Learn a new way to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

Forget the way you've been saying the pledge since you were in grade school, this may be the pledge you will have to learn in the future:

Juro fidelidad a la bandera
de los Estados Unidos de América,
y a la república que representa
una nación bajo Dios,
indivisible cón libertad
y justicía para todós.

Spanish translation of the pledge

A school in Wisconsin has recently defended it's decision to allow students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish.

The Pledge in Spanish Sparks Controversy

A school principal in Wrightsville, Wisconsin, has defended on constitutional grounds the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish at the school. Responding to a letter of protest from the mother of a kindergarten student, Principal Lee Mierow of Wrightsville Elementary School said he wanted to ensure that Spanish-speaking students understood the importance of the Pledge. But he also seemed to suggest students have a constitutionally guaranteed right to recite the pledge in the language of their choice while participating in the ritual at school.

"It is my responsibility as a principal in a public school to give every student the opportunity to learn and grow as a student, no matter what their race or religion," Mierow wrote. While commending the mother for her patriotism, the principal said "the Constitution guarantees the fundamental rights and civil liberties of every person in this country."

The issue arose after the woman attended a school event in which students were invited to recite the pledge in either English or Spanish. She then contacted Fox News radio affiliate WTAQ in Green Bay. She also shared the text of the letter she wrote to the principal.

"Not only does reciting this in Spanish insult our family as American citizens, it is disrespectful to the veterans who have defended our country," she wrote. "English is the primary language in this country. The Pledge of Allegiance was written in English and should be recited in English. No similar accommodations were made for other immigrant patterns in history nor should they be as long as the American flag is flying."

The controversy got the attention of USA English, a Washington, D.C.-based organization whose goal is making English the official language of the United States. The group's CEO, Maurice E. Mujica, issued a statement calling on the school to recognize the importance of a common language.
"For generations, immigrants have migrated to Wisconsin," he wrote. "Over the years, these immigrants have contributed to the unique and vibrant culture of the state as they search for their version of the American dream. Many still read German language newspapers or listen to Spanish language radio, but they never forget that they are in the United States and the importance of learning and speaking English.

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I'm kinda torn on this one. I believe that the pledge should be recited in English but, I wonder what good it does for children who don't understand the words they are saying.

[edit on 6/11/10 by FortAnthem]

reply to post by FortAnthem


The pledge of allegiance is a statist tool of indoctrination.

A pledge of allegiance is an oath of fealty.

I owe fealty to no one.

The public school indoctrinators don't tell you that it was a socialist that dreamed up the pledge as a tool to promote statism.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898). The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of America. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, in a campaign to encourage patriotism and the display of the American flag in public schools.[2][3]

Just think about the words for a minute.

Its pure communist indoctrination.

A brilliant way to promote the State in the minds of young impressionable children. Its something that should be abolished. People should be rallying against the pledge and exposing it for the indoctrination tool it is.

Just think about what happens at baseball games, they play the "national anthem" - another statist tool of indoctrination that promotes fealty to government. Complete with ritualistic overtures of facing and hand gestures.

Professional sports is a statist brainwashing tool and an excuse to promote tribalism and Statist propaganda.

Every day those poor kids go to their communist indoctrination centers and receive a healthy dose of socialist brainwashing agitprop, courtesy of your tax dollars that were appropriated from your slave hide at the point of a gun.

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Some background here, I didn't even know the pledge was created by a socialist when I started to write this post.

What I did know was that it promoted the State, therefore it must be bad.

When one recognizes that the State is the root of all evil, it is amazing what you end up discovering about things you once thought were benign and wholesome.





[edit on 11-6-2010 by mnemeth1]

reply to post by mnemeth1


I completely agree with you on the issues of indoctrination. But let's be real, no one wants to hear that, everyone is pretty much scared of the truth.

But if we really wanted to just look at the issue, I think of it this way, is the language or what their saying more important, everyone has an issue with thinking that immigrants don't appreciate this country and what it stands for anyway, so would it really matter if they say it in spanish?

If I was a non-hispanic and attended a church that only spoke spanish, would the language barrier take away from my faith? Or would it matter? The fact is that we cant really have it both ways. IMO those that are really that concerned with the language of which spanish people are saying it, are not even looking at the importance (to them) of the actual words.

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

I completely agree with you on the issues of indoctrination. But let's be real, no one wants to hear that, everyone is pretty much scared of the truth.

