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posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Target Earth
reply to post by MrXYZ
 

What has 8 years of Bush brought us? How much better off are you under Obama?
Obama isn't fit to tie Bush's shoes. He is a far worst president. but to keep blaming Bush isn't gonna help anything... you know who I see in the Oval Office now, Obama...
Who do I see dragging this country down, Obama...It is one disaster after another...
We had 8 pretty good years under bush we we're all working... living good lives
now all my friends are getting the houses took from them, cause they can't find a job...
because the private sector is being destroyed... come on



Wait...you are blaming Obama for the financial crisis??? The crisis that was the results of years of deregulation of the financial sector? I definitely don't agree with a lot of Obama's policies, but saying that he's the one dragging the country down and that he's responsible for your friends losing their houses or not finding a job is beyond stupid. I guess you never studied economics, so I won't blame you...but the downfall of the economy isn't Obama's fault.

Wanna know what caused it??

1) Deregulation: The financial institutions were allowed to self regulate themselves. Yeah, the so called free market doesn't really work because companies don't act logically, they act out of greed. "Free market" is just a theoretical concept like "communism"...it might look good on paper, but it doesn't work. It doesn't work because us humans aren't always driven by logic.

2) Creation of complicated derivatives that only 1% of the people trading them really understood.

3) The rating agencies didn't understand those packaged derivatives...and guess who came to their rescue and "explained" them how they worked. YES, the same companies who developed them!! That's why we ended up with governments, and large companies investing in AAA rated derivatives that were at best C-class.

4) Overleveraged deals!! When people still had a brain, they used sensible debt/equity ratios...but they got greedy, and assumed the boom would last forever...which lead to crazy debt equity ratios. That's fine as long as the economy plays along, but the second it doesn't, the whole house of cards dies.

5) Unethical behavior on Wall Street. Financial institutions were selling derivatives KNOWING they're crap...and then bet against them. I know because I worked for them for a couple of years and made a lot of money in the process. Trust me when I say this, the world has no clue how much people working for those companies have been laughing while betting against the crappy stuff they sold. THAT'S how we made our money...and the government allowed it because we had the strongest lobbyists.

6) I already mentioned deregulation, but I have to mention it again just to make a point. Financial institutions were allowed to hand out NEGATIVE AMMORTIZATION LOANS! Yes, you could get a loan, and you wouldn't have to pay it back for a very long time...the interest would just accumulate. They also weren't forced to make thorough background checks. So the guy working at McDs making $5.5/hr was able to get $300k loans...guess what happens when hundreds and thousands of people suddenly can't pay back those loans. YES, the financial institutions fail...and drag everyone down with them. And before you say "they're stealing my house"...NO they're NOT!! YOU bought a house with BORROWED money...guess what happens if you can't pay back what you borrowed. Yes, they will take back the collateral, which never really belonged to you because you didn't buy it with YOUR money.

So, before you come on here spouting crap about how it's Obama's fault that your mates are losing their jobs and houses, go take a class in economics! It's not his fault that due to deregulation caused by previous presidents retarded people were able to get several credit cards and mortgages that they would never be able to pay back.

And before you start talking about "Obama's spending too much...which president ran up a higher debt than any president in history? YES, your buddy Bush...the one who made us all happy and prosperous. What a load of bull#!

It's people like you who blindly buy into Palin's "it's all Obama's fault" speeches. All she does is divert your anger about losing jobs or your house away from the real criminals who caused the collapse...the GOP with it's deregulation policies (and to a limited extent the democrats as well), and the large financial institutions on Wall Street. Guess which party watered down the financial reform bill until Wall Street started laughing at it...the GOP!! I have friends at Goldman who are laughing like mad because they KNOW nothing will change or infringe on their power. And they're being supported by certain politicians. If you check out the votes on the bill, you realize that the people who killed many of the necessary regulations are members of the GOP...the same party your buddy Bush belongs too.

[edit on 9-6-2010 by MrXYZ]




posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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Pfffffttt..
the answer is so much easier than your long winded plagiarized post.
What caused it? three words, "Queen, Barney, Frank"
THAT IS WHAT CAUSED IT



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Lindsey Lohan's bank account is bigger then mine too. Pretty sure I could beat her in trivia.

Don't forget Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

Thanks for playing.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Just Wondering
It is funny watching people call her stupid. I would like for you to compare your bank account with hers and then call her stupid


Yeah cause we all know intelligence is measured by money in the bank.

Smart attitude, I guess Soulja Boy, Lil Wayne and all of the clown rappers are smarter than Nikola Tesla!


I can't believe what I'm hearing, but go right ahead.. fall for the bipartisan trick again, 8 years of Bush wasn't enough.. 4 years of Obama will not be enough. America will move right on to the next giant idiot they find... if most of the population doesn't get a clue and wake up before the next presidential election I really don't see a America being the same ever again.

