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So in other words America is a weak link to you because it fights 'vastly inferior armys'. Exactly what army isnt inferior to Americas?
Have you ever heard of the cold war? America was engaging russia with 'unrestricted warfare'. America did the smart thing and collapsed the russian economy without ever risking an american soldier, without ever having to fire a shot in hostility, thus keeping the world from a nuclear metldown..
What? What in the hell are you talking about? You must have something else on the mind/
In a conventional war with the US, china would get its assed handed to it. I am not promoting a war with china. But conventional warfare is where america stands alone.
I feel that China would be a much more effective force if they cut down the PLA. They just have to many ppl in the PLA.
Well incase you dont know, Osama is running for his life right now. 9/11 was the day osama signed his own death warrant. He cant be to damn smart.
The original poster probably wont be reading what your typing. This is an old thread that was dug up.
Chinas economy is growing fast sure. Thanks in large part to all the slave labor
I honestly do hope the best for china. They do have good ppl. Hopefully soon enough they will deal away with there cruel and unjust government.
Indeed history doesnt lie. Communism will fall sooner rather then later.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Seriously, can this thread be locked now? It's served it purpose, for however brief a time, now it's just an off topic pissing contest.
Originally posted by sino
Chinas economy is growing fast sure. Thanks in large part to all the slave labor
oh ... really ... do u know how much I earn an hour ... it's no doubt double you at least ...
oh ... we don't need your hope ... because we are already on our way ...
oh ... my god ... when people can stop their imagination ( I don't want use the word I previous used unless if you like that) ... i really know you are very angry with China's growing ... I can understand ....
but relax ... we won't hurt u
I earn $15 an hour ...
Originally posted by sino
I earn $15 an hour ...
wow .... 15$ .... when we really work, then tell me how much you earn ...
and for your rest of words .... tell you what ... you are actually support my point ... suppose you said all true ... that's why China still keep doing and keep developing ... I doubt where america can go and can be if China didn't have that ... problem never matter ... the matter is if we don't know the problem ... fortunally we know them all, we all know that ... again ... when the problem solved where we can find america ... but I know you hope China never solve that problem ... but the fact is the last 20 years we solve a lot problems .... we are continuing ... good luck for america
Originally posted by semperfoo
I dont earn 15 dollars a day or in a week unlike some of the more fortunate chinese who do (With the unfortunate ones earning that much money in a two week to four week period.)but I EARN that much in 1 HOUR, 60 minutes. Now, like I said, for a college student that isnt bad. Its not great but it could be worse.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Seriously, can this thread be locked now? It's served it purpose, for however brief a time, now it's just an off topic pissing contest.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Somebody here said that there is little or no use of composites in the J-10 airframe..
Are you sure?
Wouldn't the exclusion drastically increase clean take-off weight?
Also there are RCS consideration w/o composite usage.
I'm assuming RAM coating is a given at least?
wow .... 15$ .... when we really work, then tell me how much you earn ...
Whoa, You just kicked your own ass with that statement..
I dont earn 15 dollars a day or in a week unlike some of the more fortunate chinese who do (With the unfortunate ones earning that much money in a two week to four week period.)but I EARN that much in 1 HOUR, 60 minutes. Now, like I said, for a college student that isnt bad. Its not great but it could be worse.
Also... Why in the world would I be jealous of a third world nation? I live in a country who has the LARGEST ECONOMY on the face of the earth. Im quite content with my country, not yours. So forgive me for NOT being jealous...
Im having a hard time deciphering your english so im going to keep this short, sweet and to the point.
I honestly hope no ill will towards the chinese ppl. But your government, like it has been proven in the past will democratize or it will fall. The fairtax will hurt the chinese economy. Its a proven fact. It will make americas economy stronger, but at the expense of the chinas economy and many other nations economys. It will suck jobs that had once been outsourced from america back in to the US. Americas economy is expected to grow 10.5 % in the first year under the fairtax. And is expected to double Americas current economic size by 2015. Now im not one to get into pissing contest but that will pretty much leave you ChinComs in the dust.
Good luck indeed....
Originally posted by Daedalus3
ATS is witnessing an influx of chinese on its fora like never before!!
They're trying to overwhelm the web by using the Tibetian invasion method!!
