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Doe's Account - Conformation of The Afterlife

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posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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Thanks that would be appreciated.

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Namaste1001

Has anyone debunking this actually read it?

I read enough of it to regard it as bunk. The introduction is typical new age nonsense ('everything you know is a lie' type stuff). The "diary" has a mildly interesting plot but it's peppered with banal ideas, tired themes, etc. It seems reminiscent of many ATS threads.

And the overall point serves as "confirmation" of the ancient idea that we all go someplace after death, something that defies the laws of physics, and passes off this fact by using the mysteries of quantum physics to achieve this impossibility. It's the same old nonsense employed by a lot of new age mystics and essentially everyone in the move "What the Bleep Do We Know".

This is a been there, done that kind of book that mimics every theme in the modern new age sphere. I give it two thumbs down

[edit on 11-6-2010 by traditionaldrummer]

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 12:43 PM
for now here is the intro

There is such a thing as real truth. It, even if captured in a subjective narrative, transcends any
expression and survives all assaults. This truth remains ever undaunted. It remains undaunted when
confronted by the theories of the masses, undaunted when threatened by the sharp knife-edges of probability,
and yes it remains undaunted as it stands against the hopes and dreams, preconceptions and prejudices of
human beings. Is it a scary proposition? Even if so, its still true.
We learn by stepping out of ourselves and into our shadows. All of the knowledge that mankind has
garnered and will ever garner has come from a step into that cold, dark twin. Courage is the force we need to
break the dams that limit our knowledge. Thus courage is the force we need to expand: first the courage to
shift from our mental comfort zone into an obscurity and second the courage to imbibe the new knowledge
attained and to dispose of any displaced preconceptions. The most pernicious move in our intellectual career is
the one which leads us to cling to any single proposition so tightly that it may never be opposed. Before we ask
ourselves “what is the truth?”, we need first ask ourselves if we are really ready to accept it.
In the quest for truth, humanity, and very often individual human beings, have found themselves to be
the battlefield in an epic war between science and religion. While some have accused the division of being an
artificial dichotomy, it is definitely undeniable that many fundamental religious claims are in direct contradiction
with the observations of modern science. Could it be however, that what appears to be an obvious conflict, a
vicious fight between the two forces, in actuality is an elegant ballet misinterpreted by an ignorant perspective?
Such may be the reality as for the first time in human history cutting-edge physics has proven a nearly
ubiquitous religious concept: the hereafter.
It was by pure chance that an unusual document would make its way into my hands at about the end
of January of 2009. Donald Pursing, the elder brother of an acquaintance of mine, had recently returned to the
United States from Europe bringing with him an unusual souvenir. Pursing discovered the flimsy, mid-sized
spiral notebook in an inn in Porto, Portugal. There was nothing attractive or unique about it. In fact he reported
that he nearly ignored it and failed to do so merely out of boredom. Once opened however, he was addicted.
He brought it home and the souvenir made its way around his family eventually coming to Tyler,
Donald’s younger brother with whom I am more familiar. It was through Tyler that I learned of his brother’s
discovery. The contents of the notebook show it to be a diary chronicling a physicist ’s life between November
of 2008 and January of 2009. The entries record the events of a veiled physics operation and its immediate
effects on the author’s life. That which has brought the diary to publication lies with its claim that an afterlife has
been scientifically confirmed. While the author does divulge data concerning the instruments and institutions
that took part in the project, he does not disclose much information about the individuals involved especially
himself. Therefore the author is a John Doe.
I developed a strong affinity for the diary as Tyler expected I would. Suspending a project which I
myself was in the middle of, I rerouted my attention to the account and conducted investigations which all have
corroborated its validity. The account is now being brought to the public unadulterated, presented as an exact
photocopy of the original diary. Further investigations on the original document have commenced. Updates on
the investigation will be available at
Note: The first entry had been obviously torn out and reattached, but carries the latest date of all the other entries. This
suggests that the author mindfully returned to the front to formalize his writings by installing an introduction.

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 12:48 PM
I think the biggest problem (and the most obvious) is that the writting style of the scientist who wrote it and the guy that wrote the intro are the same. The other issue i had was the way the whole thing was written, it was not written like a diary or lab notes as there was not much scientific data in there i believe there may have been one or two crude diagrams, but that is it. In the labs i have worked in the note books are pretty much ONLY data. Of the diaries i have read this one looks more like a fiction book that was written as some sort of draft for a book. The author even did things like add "..." indicating some dramatic pause. Who writes in their diary like that? Im not sure if anyone ever played any of the myst games but this reminds me of it.

edit to add:
The upload is still uploading.

[edit on 11-6-2010 by zaiger]

[edit on 11-6-2010 by zaiger]

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 01:06 PM
reply to post by traditionaldrummer

Oh, yeah..ugh.."What the Bleep" indeed.

I read part of the diary. Nothing but convoluted hoohah with way too many forcably "deep" sentences that prove the author has some grasp of creative writing, but goes over the "comfortable, flowing read" Some polishing needed when the actual book gets published.

I DO like the premise though ,as i did with "What The Bleep" (best bit: that old prophet-channelling
woman with the ,obviously botched plastic surgery, babbling on about "shaping your reality, Inner beauty etc. etc. laughed by behind off at her..)

I'll ,indeed, be more exited If they find the Higgs-Boson (and, admittetly even MORE exited if they don't..THEN physics, cosmology etc. could get really REALLY intersting)

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 01:15 PM
Here you guys go.
I was having trouble with the media page and this rapid share can only be downloaded ten times, so first come first serve.

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 01:16 PM
Link works but takes a whhile to start for me.just click and wait a while

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 01:21 PM
Some bad grammar, poor punctuation and a ridiculously small amount of corrections for such a long text. The coherence throughout is a very strong indicator that it isn't a stream of's the culmination of drafting. The final words provide a neat ending (mixed metaphor excluded).

In the even of my failure in Geneva. If this account is unearthed before the world is flooded by flames then I have no doubt that it may be the match to ignite the global inferno.The irony almost begs laughter, but all I can mamnage now are tears. Yet no amount of tears can quench the monster's thirst. The cremation is inevitable.

Terrible Gothic writing!

Being a poor writer doesn't undermine the credibility. The information in the text does...

Page 97 describes the discovery of 'matter-less consciousness' outside the 'membrane of our universe.' A scientist would offer an explanation of the technical means and process of identifying such a thing. He doesn't. If the notebook is a message to the world...a warning...he'd surely provide a means for the world to ascertain its accuracy and credibility?

Skim-reading a couple dozen pages reveals an utter lack of technical terminology. Whoever has written this shows no evidence of a science education.

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 02:16 PM
I'm not going to waste my time reading this, just from the quotes in this thread it should be abundantly obvious to everyone that this was written for a third party to read and not as a journal of recollections for the'scientists' own benefit. As such if he truly was who he claims to be he would have included verifiable scientific data and explanations rather than total BS.

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 02:25 PM

He took it to Jonathan Epic, a retired professor of psychology and close friend of Pursing who in turn took the diary to forensic scientists where its legitimacy was investigated and established.

So a diary allegedly involving physics was found, so it was taken to a psychologist for verification, who then to it to "forensic scientists" to establish its legitimacy? Pardon me while I ell oh ell.

posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 06:58 PM
Well i've read most of it and its clearly a work of fiction.

Still I enjoyed reading it.

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