Yes Target Earth, she is a complete idiot. I've seen speeches by George Bush from the early 90's where he was more well spoken than Palin. Either way, they're both blundering idiots compared to Obama.
Obama was just the ethnic, liberal, slick, black guy they pulled out to lessen the legacy of Bush, buy some time.. But did things change? No, it's the same.. he's arguably worse than Bush and you think someone like Palin could change things? You must be out of your mind.. what about Ron Paul? He isn't insane enough?



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Just Wondering
 


Lindsey Lohan's bank account is bigger then mine too. Pretty sure I could beat her in trivia.

Don't forget Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

Thanks for playing.


You know what's funny, I met Paris Hilton, she's actually a genius. I lost a debate about Foreign Politics and the use of the military with her.

She is perhaps the smartest entertainer in America.

She told me once, after asking why she allowed herself to be shown as such an idiot everyday.

" That's what America wants. They want stupidity, it's the flavor of the decade. Who am I to deny them that right? "

Supply and demand.

~Keeper



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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Don't the retards on this site ever get new material? Palin propaganda threads are so last year. I honestly don't know how anyone with a brain could be a supporter of Palin considering how incredibly stupid she comes off as and how her political ideology is consistently shown to be an epic fail. However obviously intelligence was never a pre-requeist. Anyway enjoy the circle jerk and supporting horrible people who annoy "Da Liberakzzzz."



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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Well she is not exactly an entertainer, and comparing Palin to the tart of the month is ridiculous, I said she was a self made millionaire not an heiress spoiled brat.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Just Wondering
reply to post by MrXYZ
 
Pfffffttt..
the answer is so much easier than your long winded plagiarized post.
What caused it? three words, "Queen, Barney, Frank"
THAT IS WHAT CAUSED IT



Not every reason for catastrophe can be dumbed down like that, sorry. And BF isn't in power long enough to be the main reason for the catastrophe. I take it you too never studied economics...or you weren't very good at it


As for plagiarism, tell me good sir...where did I plagiarize?


If you really think I plagiarized, report my post and let me laugh at you when a mod realizes it's not plagiarized. Don't just spout accusations without backup, it makes you look even stupider than you already look.

I'm really sorry if my long post hurt your brain because it was forced to think for a change. The sad reality is, the world isn't based on buzzwords, it's complex...no matter how hard Palin & Co. try to dumb it down for stupid people who can't/won't use their brain.

[edit on 9-6-2010 by MrXYZ]



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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Yeah she became a "self-made millionaire" by taking kick backs as a politician and then for being used for her big tits by political entities. Allow us all to sit back and worship her for her corruption and stupidity. Let's not forget that she was supposed to be a politician, but I guess you like our politicians to be made rich by outside interests. LOOK BIG TITS! LETS VOTE HER!



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Just Wondering
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 
Well she is not exactly an entertainer, and comparing Palin to the tart of the month is ridiculous, I said she was a self made millionaire not an heiress spoiled brat.



She is a self made millionaire because she's an idiot. Do you not understand that she did not "earn" her wealth, it was GIVEN to her.

What possible other reason could any company have to endorse or give mney to Sarah Palin, other than the fact that they KNOW that she's a polarizing character.

A character.

To be used and thrown away when somebody more interesting comes along. She does not have any political clout or any reason to stay in the realm of politics other than to get made fun of.

~Keeper



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Big differences between Palin and Obama.

Republicans yearn for Palin's endorsement.
Democrats run from Obama's.

Palin's endorsements help.
Obama's hurt.

Favorite line from the 2008 election......"Being a small town mayor is sort of like being a community organizer, except the small town mayor actually has responsibilities." Sarah Palin

THAT WAS CLASSIC!


[edit on 9-6-2010 by Carseller4]



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by anon72
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She's smart enough to get a million dollars book deal, a TV spot, some reality stuff, arrange huge speaker payments, political endorsements AND free Snowmobile Coats. I think she made out better than any of the Pres and VP canidates.



Same goes for Paris Hilton!

Going to go and support her run for office because she is smart enough to get people to pay her money to just be entertaining?



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Just Wondering
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 
Well she is not exactly an entertainer, and comparing Palin to the tart of the month is ridiculous, I said she was a self made millionaire not an heiress spoiled brat.



Once again you're sadly misinformed. 97% of the Hilton's wealth went straight to a charitable organization (that's $2.3bil!!), leaving only 3% inheritance for the rest of the family. Also, between 2003 and 2006, Paris made more money endorsing products, selling 2.3mil copies of her album, movies, and modeling than Palin ever made in a 3 year time span.

Paris PLAYS the dummy, but if you've listened to some more personal interviews, you realize she's not that dumb. I'm not saying she's a genius, but she's also not trying to enter politics and affect our lives like Palin.

Yes Palin made some $$$ in politics, but if that's the scale you apply in deciding whether or not she's clever or good in politics, then I hope not too many people follow your lead...cause it's RETARDED!

Also, Barney Frank got his position in 2007, the same year the collapse happened...there is no way he could have caused it BECAUSE HE HAD NO POWER OVER THE ECONOMY BEFORE THAT!! Saying otherwise makes you look really really stupid God Palin supporters are so incredibly retarded sometimes...


Then again, Franks gay...so that makes him automatically evil and a good scape goat...right?

