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Web of Greed: meet some folks of BP's board of directors

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posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 04:30 AM
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The last couple of weeks, I keep hearing people exclaim how they are going to boycott BP and "bring 'em down", or something to that effect. I always wonder if these people realize that many of these corporate executives are non-executive directors on the boards of other corporations, and their money will most likely still end up with them no matter where they're going to get their gas.

If you go to BP's website and check out the portfolio's of BP's board of directors, you'll find all kinds of links to other multinational corporations. If you truly wish to stop generating profit for the people in BP's board of directors, you may need to think about boycotting these other corporations as well. Good luck with that.



For example, on BP's website you'll find that BP's Chief Financial Officer Byron Grote is also a non-executive director at Unilever.

"WHAAAAA??? So every time I eat Ben & Jerry's or purchase any of the hundreds of other Unilever products, some of my money lands in his pocket?"

Yes. Last year, beside the $3,458,000.00 he made at BP, Unilever paid him €93,000.00 director compensation on top of that.

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Or what about BP's Chief Executive of Exploration and Production Andy Ingliss??
Apparently he's a non-executive director over at BAE Systems...

Wiki:

BAE Systems plc is a British defense, security and aerospace company headquartered in Farnborough, Hampshire, England, that has global interests, particularly in North America through its subsidiary BAE Systems Inc. BAE is the world's largest defense contractor as of 2008.[3][4][5] It was formed on 30 November 1999 by the £7.7 billion merger of two British companies, Marconi Electronic Systems (MES), the defense electronics and naval shipbuilding subsidiary of the General Electric Company plc (GEC), and aircraft, munitions and naval systems manufacturer British Aerospace (BAe).



Human rights records: Like many arms manufacturers, BAE has received criticism from various human rights and anti-arms trade organizations due to the human rights records of governments to which it has sold equipment. These include Indonesia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Zimbabwe. BAE's US subsidiary makes several subsystems for F-16s, 236 of which have been supplied to the Israel Defense Forces.[146] [edit]

Nuclear weapons: In 2006, BAE was excluded from the portfolio of the government pension fund of Norway "because they develop and/or produce central components for nuclear weapons".[147] "According to the ethical guidelines for the Government Pension Fund – Global, companies that produce weapons that through normal use may violate fundamental humanitarian principles shall be excluded from the fund."[147] BAE is indirectly engaged in production of nuclear weapons - through its 37.5% share of MBDA it is involved with the production and support of the ASMP missile, an air launched nuclear missile which forms part of the French nuclear deterrent. BAE is also the UK's only nuclear submarine manufacturer and thus produces a key element of the UK's nuclear weapons capability. [edit]

Cluster bombs: BAE has in recent times been criticized for its role in the production of cluster bombs, due to the long term death/injury risks they cause to civilians (they behave similarly to land mines). However, after pressure campaigns from various human rights groups, BAE recently stated it no longer produces land mines or cluster bombs.[148]


Sounds like your typical neighborhood business doesn't it?


Ok, one last look... what about the lady Cynthia Carroll?

Hmmm, director of De Beers SA? That friendly bunch that claims to own the diamond mines in South Africa?

Wiki:

Prior to action being taken by the United Nations Security Council in 2000, De Beers was buying conflict diamonds from guerrilla movements in three African countries, thereby financing regional conflicts.[41] The initial focus of the UN's investigation was on Jonas Savimbi's UNITA movement in Angola, which was found to have bartered uncut diamonds for weaponry, thereby allowing the civil war to continue in 1998 despite international economic and diplomatic sanctions being in effect through United Nations Security Council Resolution 1173.[41][42]



For folks who aren't old enough to remember, De Beers was set up by a colonizer named Cecil Rhodes (yes the same Cecil Rhodes who the prestigious Rhodes Scholarship is named after). He took over what we now call Zimbawe and called it Rhodesia. His De Beers diamond company was and will forever be in many people's minds associated with the brutal Apartheid regime of South Africa.
Source

And guess who else is on the DeBeer board of directors?
Baron David de Rothschild


Anyway, this is just a small collection of a few people from one company.
If you do this for a while, you will soon find yourself in the web of multinational corporate cooperation. It takes a lot more than a trendy boycott to get us out of this mess.

In my opinion, we need to review the laws governing private property of resources and means of production, private wealth accumulation etc.

But the same people who are now screaming about a boycott generally laugh at me when I mention communal ownership of resources, or any other anticapitalist sentiment. They think communism, marxism, socialism and anarchism are all the same, and will all fail.

As long as that is the mainstream perspective on alternatives to capitalism,
the oil and blood will keep flowing.




posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 04:59 AM
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Wow, what a incestuous lot they are. Thanks for bringing this to light and spreading some awareness on how huge companies are ruled by the same set of individuals. Sickening.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:13 AM
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What I find sickening is the anger hostility and pure un-adulterated hatred toward BP by ill informed robot people or should I say sheeple.

So what if these guys got rich good for them. You didn't? That's why your angry.

And just in case it comes up, no I don't work for any large corp. Yes I do sometimes struggle at the end of each month to pay for things. However I don't blame my shortfalls on people richer than me.

