I think you'll find it food for thought
the Dragon symbolism here occures around the world...
the book of enoch and kali ma etc, and to me this is a validating sign...
red -Rothschild faction
white -rank and file Americans
Black- oriental...chinese (not blacks as some say)
He told the people that they will face a time of great suffering. A time when they will distrust their leaders and the principles of peace and of the
Confederation. That a great White Serpent was to come upon their people. For a time it will intermingle with the Indian people and will be accepted by
them. They will treat the serpent as a friend. In time, the serpent will become so powerful that it will attempt to destroy the Indians.
The White Serpent is described as choking the life's blood out of the Indian people. Deganwida told them that they will seem to be lost, and that
when things look the darkest a Red Serpent the White Serpent. Upon seeing the Red Serpent the White Serpent will be terrified and will release the
Indian, who will fall to the ground like a helpless child. Then the White Serpent will turn all its attention to the Red Serpent.
Bewilderment will cause the White Serpent to accept the Red Serpent momentarily. Then the serpents will have a heated argument and begin to fight. The
indian will revive and crawl toward the land of the hilly country where he will assemble his people together. They will renew their faith and the
priciples that Deganawida had taught them. At the same time there will be a great love and forgiveness come among the Indian peoples for their
brothers. At this gathering there will come streams of people from many tribes from all over the country. They will gather in the hilly country and
renew their friendship. Deganawida said that they will remain neutral in the fight between the two serpents.
While they are watching the two serpents locked in battle, a great message will come to them that will make them very humble. When they become truly
humble, a young leader, an Indian boy, will come to them. He will be a holy man who will be able to see the future- a great prophet. Nobody will know
who he is or where he comes from , but he will be given great power and will be heard by thousands. He will give the Indian people guidance and hope.
He will instruct them to to go back to their former land. He will be accepted as their leader.
Deganwida said that they will gather in the land of the hilly country beneath the branches of the elm tree and burn tobacco as an offering. They will
call upon the Deganawida by name in their darkest hours, and then He will return.
Deganawida said, that , as the young prophet speaks to the Indian, he will be heard by all the people at the same time. Then, while the Indian people
are gathered together to watch the fight between the two serpents, a Black Serpent will come up from the sea in the South. He will stand there to rest
for a spell, to get his breath, while watching to the North toward the land where the White Serpent and Red Serpent are fighting.
Deganawida said that the battle between the White Serpent and Red Serpent will begin slowly, but then will become so violent that the mountains will
crack open, the rivers will boil and the fish will die. He said that there will be no leaves on the trees and no grass. That strange bugs and beetles
will crawl from the ground and attack both of the serpents. It will become so hot that the stench of death will cause both serpents to become ill.
Then, as as the boy prophet is watching the fight, the Red Serpent will reach around the back of the White Serpent and pull from the boy's head, a
hair, which will be carried toward the South by a great wind into the hands of the Black Serpent. As the Black Serpent studies the hair, it will
suddenly turn into a white woman who will tell him things he knows to be true but wants to hear again. When she is finished telling these things to
the Black Serpent, he will take her and gently place her on a rock with great love and repect. Then, becoming infuriated by what he has heard, he will
head North to join the battle between the Red Serpent and the White Serpent with such speed and fury that he defeats the two battle weary serpents.
When he is done, he will stand on the chest of the White Serpent and boast. He will push out his chest like a conqueror and look around for another
serpent to conquer. He will look to the land of the hilly country and see the Indian boy standing there with his arms folded, looking noble, and know
that the Indian boy is not the one he should fight. He will next look to the East and will be blinded by a light brighter than the sun. The light will
be coming from the East to the West over the water. When the Black Serpent regains his sight, he will become terrified and run back into the sea from
which he came. He will jump into the sea and swim away toward the South, never again to return. The White Serpent will revive, see the light, and make
a feeble attempt to go toward the light. A remnant of the White Serpent will separate from the rest of the people he represents and make its way
toward the hilly country to join the Indian people with a great love like that of a lost brother. The rest of the White Serpent will go into the sea
and, dipping under, will be lost from sight for a time.
Then, suddenly, the white Serpent will reappear on top of the water, swimming slowly toward the light. Deganawida said that the White serpent will
never again be trouble for the Indian people. The Red Serpent will revive and shiver with great fear when he sees the light. He will crawl to the
North and leave a bloody trail. He will never be seen again by the Indian people. Deganawida said that He will be that approaching light and that He
will return to His Indian people. When He returns, the Indian people will be a greater nation than they ever were before!
[edit on 12-6-2010 by Danbones]