But if we really wanted to just look at the issue, I think of it this way, is the language or what their saying more important, everyone has an issue with thinking that immigrants don't appreciate this country and what it stands for anyway, so would it really matter if they say it in spanish?

If I was a non-hispanic and attended a church that only spoke spanish, would the language barrier take away from my faith? Or would it matter? The fact is that we cant really have it both ways. IMO those that are really that concerned with the language of which spanish people are saying it, are not even looking at the importance (to them) of the actual words.

Since we both agree that the pledge is an evil tool of communist indoctrination, then the logical argument is this:

If there must be a pledge and we have no way of stopping this from occurring within public schools, we should encourage that it only be recited in English to prevent the least possible amount of indoctrination from occurring.

If the Spanish speaking kid can't understand it - good. I don't want him to understand it.


[edit on 11-6-2010 by mnemeth1]

Here's some more on the national anthem.

Hoover was another tyrant of US history, and its not surprising that the same criminal congress that brought us the federal reserve and the income tax also brought us a new statist anthem to sing.

The Star-Spangled Banner" was recognized for official use by the Navy in 1889 and the President in 1916, and was made the national anthem by a congressional resolution on March 3, 1931 (46 Stat. 1508, codified at 36 U.S.C. § 301), which was signed by President Herbert Hoover.

Before 1931, other songs served as the hymns of American officialdom. "Hail, Columbia" served this purpose at official functions for most of the 19th century. "My Country, 'Tis of Thee", whose melody was derived from the British national anthem,[3] also served as a de facto anthem before the adoption of "The Star-Spangled Banner."[4]

Look at the difference in words between the "Star Spangled Banner" and "My Country, 'Tis of Thee"

In "My Country," liberty is the theme.

In "Star Spangled," the national State and the flag is the theme.

en.wikipedia.org...

Of course, I disagree with any ritualistic song being sung in honor of our criminal lawless government.



[edit on 11-6-2010 by mnemeth1]

Here's a suggestion...how about a pledge of allegiance to something we can ALL get behind.

I pledge allegiance to the Earth
From which life here springs forth
And to the Creator, who made it all
One people, under God
Indivisible
With freedom and sanctuary for all

Originally posted by UrbanShaman
Here's a suggestion...how about a pledge of allegiance to something we can ALL get behind.

I pledge allegiance to the Earth
From which life here springs forth
And to the Creator, who made it all
One people, under God
Indivisible
With freedom and sanctuary for all

I pledge allegiance to myself and to defend the property I labor to produce by all necessary means.

I pledge to defend my neighbor and his family from statist aggression if he should do the same for me.

I pledge to price my services fairly, to not steal, and to not use coercive force against my neighbor to get my way.

I pledge to leave my neighbor alone if he wishes and to not send hordes of armed thugs into his life to loot his property at the point of a gun.



I think it is important to note that having a government necessarily means having violence directed at your person. Such violence is totally unnecessary and a crime against humanity. Right now the average American labors 40% of his hours for the government. This is a sin. This is the real crime of government.

Slavery.

We didn't abolish it.

We expanded it to encompass whites as well.



[edit on 11-6-2010 by mnemeth1]

reply to post by FortAnthem

Forget the way you've been saying the pledge since you were in grade school, this may be the pledge you will have to learn in the future:

Sorry, I'm not buying the future comment.

I know Hispanics, especially kids, who speak no Spanish. I know some who know Spanish but will only speak English even if I speak to them in Spanish.

Furthermore, history is on my side. For the entire history of this country, many different languages have been spoken and in the end English has always prevailed and it always will.

Just look at all the countries who have incorporated English, not Spanish, as a second language.

We don't need a national language. English wins hands down.

Recent studies confirm that the children of Spanish-speaking immigrants are learning English. Among children of Hispanic immigrants to the United States, one recent study found that 92 percent speak English well or very well, even though 85 percent speak at least some Spanish at home. Among third-generation Hispanic immigrants (and their descendants), the predominant pattern is "English-only," with no Spanish spoken at home.14 And that trend has actually been accelerating. As the authors of a recent study concluded, "The very high immigration level of the 1990s does not appear to have weakened the forces of linguistic assimilation. Mexicans, by far the largest immigrants group, provide a compelling example. In 1990, 64 percent of third-generation Mexican-American children spoke only English at home; in 2000, the equivalent figure had risen to 71 percent."

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[edit on 11-6-2010 by jam321]