Here's your web of greed right back at ya.

[edit on 11/6/2010 by who-me?]



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:25 AM
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You will see this in every major company out there.

How do you think corporations control governments around the world.

You try to make laws that one corporation or group of corporations do not like, lobbyist from companies unrelated in anyway will be after you and there money may go to your opponent the next election,

Corporations cover each other's back with there boards of directors and there ties.

I will bet there are corporate insiders right now working to protect BP in corporations you never have heard of and many likely have connections with the British government.

How many of the people in the British parliament are shareholders in BP.
Or how much BP stock does the British government own. in pension plans or other holding.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by who-me?
What I find sickening is the anger hostility and pure un-adulterated hatred toward BP by ill informed robot people or should I say sheeple.

So what if these guys got rich good for them. You didn't? That's why your angry.

And just in case it comes up, no I don't work for any large corp. Yes I do sometimes struggle at the end of each month to pay for things. However I don't blame my shortfalls on people richer than me.

Here's your web of greed right back at ya.

[edit on 11/6/2010 by who-me?]


Its not that they got rich. Its the means and methods used to get rich, the complete lack of regard for people, animals, nature, environment. THAT is why I am angry, because they put profit before everything else. They are greedy and selfish.

How anyone can defend these monsters is beyond me. but it seems that everywhere I go people always have nothing but good things to say about the truly bad people, and good people are painted as evil because they try to expose evil.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:59 AM
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A lot of big corporations and the execs running them get their profit in rather unethical fashion. DeBeers in South Africa, Shell in Nigeria, Exxon in court after their spill, IG Farben during the Holocaust, Serco and their prisons, etc. etc. etc.

So no, i'm not angry or jealous coz someone else got rich. I'm angry at the stupidity of the masses who are letting the evil and destructive crap happen or worse, justify it.

[edit on 11-6-2010 by Conspiracy Pianist]



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by Firefly_

Originally posted by who-me?
What I find sickening is the anger hostility and pure un-adulterated hatred toward BP by ill informed robot people or should I say sheeple.

So what if these guys got rich good for them. You didn't? That's why your angry.

And just in case it comes up, no I don't work for any large corp. Yes I do sometimes struggle at the end of each month to pay for things. However I don't blame my shortfalls on people richer than me.

Here's your web of greed right back at ya.

[edit on 11/6/2010 by who-me?]


Its not that they got rich. Its the means and methods used to get rich, the complete lack of regard for people, animals, nature, environment. THAT is why I am angry, because they put profit before everything else. They are greedy and selfish.

How anyone can defend these monsters is beyond me. but it seems that everywhere I go people always have nothing but good things to say about the truly bad people, and good people are painted as evil because they try to expose evil.


This is exactly the point its reverse psychology. Whenever you point it out you are jealous, unamerican and any other such tripe that they can scrounge together to hurl at you. It really takes the point home when you have everyday people defending these Mega corporations to their own deteriment, biggest example of this as a group is poor sothern republicans. Most of the people they defend are more than greedy and selfish, they are outright criminals who use many means their defenders would find sickening to create wealth.

It sickens me that these same people hate welfare, but corporate welfare is somehow okay. They decry socalism et al, yet these companies are linked in a interdependent socialist structure, insuring themselves and such. Once again its ok for them but do anything for people and your a Communist. Brainwashing and brainrinsing at its finest.


[edit on 11-6-2010 by ISHAMAGI]



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 06:11 AM
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JAY WIEDNER IS SPEAKING on another radio show
Slumbrege asked for a chopper from BP to get them off the rig when they saw what the pressure was so high
bp refused
they got a PRIVATE chopper out there
he says if you live within 50 miles of the coast you might think about taking a vacation
the source for this just had his web site suspended as he speaks

SO LINDSAY WILLIAMS mention of OCCULT appears to be what i said earlier A LIABILITY COVER UP

what does that say about the people who later died?
how much do they care about ANY people
THEY DON'T

that rig will soon wear out then the ONLY thing that will stop it is a NUKE
the oil flow will increase in size from the scouring
the water will flow down after the pressure equalizes
the water will be super heated
she will blow
the tsunami will blow the crap miles in land and that land will be poisoned for ages
a month or less for the well head pipe
(NOT JUST MY OPINION)
DR wickstrom
a scientist said 18 months to spread oil through all the oceans
most people won't hear this
lindsey williams just said it was OCCULT knowledge that led them to sell off prior to the blow out
THATS an OBVIOUS COVERING UP RIGHT THERE
he gets his info from an OIL EXEC.

when it is OBVIOUS that THEY JUST DID SIMPLE MATH

SO THEY ARE TO BLAME RIGHT THERE

of course the others are to blame
the financial sell off
and the derivitve trade of just before the rig went down
and not regulating the safty
who paid for thier campagns
heavily

there is lots of blame to go around

they knew from the flow and the scouring factor that this was going to blow
this is NOT their first rig and pipe
the russians have done this on land and had to use a nuke ti shut it done when it bluw
this is under a mile of sea water at 9 lb a gal(i think)
that adds to the pressure like sqeezing a zit (they say)

they have invested heavilly in green watch what happens when they start up the CARBON CREDITS trading it/ll be a chicago exchange I bet
MOB which is why OBANA was installed


[edit on 11-6-2010 by Danbones]

[edit on 11-6-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Conspiracy Pianist
The last couple of weeks, I keep hearing people exclaim how they are going to boycott BP and "bring 'em down", or something to that effect. I always wonder if these people realize that.....


