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The "real" sepertation of church and state

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posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 10:38 PM
OK First I know this subject has been on lots and lots of forums, but to me everyone looks it it in one light.
That the seperation of church and state gives people the right to NOT have crosses, the ten commandments ect. on federal land ie.. courts, forest's, post offices yada yada yada.
I interpet the law as this---
When we tried to seperate from England We didnot want the church to be supreme, above the law or the final decision.
They were tired of all the laws of the land being over ruled by the church/the final say. And that is the reason for the seperation of church and state!!!
Not hanging the 10 commandments in the courthouse, or a cross out in the woods at a federal national park. This country was founded on the belief in God(which to me keeps people humble )Which a good thing. Now whether you believe in a "higher power" or not you should not be so sensitive about an inantament object. By leting it get your google you are giving this object power over you.
Now personaly I think people just need to get over it. I mean freedom of speech is a big farce only comediens have free speech LoL. So I hope no one took offence to this post!!!

posted on Jun, 10 2010 @ 12:11 AM
i only took offense to your spelling!

really tho, its easy to misspell i know but it really takes away from the message when you cant even spell the words in the title right.

posted on Jun, 10 2010 @ 12:25 AM
had to read it 3 times to understand... you know freedom works both ways (or it should) and there are only two options,

1. hang crap at home if you want to
2. hang crosses in public places but.. next two few hundred other symbols

but what rly sux is when you are atheist like I am, your're always screwed.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 11:43 AM
That was part of my point is why let it have power over you, if not to your liking avoid it

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 11:50 AM
reply to post by des9996

that wasnt a reply though, your contributed nothing. Usually when I post something remotely like that I dont even get to post it.
Anyway what are your thoughts on the thread

posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:34 PM
reply to post by des9996

Sorry it was a typo not a mispelling, but I'm so over it TE HE HE

posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 01:13 AM
Let us see what the Constitution ACTUALLY states.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

So let us break it down, it is only 16 words long, cannot be that hard.

First component of the sentence-
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
Pretty self explanatory, no law to be written that supersedes one religion over another or that the government enforces as the government's preferred religion. Also again, the Congress will make no law.
Second component of the sentence-
Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Now, this is where the government has been messing up IMO. The separation of Church and State came from a Supreme Court opinion, which then began the downward spiral in idiocy.
It simply states that Congress SHALL NOT prohibit the free exercise of religion. IMO that has been completely ignored. Do not like what someone is espousing, SO WHAT? Do not listen to it. I have never seen an amendment that states you have the right to not be offended. If there is, please tell me where that is written.

Now, the part that the drives me crazy. The part that has people like teachers or anyone paid by the government told they are not allowed their free exercise of religion.

Again I ask you, where exactly does it say that someone that works in the government does not have the same rights as you and me.

Especially now that the government is pretty much taking over everything. Hell, the government owns Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. They own 97% of the mortgages in the country, hence they own 97% of the homes in the US. Hence, if you follow the government sycophants that want to destroy religion, anyone with a mortgage owned by the government better not have a cross hanging in their home. They better not pray in their home.


[edit on 7/29/2010 by endisnighe]

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