It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Originally posted by gncnew
A cool book - "The Fall of Lucifer" by Wendy Allen is something you may want to look into. Presents a side to the commonly accepted story of Satan that looks much different. To me it's a picture much more in line with an all-Loving God that hurts for his children the way a Father hurts for his sons and daughters.
could you give us a synopsis, perhaps?
i'm interested in hearing what it is about, but i doubt i'd have time to read it these days, no matter how interesting.
Originally posted by troubleshooter
reply to post by gncnew
I think your colloquial historical overview is theologically correct.
All you need to add is the role of pre-deluge hybridization of man...
...and the role of Israel in the genetic preservation of man to get to Messiah.
Then link this to modern day abductions and breeding...
...and the 'alien hypothesis' presented in sci-fi since the 1950's.
And then you have your 'behind the scenes' playing out right now in contemporary history.
Originally posted by teraform
reply to post by queenannie38
There is a tribe called the Yezidi,they belive that Satan did the right thing by not subbmitng to Adam
Furthermore, the Yazidi story regarding Tawûsê Melek's rise to favor with God is almost identical to the story of the jinn Iblis in Islam, except that Yazidis revere Tawûsê Melek for refusing to submit to Adam, while Muslims believe that Iblis' refusal to submit caused him to fall out of Grace with God, and to later become Satan himself.
Tawûsê Melek is often identified by Muslims and Christians with Shaitan (Satan). Yazidis, however, believe Tawûsê Melek is not a source of evil or wickedness. They consider him to be the leader of the archangels, not a fallen angel. They also hold that the source of evil is in the heart and spirit of humans themselves, not in Tawûsê Melek. The active forces in their religion are Tawûsê Melek and Sheik Adî.
Mabey he did get a raw deal.
[edit on 10-6-2010 by teraform]
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
LUCIFER or SATAN um just asken please. Are your speaking of LUCIFER the brightest or SATAN the darkest or are they the same to you, friend? Not even derailing this thread as it was well distributed. I like they way you present the names of fallens and how they were under the KING of fallen 1z and just wanted to see how you viewed NATAS and LUCI as 1 or 2. s&f for the efforts.