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Originally posted by Ahmose
If people knew the truth about what was really going on with UFO's,
They would sleep much better at night.
"I´ve been a researcher and student of UFO´s for many, many years," Mr. Bigelow said. "Anybody that does research, if people bother to do quality research, come away absolutely convinced. You don´t have to have personal encounters...People have been killed. People have been hurt. It´s more than observational kind of data."
"If you knew the truth about what is going on with the UFOs, you wouldn't be able to sleep at night."
John Lear's Disclosure Briefing
As presented on the 11/2/03 show:
Art Bell: Let's say the government chose me. They were going to use me as an outlet to release this information. Let's just say they did that and they took me to a briefing. Then what John?
John Lear: They whisk you to Washington, DC, you get limo-ed to this building, beautiful building, you go up into this room.
They say, 'Art, you're the guy and if you give us the go ahead, we are gonna release everything we know to the public.
If you decide to go ahead, all major networks will be provided with information on all aspects of the cover up and no type of information will be withheld.
Because of the deal for immunity for all participants of the cover up provides that nothing, no artifacts, no piece of information be withheld.'
So here's what happened, Art. We'll use some videos and stills. Our first UFO recoveries were in the late '30s.
We made a couple in the beginning of the '40s and then came Roswell, which the public found out about. We got 2 live aliens from Roswell. One died shortly there after and one lived till 1956.
And we found out so far there are 18 different alien species that we know about monitoring Earth. Some are good and some are hostile, most are indifferent.
We found out that we are the experimental product, if you will, of an alien race who we never met and we don't know who they are.
All we know is that the Greys are cybernetic organisms, glorified robots if you will, who work here at the behest of their employers monitoring us through abductions.
We were never able to find out what the experiment is all about except that we have been externally corrected about 65 times.
And they, the aliens, refer to us as "Containers." There's been speculation that the souls our bodies contain is the reason for the experiments. But nothing's been proven or determined.
Originally posted by cripmeister
I highly doubt that Mr Bigelow knows more about the subject of UFOs than any of our resident UFOlogists. I have no doubt that he's an eccentric and interesting guy though.
reply to post by InvisibleObserver
just picked up a book about the Skin walker ranch, but I haven't
Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Folks, settle down. This guy doesn't know ANYTHING more that you or I. Anyone with an internet connection can be just as special as this guy concerning this subject. I wouldn't put anymore weight behind this guy than I would your average ATS'er, and you shouldn't either.
Originally posted by 30_seconds
I don't need aliens to scare me enough that I don't sleep at night.
People do that well enough already. I'll worry about the problems I can see.
Originally posted by InvisibleObserver
Thanks for sharing this article.
I just picked up a book about the Skin walker ranch, but I haven't
had time to read it yet.
Originally posted by seentoomuch
I agree with Xfile, Frith, Antar, John Lear and you too, Palasheea, (Yes, I remember our earlier debate on Vallee so I'm including you on this list). After having some sleep and time to think about the interview I'm noticing all of the omissions. Imo he could be a disinfo person (which was ya'll's opinion from the beginning). Perhaps for Robert Bigelow who is working on developing technology for space habitations and Vallee is leading us away from the UFO nuts & bolts findings of NIDs.
Vallee is on the board for NIDs which is owned by Bigelow. NIDs closed shop one day just out of the clear blue sky with no notice, no final summation on their findings. And NIDs though inactive is still existing legally, therefore Vallee is still bound by the non-disclosure agreement. Why keep it legally existing if they had not found something concrete and wanted to keep the non-disclosure en force. No mention of his work with NIDs or Bigelow was mentioned in the interview. And you can be sure none of the content of the interview included any knowledge Vallee had acquired while working for NIDs. In a couple of interviews on the net he told the interviewers he could not answer some of their questions due to the non-disclosure, here's one example:
SR: On those connections – you were a member of the scientific advisory board for the National Institute of Discovery Science during the investigation of the so-called ‘Skinwalker Ranch’. The recent book by George Knapp and Colm Kelleher on this investigation featured a great deal of anecdotal evidence for anomalous craft, strange beings and poltergeist-like phenomenon. From your point of view, do you feel this investigation was a success, and were there any aspects that were of particular interest to you?
JV: I am still a member of that Board, now restructured under Bigelow Aerospace, so I feel bound by the non-disclosure agreement I signed.
Upon final reflection and adding to the disinfo charge imo he said nothing at all definitive in this interview regarding UFOs due to his tendency to agree to something and say it is likely and then 20 minutes later put a caveat on it that would put it in doubt. I felt like I was a ping pong ball being batted back and forth trying to figure out the picture he proposed. I don't know if this is some sort of twisted game of his, playing with the truth or if it is the non-disclosure effect. John Lear had a meeting with him that Vallee lied about and also Lear's friends had the same experience with Vallee. So what should we think about this guy? What should we consider valid in this interview? It is disheartening, thought we'd get some answers from Vallee, they're all in major doubt right now.
And I apologize for my previous posts written within the time of the interview. Many of his stated views changed within the course of the interview and my posts did not reflect them all. I'm not sure of what he believes or what his motivations are. But I do know that his theories morphed every few minutes in the interview.
Also, Vallee is off my list of credible researchers from this moment on. I had hoped Bigelow had released him from the non-disclosure; clearly that did not happen. I wonder if sitting on the board of NIDs has monetary compensation or stock options, lol, that's the motivation I'm seeing at this moment.