[edit on 9-6-2010 by MrXYZ]



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by AshleyD
Also, I get irritated with the way the media seems to go after her for being 'blue collar redneck' and 'hockey mom.'


Wonder how they ever got THAT idea?


So the media is not allowed to characterize her own description of herself? Bizarre argument, no?

ON TOPIC:

Attributing the victories as a result of her support is like a crowing rooster taking credit for the sunrise. Besides, even a broken clock is right twice a day.



[edit on 9-6-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious

Attributing the victories as a result of her support is like a crowing rooster taking credit for the sunrise. Besides, even a broken clock is right twice a day.




That broken clock has a much better average than the candidates that Obama has been backing.

BTW thanks for the FOE deal......let's me know I'm doing my job!

My job? Angering liberals with the truth! The more angry liberals that FOE me the better!



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 10:30 PM
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Funny if you stop and think. (Don't strain too much) But if Ms. Palin is so worthy of all the respect and adoration, shouldn't she be Vice President right now and not out stumping for primary candidates?

Did she somehow transform into the savior of the Republican party as a result of bailing on her elected position as a half term Governor and penning her book? Did she have ample time to brush up on world politics and economics while cruising around signing books on the Tea Party Express bus and writing talking points on her hand?

I suppose I just don't get her mass appeal. But if others of your ilk like her so much perhaps I do. She seems to cater to the lowest common denominator. Squeal Baby Squeal.


[edit on 9-6-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 10:52 PM
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She was hounded out of office, by unfounded law suits... which wasted thousands and thousands of tax payer dollars. you know If the Liberals wanna go round and round about Palins smarts. and how she washed out of office and lost her Vice President gig ...Then lets talk about the Idiot who is are Vice President. Joe Biden, who is dumb as they come. I can say with a degree of certainty, that Palin has a higher intellect then this Bozo. I'm sure he can take her, at a super soaker battle... but that is about it.



posted on Jun, 10 2010 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Carseller4

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Attributing the victories as a result of her support is like a crowing rooster taking credit for the sunrise. Besides, even a broken clock is right twice a day.




That broken clock has a much better average than the candidates that Obama has been backing.

BTW thanks for the FOE deal......let's me know I'm doing my job!

My job? Angering liberals with the truth! The more angry liberals that FOE me the better!


WOW


Our jobs are eerily similar. My job is to anger Conservative and Liberals, with my Socialist rhetoric. And no, you will never get me to put you as a FOE because I have no foe's. It's a small minded thing to name someone as your enemy, I won't sink to childish levels.

Having taken Micro and Macroeconomics in college courses while in high school and finishing with a 97 and 94 respectively, and currently taking courses in Political Science and Philosophy since I started college at 17, I can reassure you that it is really fun to watch the Righties squirm under the heat of denying ignorance.



posted on Jun, 10 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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How did this thread turn into a discussion about the comparative intelligence, wealth, and generosity between Sarah Palin and Paris Hilton?

I have never met a "stupid" person in my life that was wealthy--there is definitely a correlation of sorts. Rich people don't get rich by accident, they put themselves in the right positions at the right times. I digress.

Though I haven't met Sarah Palin in person, I have spoken to her father at a Tea Party here in Alaska. I can tell you that her family is the genuine article, conservative through and through, and they are very personable and down-to-earth people.

Is she capitalizing on her 15 minutes of fame? Of course she is. And what's wrong with that? Many millions of others have done the same with less inspiring intentions.

I myself am very happy that Sarah is doing what she's doing, and I hope she doesn't run for any public office at all. She needs to be free to go where she wants and say what she wants. I think she knows this, and the only reason she's not telling us she's not planning on running is to keep the mystique going--again, a smart plan (and keeps others on their toes).

I cannot say she is the only cause of the Republican primary results, but she is certainly a factor. Make no mistake. She has fired up and inspired women all over this country. Women who used to sit at home and watch Oprah are now organizing Tea Party gatherings and running for public offices everywhere, and a lot of that has to do with Sarah Palin. I hear women all the time calling into radio shows and say they never used to have an interest in politics, but now they're running for assemblies and school boards.

Though Sarah Palin's fame may be only a limited time, I'm convinced she's already changed the history of this nation. These women she's inspired, once they've paid their dues on assemblies and school boards will be running for higher and higher offices years down the road. In other words, there is now an active breeding ground for future female conservatives, and I believe it will shift the whole nation within a decade.

My favorite thing about Palin, though, is how she spends two minutes on facebook, and sets the entire media aflame for a week. Now THAT is efficiency.



posted on Jun, 10 2010 @ 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by Atomic Honey


I have never met a "stupid" person in my life that was wealthy--there is definitely a correlation of sorts. Rich people don't get rich by accident, they put themselves in the right positions at the right times. I digress.



How many rich people have you met?

How many of them were Lottery winners, Actors, Singers, or Dean Koontz?

All one has to do to find a stupid rich person is turn on MTV during the day. I guess I keep missing the genius edition of "CRIBZ"

[edit on 10-6-2010 by K J Gunderson]




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