J-10,from China,I am proud of it, page 20

Originally posted by popeye0314
2 billion people is a lot of people. Don't poke the sleeping dragon.
Can you even imagine what kind of war machine China could put into motion. They have already bought all of our steel and other resources and have the labor force to triple our military in a matter of months. Not to mention that the chinese are a very intelligent people. For years they have produced goods and shipped them to the U.S. and we have bought everything the could produce. Try finding something at the store thats not made in china. Come on, you guys reading this have to reach to the next level of thinking here. China has already beaten our economy by selling us all this stuff we dont really need and all we do is say "charge it". This is like a big chess game, and we forgot about looking ahead. They have our money. Then we outsourced all the manufacturing jobs to 3rd world countries, try putting an order into china for o-rings to build your next missle after you go to war. O.k., on to missle defense. Missle what? We rely on GPS and the notion that no one has a super sonic missle. Where do you think the GPS components come from? What happens when a nuke is detonated in the atmosphere? No GPS in war with Russia or China. Russia has super sonic missles which means China probably has them too. So, no missle defense in war with Russia or China. The whole nuke thing is a bad deal. So to say we wouldn't be able to defeat China is the wrong question. They have already hurt us, we just haven't admitted it yet. And the tag team combo of Russia and China would be horrific. Anyone who still thinks the U.S. will win by military strength alone has forgotten about the real war of the countries. Do you think the USSR fell because they were attacked?

Actually Chinas population is about 1.4 billion ppl. But lets try to stay on topic here. Lets not start a china versus america thread. Lets try and respect the posters original topic. which is about the J-10

However, with all that said, I cant let the above rubbish go uncontested. China has over 700,000,000 impoverished citizens. An estimated 300,000,000 drink unsafe and contaminated water. These problems coupled with pollution and aids, with pollution causing health problems on a massive scale, and with aids which is spreading all over chinese country side. To be honest, and this is not a knock on china, but China has a long ways to go before they become a 'developed nation'. And what makes you think china would use its entire population to fight a war in the first place? What makes you think the whole of china would want to fight? And what would they fight with? Bamboo sticks? Shovels? Sticks? What? You dont honestly think china could equip there entire population do you? They cant even feed there general population and give them the bare necissitys to live a normal life, let alone be able supply all 1.4 billion of them with weapons. Where would they get all the weapons? How do you know the ppl of china would want to fight a war? How would china supply/resupply that many ppl? How about keep them fed during time of war? Im no general but It wouldnt be hard to go after the supply lines eventually starving china. But you wouldnt be able to supply that many ppl let alone resupply them.

There are alot of problems with your scenario that arnt being taken into account here. And im not saying the US could kick chinas butt or anything. Im not trying to promote a war here unlike some ppl are doing.

In the modern era, numbers do not make a great succesful military. Your scenario would work if we were in the mid-evil-century. Numbers mattered back then. But those days are long gone. In a war with China it would be a bloody war for china. Many in the PLA are malnutritioned and ill equipt with outdated weapons resulting in weapons that dont work. China is advancing on certain levels, yes but they have a long ways to go atleast in military terms to equal that of the US.

And to your outsourcing of american manufactureing. Follow the links in my sig.