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I'm not bothering anymore.
Your far too high up on your horse to discuss anything with an ounce of civility or respect.
Believe what you believe.
Not a woman, so I don't really know what your reffering to.
I don't see how the military has anything to do with this conversation either. Keep grasping at straws friend..
When you put it that way I agree.
I just don't agree with your boxed concept of women.
No I wasn't assuming you were done. I was done with you.
I did actually say that I was for honest equality which means consequence for all
Women are equal to men if we let them be.
People are waking up to that....deal with it
I am sure you'll used this as fuel and that is fine.
Either way welcome to the ignore box.
I refuse to drop to your level
"Well that's Ood..." - Rose Tyler
Women are better than men at empathy, social skills, and nurturing.
They have to be, because that is Woman's Role.... to be the caretaker of Offspring, and the nurturer of children.
Ahh so nice to see that my only value is my womb and my reproductive abilities....
And thank you for hunting all that Elk to provide for us
Originally posted by Edrick
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
What annoys me more about your responce is your complete and utter denial that, in the past, women have been oppressed.
Depends upon what you mean by Oppressed, don't it?
Just for you, here is the definition:
1. To keep down by severe and unjust use of force or authority: a people who were oppressed by tyranny.
2. To weigh heavily on: Poverty oppresses the spirit.
3. Obsolete To overwhelm or crush.
My post explains how women have been oppressed.
It was only 50 years ago a woman in the UK could NOT have a morgage. Why? because she was female.
It was only *THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY* that women were spared the horrors of forced conscription. Why? Because they are female.
This is a childish argument, like saying men no nothing of pain because they havent given birth. It was men that made the laws of FORCED conscription. Your saying it was RIGHT and JUST to deny women morgages because she couldnt fight in a war? What did you think women did when all the men were sent abroad?
In a time before that, a woman could NOT own land.
In a time before that, women did not defend their homes, did they?
Because they didnt "defend" their homes, they shouldnt be allowed to own one? Why is that? in the 18th century england, what would a woman have to protect her home from?
She could not vote and thus, governments catered for men's needs, for example making the laws that forbid women having a morgage!
Voting on what?
Our Government? You do know that the government is created primarily for the purpose of mutual self defense... right?
Like, the *ARMY*, you know...
If the women did not have to Fight in the army, like men did, then why should they get to make the decisions REGARDING that army?
You can't eat your cake, and have it too.
Governments are in place for mutual self defence but they are also in place to make laws that govern the land. Laws that say, you CAN beat your wife so long as the stick you use is no bigger then your thumb. Laws that say having sex with your wife, even if she does NOT consent is NOT classed as rape. (These are actual laws from 18th century england btw)
She could not vote and thus, governments catered for men's needs
Explain to me how Mutual self defense is not in the interest of women.
It is in the interest of women, but mutual self defence protects EVERYONE. Governments as ive already said were responcible for other laws which controlled womens rights.
Its not secret that women are still paid less today.
IT *IS* however, a secret that women *WORK LESS* than men.
Evidence? And i want an actual link to to your stats PROVING what you say.
You claim its because "Women do less" The fact of the matter is, it depends on the person.
Yes, it does... and the fact is, that women, on average, CHOOSE TO DO LESS.
Again, evidence lol. Your statment is biased.
There are lazy men, there are lazy women, there are people who just have a drive to work work work. Regardless of sex, everyone should be paid equally, anything different to that is sexist.
So, you are saying that a cashier should make the same as the president of the united states?
Or perhaps that a part time employee should make the same as a full time employee?
Or maybe that someone who has been with a certain company for only a few months should make the same as someone who has been working for that same company for decades?
Are you serious?
No. What i meant was two people, doing the same job. For example, two people working an office job. They do the same tasks, have the same workload work the same number of hours - Why should one of them be paid more because they have a penis? Its backwards thinking.
What ive listed above is only a few reasons why the feminist movement was NEEDED.
Needed by whom?
By woman, obviously.
Your making out as if women have had it easy over the past few centurys when the truth is, they have been neglected.
Let's see..... they didn't have to work, to support their family (housework is not the same as working at a job, and don't tell me any different, because you would be wrong.)
Yeah, houseworks a walk in the park and twice as fun /end sarcasm.
Publishers wouldnt even publish books by women because they believed them to be idiots who belonged in the home doing homely things.
Oh, yeah... private publishing companies reflect the entirety of human culture, don't they?
Not being able to be published because your a women shows how little they thought of womans intelligence.
Take a look at the Bronte sisters, all of them successful writers, but look how long it took them to get published? All because they didnt have a penis?
Take a look at child custody cases....
Women gain SOLE custody in most all cases, all because they don't have a penis.
I agree, judges should be less biased.
Parts of the world still use women as a type of property, just as the western world once did.
Did you hear about Mel Gibsons Recent Divorce?
Yeah... he had to pay his ex over 500 million dollars.
Explain what she did to earn that... and if you think "Homekeeping" is a 500 million dollar job, then you are a fool.
Gibson never heard of a prenup? Guy got screwed, just like women did for centurys. Heather mills is another example, yeah, those women are #ed up, i dont agree with what they did.
[edit on 10-6-2010 by SearchLightsInc]
The father walking his daughter down the isle represents the passing of ones property to another, no wonder feminists demonized marrige.
Let me ask you a BETTER QUESTION.... why didn't any of the NUMEROUS female leaders of the past CHANGE THIS?
Blaming everything on men is quite transparent, and puerile.
Perhaps you should take another look at history before you start ranting about how women have had it easy.
your entire post is nothing but ignorance to the facts.
I'm not the one who is agreeing with the Current Popular Opinions of the talking heads on television, am I?
Feminism is a STATE SPONSORED TACTIC designed to destroy the Western world, by eroding its culture.
Originally posted by KyoZero
Women are equal to men if we let them be.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
If you cannot perform the same task, within the same time constraints then you are not equal.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Just a few short years ago being called gay was a bad thing, and being homosexual meant you were a social outcast. Now it's the cool thing to do.