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70 Alien Civilizations supposidly observing earth

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posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Graham
Just came across this article of supposidly there being 70 alien groups observing earth

EX CIA Agent John Lear seems to be the one spilling this anyone know anything about him reliable or not

Graham

www.demonhunter.btinternet.co.uk...

and yes thier is supposed contact from aliens from Uranus aswell


Just thought i's get that in before anyone else

[edit on 10-6-2004 by Graham]


John Lear has some interesting things to say and he seems quite adamant about his experiances. The thing is no one can prove if he's the real deal or full of b.s. IMO I say he has no reason to make any of this crap up. If one day I'm proven wrong I'll eat my shoe with heinz ketchup




posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 07:26 PM
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After reading that, all I have to say is that SETI has some 'splanen to do!

Seriously, it wasn't a bad read. We should sign this guy up for Collaborative Fiction.



posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 07:31 PM
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70 Alien Civilizations supposidly observing earth?

I bet they are REALLY disappointed



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 07:26 AM
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I really respect Greer and Lazar for what they are doing, and probably they are on the right track, we need to support people like these, aint much of them nowadays with all the govt. silencers, can't say much about Lear though.

Apart from that, i doubt the probability that govt. is in contact with 70 races, i do believe there are more than that though.

Also, love Lear's answers here " A friends friend has told my friend of friend that is a friend of my friend " That sort of thing. You get the point.


[edit on 12-9-2004 by partykid]



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by partykid

Also, love Lear's answers here " A friends friend has told my friend of friend that is a friend of my friend " That sort of thing. You get the point.


[edit on 12-9-2004 by partykid]


I think I see you point partykid. It was Jon McIntosh of nhbradio.com that told me about the Lear/Kennedy post on ATS. And you have a good point, I think I will start naming names.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 10:47 AM
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Hi, find here the whole online version of Vlierden's book.

Vlierden creativity is excellent! It's definitely a unique point of view.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by partykid

Also, love Lear's answers here " A friends friend has told my friend of friend that is a friend of my friend " That sort of thing. You get the point.


[edit on 12-9-2004 by partykid]


I think I see you point partykid. It was Jon McIntosh of nhbradio.com that told me about the Lear/Kennedy post on ATS. And you have a good point, I think I will start naming names.


Glad to hear that, besides that, check youre u2u please. Im waiting for an answer.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 12:24 PM
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I wonder if the whole story (yep, story) of the supposed 70 plus species is actually a riddle or story designed to reveal the real goings on, but hides it among so much disinformation and only the true scholars among us can decipher the real deal from the bs. Anyone figure it out yet? I'm no scholar.

Just a thought
Your mileage may vary



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by everlastingnoitall
I wonder if the whole story (yep, story) of the supposed 70 plus species is actually a riddle or story designed to reveal the real goings on, but hides it among so much disinformation and only the true scholars among us can decipher the real deal from the bs. Anyone figure it out yet? I'm no scholar.

Just a thought
Your mileage may vary



You keep saying 70 species. That was a number I used in 1987 and was fairly accurate then. The number in 2004 is over 90. I think Clifford Stone mentions 87 in his material.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 01:13 PM
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I have a hard time believing that there are that many EBEs here. One or two I can start to fathom. But 70 or 90!? I don't believe we as earthlings are that important or vital that we would look like the United Federation of Planets. I'm a believer, but that's too much for me to swallow. Yikes.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 01:14 PM
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The number in my post was really rather irrelevant to the overall purpose of the post, but thanks for the clarification (sincerely).

Over 90? Wow. I only know what about three of the species look like, unless the 'mothman' and the 'chupacabras' are other, more brutalistic and sinister species.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by everlastingnoitall]



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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IMO I think critters such as the chupas. and the mothmen are not the EBEs themselves, but rather engineered tools of the EBEs. Recon, sample collection, etc.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 01:51 PM
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sort of off-the-subject,....but this story reminded me of a Futurama episode with a great URANUS joke. Whilte Prof. Farnsworth is showing Fry his "SMELLISCOPE" which can smell objects all over the universe, Fry cracks a joke.
Fry: Hey, Professor, Can I smell URANUS!!??!?
Farnsworth: I'm sorry Fry, but scientists changed the name of that planet to put an end to those jokes once and for all!!
Fry: Well, what's it called now?
Farnsworth: URECTUM!!!



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 01:59 PM
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Kapitan, I agree. I would tend to believe they are perhaps an animal or other creture brought here for other purposes, or perhaps, if we were really genetically produced, rahter than created or evolved, perhaps these creatures are 'failures' that somehow survived?

Also, would bigfoot be another example of this? or perhaps a more hairy EBE in its own right? (okay, this is rediculous, nevermind)



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 02:04 PM
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Thanks for joining us Spike, your insight is genuinely appreciated.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 02:54 PM
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Well, i don't care what you think, ive carefully studied the case, and concerning UFO/ET subject i believe 3 people and respect their actions :

1) Bob Lazar;
2) Steven Greer;
3) John Lear.

But i don't judge those who believe for example, freak Billy Meier. Sick ol' bastard made good money, basically, on nothing. IMO.


[edit on 12-9-2004 by partykid]



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by partykid
Well, i don't care what you think, ive carefully studied the case, and concerning UFO/ET subject i believe 3 people and respect their actions :

1) Bob Lazar;
2) Steven Greer;
3) John Lear.

But i don't judge those who believe for example, freak Billy Meier. Sick ol' bastard made good money, basically, on nothing. IMO.


[edit on 12-9-2004 by partykid]



As I've mentioned before on the Billy Meier threads I believe the photos he took are genuine and that at least some of his contacts with Semjase were real. The reason I believe this is I spent several days with 2 of the invesitigators that went over there and also looked at Jim Dilettoso's evidence. For whatever reason, several of the photos Bill Meiers took of one of the craft were identical to the one that Bob Lazar inspected a S-4. As a matter of fact Bob himself says, one of the Billy Meier saucer photos is identical to the 'Sports Model' I inspected at S-4.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by johnlear]



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 03:13 PM
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Well, as i know of, some of Billy Meiers photos were debunked a time ago, and if some are hoax, then the whole deal is a hoax. IMO.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by partykid
Well, as i know of, some of Billy Meiers photos were debunked a time ago, and if some are hoax, then the whole deal is a hoax. IMO.



I think Hal Korth, Phil Klass and several others made unscientific attempts to debunk the photos but jim Dilettosa, of Village Labs, with his advanced computers could not find evidence of a hoax. Korth and Klass had axes to grind, Jim didn't. I have to go with the scientific evidence.



posted on Sep, 13 2004 @ 08:32 PM
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I think after reading about Billy Meier that he had, at the core of it, one or two encounters that he then embellished upon or then hoaxed other encounters. For whatever reason he tarnished what actual evidence he produced. IMO.



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