Odd public housing rule that makes 3 people share one bedroom

reply to post by hotpinkurinalmint


sigh we are all humans; we all need to realize that we need to give each other a fair judgement at least.

reply to post by dreamseeker


Are you judging yourself for judging others for judging you? I thought judging was wrong?

reply to post by brainwrek
WHINING? HUH?
NO way! You are being way too harsh. Are you really such an arrogant a hole? FOR REAL?
Are you joking?
What planet are you from?
You must just agree with the status quoe or soceity? You really don't make sense!

Personally I am actually surprised thet they are willing to let an unmarried couple live in the same section 8 housing unit, this would have been against the rules at one time. The Lady should be eligible for housing subsidy for herself and her child, foster or not if she has already assumed legal guardianship if she has not assumed legal guardianship she is eligible for subsidy for herself only the child is not considered. The disabled fellow should be eligible for his own subsidy for his own apartment.

While I am not unsympathetic to thier situation anytime you ask for government assistance you have to deal with thier rules wether you like them or not.

reply to post by hotpinkurinalmint


we could go on and on about this. It is a circuluar arguement.

reply to post by DarkStormCrow


Well of course welfare implies sympathy doesn't it?
He does not want to live alone due to his sugery coming up. He would have to wait at least 6 months for housing because there is a waiting list.
I really thought that the recession was changing people's hearts about the poor and unforunate. I thought the human mind set was starting to evolve. It is hard to see outside of my spiritual beliefs because I believe in a different society not the one we live in now.
What if he was just a male room mate. Is that not allowed?
He is the other foster parent. They will be getting married in about a year; they just need to get some money together to have a Jewish wedding.

[edit on 9-6-2010 by dreamseeker]

reply to post by brainwrek


In all seriousness, there are sometimes wait lists for Section 8 or public housing. People may wait weeks or even months for the privilege of sharing a 2 bedroom apartment with four or five other people.

Beggars cannot be choosers. If someone does not like their subsidized housing, there are literally hundreds of people who will take their space in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by vyrox
reply to post by brainwrek

 

You may not have ever been exposed to the mindset, but they honestly, 100% believe that hundreds of years ago, an omnipotent creator came down from the heavens and gave them a set of moral laws to live by that, if followed, would grant them passage into an eternal paradise. Consider that they literally and honestly believe that with all of their hearts. He did not choose his religion just to be obstinate, He HONESTLY, TRULY BELIEVES THAT. It's not a matter of choice, if you believe something, you follow it. That's all.

Not that I'm questioning it myself- I'm a christian (ish)

Thats all fine and well until it begins to infringe upon the rights of others, or cost the taxpayer money. At that point, they have a choice: Follow their beliefs and live with the consequences, or suck it up and take what you can get.

reply to post by dreamseeker


I'm arrogant for expecting people to be responsible and make smart choices?

I'm arrogant for bringing up the unconstitutionality of such a program and expecting people to be happy with what they can get instead of wanting more and more?

I'm arrogant for pointing out your hypocrisy?

I should be the one asking you what planet you are from.

Try educating yourself on a topic before choosing to debate it. It would do you a world of good.

reply to post by brainwrek


Once again he paid taxes too. Housing should be based upon a person's income anyways. Yes we have too many taxes but just think about the poor who pays those taxes yet has less money to afford bills.

reply to post by brainwrek


Once again he paid taxes too. Housing should be based upon a person's income anyways. Yes we have too many taxes but just think about the poor who pays those taxes yet has less money to afford bills.

reply to post by dreamseeker


My suggestion is that they get the el cheapo justice of the peace wedding and go reapply for the subsidy, They can do the religious wedding in the future, that might get them a 2 bedroom via the government rules, but really it depends on the locale they are in. Many states do not allow unmarried adults to share a section 8 subsidy. No live in boyfriends or girlfriends or they lose the subsidy is how it is in most locales.

Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint


Beggars cannot be choosers. If someone does not like their subsidized housing, there are literally hundreds of people who will take their space in a heartbeat.

That was my point, They should be happy they are getting anything, and not whining for more.

Originally posted by dreamseekerHer child is a foster child and must have her own bedroom. She is working to adopt her. Her finace is an orthodox jew and does not believe in prematrial relations. He also does not believe in sharing a room with her until they are married.

They asked for a three bedroom but get a one bedroom.

I suggest they go camping for a week in a National Forest using a 7 foot x 7 foot Coleman 3-man dome tent. The "Jew" can hang a tapestry as a room divider and sleep head to toe with the lady in his own sleeping bag if he thinks it will make Yahweh happy. The lady might want to pick up a copy of "Attachment Parenting" and try spooning the orphan child... a little co-sleeping would probably do the babe right.

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Methinks after a week in the woods they will come to appreciate what they have.

I sleep in ONE room with the mother of my child, my toddler, 2 cats, and a dog. Momma and I aren't "legally" married, but I can read the Torah, King James, or the Lotus Sutra any time with a clear conscience.



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Originally posted by dreamseeker
reply to post by brainwrek

 

Oh my mistake; you are an idoit! What are you some sort of elist that believes only the rich should live well?
I am educating myself; with a master's in psychology.
This has more to do with human compassion and that can't be taught.

Surely even you can see the humor in you calling me an idiot while misspelling the word right?

I am very far from an elitist, I'm just tired of people like you wanting to be compassionate with other peoples money.

Since youre so damn compassionate, why dont you cough up a hundred bucks or so every month to help your friend?

reply to post by brainwrek


They are taking it but will try to get a bigger place. THEY ARE NOT BEGGARS! Welcome to the USA the new russia right?
IN communist russia they had many people living in one house. If this is what the USA is going to become I want no part of it.
YOU ARE ABSURD!

Hope you guys stop trading barbs.

From experience being sick, I had to provide proof upon medical proof to get benefits from the state. It was a very degrading process, but what can one do when they are disabled. The state is pretty thorough with its checks and balances.

Now, looking back, I don't care how people may have viewed me. I did what I had to do to survive.

As for poor people, we have the obligation (IMHO) to place families in affordable housing and safe circumstances. The real estate market is still way too high. How does a minimum wage earner afford housing with a family?

Remember when it only took one wage earner to own a home? Those days are gone due to our corrupt capitalism.

Guess you can call me a liberal/socialist. I'm starting to view Hugo Chavez as a hero.

I'm having a cocktail right now. It probably shows.

reply to post by dreamseeker


I don't think this guy wants your friend to sleep in raw sewage. He just wants them to be reasonably comfortable.

Three people do not need three bedrooms to be reasonably comfortable. As others have pointed out, two adults and one child can be reasonably comfortable in a one bedroom apartment. This is especially true if they can convert a living room into a bedroom for the child.