Just cram the place with Han!!
This is hilarious..
Haven't seen an arguementative chinese on ATS in a long time!!
Welcome sino!! welcome..
let the entertainment begin!!
In July 2005, China ordered an additional 100 AL-31FN engines for more J-10 productions. Some reports suggested that these could be the improved model with increased thrust and possibly a fully variable, all-aspect thrust vector control (TVC) nozzle. Lyulka-Saturn demonstrated a TVC-equipped AL-31FN during the 2002 Zhuhai Air Show. The TVC capability would further enhance the aircraft's manoeuvrability.
Shenyang-based AVIC1 Aviation Engine Institute has been developing the indigenous WS-10A turbofan engine, which is also known as ‘Taihang’ in its commercial name. Reportedly based on some AL-31F technologies, the engine is rated at 73.5kN dry and 110kN with afterburning.
The WS-10A development was completed in December 2005 and the engines may be ready for batch production soon. It was reported that the later variants of the J-10 and J-11 fighters will be powered by the WS-10A.
A two-seat J-10B fighter-trainer version first flew in December 2003, and in early 2006 Jane's reported that a more advanced version of the J-10 is planned. Russian sources told Jane's the new J-10 version is called the Super-10, and has a more powerful engine, thrust-vector control, stronger airframe and passive phased-array radar.
The new Chinese fighter-bomber today represents little threat to the Russian share of the fighter market. Even in China the J-10 is unlikely to compete with the license-produced Su-27 or the imported Su-30MK. However, everything about the current version of the J-10 that we have seen says that it is a transitional model. Already Chengdu is moving toward a two-engine version that would incorporate LO geometry and expanded air-to-ground capability.
Looking at the striking progress of the J-10 (especially in comparison to Russia's own slow-paced development of the next-generation interceptor MFI and the attack aircraft LFS) it should be expected that the future development of the J-10 may be only 3-6 years away. And this will be the aircraft that may eventually encroach on Russia's traditional fighter export market and not just Russia's. This may happen sooner than many Russian and Western analysts believe today. For Russia the J-10 and its derivatives may be what the MiG-15 was for the West half-a-century ago: a rather unpleasant surprise.
Originally posted by sino
normally, I don't response pointless post, as like this one ... and again ... like I always say ... let me say it clearly this time ... one of the problem america has is they have too much imagination --- say some words just for them to feel good ...
Originally posted by kilcoo316
I'm sure developments to the airframe will include greater composite use, and RAM - but you don't run before you can walk. The J-10 is the smart thing to do (from the Chinese perspective), make a simple straightforward machine that can be improved upon in tandem with a growing knowledge base.
Again nobody is going to buy the J-10 unless it does some aggressive publicity: detailed specs,airshow appearances, air exercises etc.
Originally posted by sino
wow .... 15$ .... when we really work, then tell me how much you earn ...
at the beginning, I thought you are smart than what I think, and will know what I was really saying ... " when YOU really work, then tell me how much you earn ... " ... so you are really not something and same to your country. China stood as a leading civilization for thousand years, and we will be again ... 'jealous' never in my dictionary, indeed ....
(added after edit) I don't like tell you this. as an expert, I worked in Asia, Europe and North America, I do not need tell you how much I earn, and I hope you can own a business later ...
oh ... you got nothing to say ...
I honestly hope no ill will towards the Chinese people. But your government, like it has been proven in the past will democratize or it will fall. The fairtax will hurt the chinese economy. Its a proven fact. It will make americas economy stronger, but at the expense of the chinas economy and many other nations economys. It will suck jobs that had once been outsourced from america back in to the US. Americas economy is expected to grow 10.5 % in the first year under the fairtax. And is expected to double Americas current economic size by 2015. Now im not one to get into pissing contest but that will pretty much leave you ChinComs in the dust.
Good luck indeed....
you know what ... that's what I know the real problem america has ... you don't know what the problem you have ... but we do ...
(added after edit) my government are great ... in this world ... there are no too much government like our always say no to america ... and america has nothing to do with it ... what you know about our government is only based on your media ...
you quit
normally, I don't response pointless post, as like this one ... and again ... like I always say ... let me say it clearly this time ... one of the problem america has is they have too much imagination --- say some words just for them to feel good ...