I wonder if people realize that if they choose to boycott by not visiting a BP gas station that they're only hurting their fellow countrymen since the gas stations are privately owned. Such action will punish the wrong people.

I wonder if people realize that oil companies sell each other their supplies regularly. Let's say BP boycotts result in a huge stock of unsold BP gasoline. Guess what? They sell it to the other oil companies to sell at their gas stations. This happens all the time.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 08:45 AM
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Very good information and thank you. Traditional drummer makes a good point in that over 90% of US gas stations are privately owned. Boycotting Bp only hurts them, not Bp itself.
What they corporations have is an economic knife at the throat of most everyone. Back when the bank bailouts were going on there was one investment company that would be recieving funds. I was screaming bloody murder about until I found out that that very company handles my father's pension! Screw them and I screw my own father.
Also, if we were to bankrupt an unethical corporation what happens? Well, all the workers lose their jobs, the company goes bankrupt and the execs get their golden parachutes (we saw this at Enron).
Sad fact is, we can't get at these people and make them pay for their abuse of their fellow man or environment. Not with the system we have today so forget about boycotts.
The solution lies in how the money system itself works, better explained by someone smarter than myself.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 08:47 AM
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Good sleuthing work there, pianist!

At least now humanity has a better view on some of those incompetent authoritarians whom had been ruling the world and made a MESS out of it.

They and their bootlickers will go all out to protect their wealth and priviledges, hire the best people, attract some of the bootlickers wannabes here climaxing and flooding this site with tales and half truths to do their dirty job for them as the US administration is now engaging in a battle royale with them to cut their powers down.

For these past months, everyone had seen how the stock market casino had been manipulated, how Europe had to bow to them as cut social spending even risking social disorders, and even attempts to create wars.

These are but their prelude to the actual thing if the US administration does not change tack, and remain subservient to the masters. A message had been passed by the masters.

So too had humanity's message been passed to them. Humans are not gonna be taken in as before with falsehoods, nor will surrender without a fight!

Take a good look at their faces and many more to appear in time soon. When SHTF, before killing your brother to defend your loved ones, make sure you take those animals and their generations down together with us all as well, just as they had attempted to wipe us and our next generations out.

As I said before, when push comes to shove, no one wins. May the inept masters realize this as they play their manipulative games today.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Ha! Even as I write, the masters' bootlickers - the British press, are attacking the US representative - President Obama - and claim his remarks were irresponsible towards BP.

IRRESPONSIBLE? Who is more irresponsible? The US President or BP?

When the British press starts it attack in this manner, it only shows the masters desperate hands at work for all to see.

British, Americans, Iranians, Europeans, Asians, Indians, Russians, Chinese, etc, etc - we are ONE human race and must NEVER again be manipulated, more so by those inept douchebags and their bootlickers.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:16 PM
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Ha! Even as I write, the masters' bootlickers - the British press, are attacking the US representative - President Obama - and claim his remarks were irresponsible towards BP.


It doesn't take much time to find a connection between the directors of a big corporation and the mainstream media.

Let's take BP's non-executive director Sir William Castell for example.... He is a director at General Electric... and General Electric owns 80% of NBC Universal.

Does that mean he controls every reporter, newscast, every story? No, but it sure as hell doesn't mean objective reporting either!



Again, go at this for a day and you will see the bigger picture emerge... a picture that tells the story of why more than half of the world's wealth is owned by less than 2% of the population.

With the ill effects of poverty ranging from infant starvation to horrendous warfare there is no doubt in my mind that this has got to change. There is no justifying it, especially since most of this wealth is passed on from generation to generation, and no person 'deserves' billions if that means that a billion persons 'deserve' nothing.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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This has been an excellent, if short, expose thread. Congrats to the OP.

Knowing the interrelations between the kingpins and the web of ownership and control, I still believe in boycotts, but perhaps slightly differently.

Instead of boycotting only BP, all oil and gas companies need to be hit. Look at the chart posted by another here. The US consumes a full quarter of all the oil product sold in the world. The average Joe in the US is duty bound to reduce the amount of oil and gas they use and thus the amount of money they add to the coffers of the already rich.

Yes, boycott Tom and Jerry's too if they sold out to the unscrupulous mega multi-national corp. There is always the home ice-cream maker and local organic dairy -- well maybe not always, but an effort can be made in that direction.

There is alot that can be done without necessarily screwing someone you love. Sure, some pain is going to be unavoidable, but we can't just throw our hands up and say its too big to tackle. Chip, chip, chip away at the structures that holds up the scoundrels. We have the means in the way we spend our money - or don't.

[edit on 6/14/2010 by wayno]



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