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The Feminist Movement—Ruining The Image Of Men

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posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Empowered women are NOT attracted to weak men. In fact it is usually the opposite.


I love how women these days seem to know more about being a man then men do


Any guy with an ounce of self-respect would stay away from a self-proclaimed feminist. Believing in the equality of the sexes? Fine. But, to proudly give yourself the title of feminist and claim you LOVE men is disgusting. Just be a lesbian and stop fooling yourself.

(not directed at you personally)

[edit on 12-6-2010 by AProphet1233]




posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233
Delusional much?


I don't know what you think was delusional about my paragraph, but my short answer is no. I am not delusional. If there's something specific you wish to discuss, let me know.




You love the image you have created for males.


Nope. I love men. Not all men, of course, But I have definitely spent enough time with enough men in my life to know that I'm quite fond of them. I actually prefer them to most women. I haven't a clue why you think you know me well enough to tell me my own mind. And YOU called ME delusional?



Because you keep a puppydog in the corner and pet him occasionally doesn't mean you love it.


Totally agree. And that has what to do with this discussion? Are you thinking I "keep" my man in the corner and pet him occasionally? I do pet him, certainly. Every chance I get. But he does whatever he wants, as do I. Another delusion you seem to have about MY relationship.



For the future, just try and sound intelligent.


Ah, resorting to personal attacks, huh? That's what people do when they feel overwhelmed or backed into a corner. Not to brag, but I would take you on ANY day in the area of intelligence.
And from what I've seen, I'm fairly confident I'd win.



I see you have thoroughly insulated yourself from all men. Congrats!


My husband laughed out loud when he read this veiled insult to his manliness.
He's more of a man than most. I have no need or desire to insulate myself from men. I love them, remember?



A feminist with a feminist husband huh? It wouldn't take a genius to see the power dynamic there.


Oh, we've had our power struggles in our nearly 20 year marriage, it's true. And they have served to make our relationship so strong, nothing could break it. Every couple has them. But we have come to a wonderful and enviable place of true equality in our relationship, thank you. There is no "power dynamic". We both contribute to and nurture our relationship and each other. And it's the BEST thing both of us have ever experienced.



It also wouldnt take a psychologist to know your husband does, in fact, hate himself and you are, obviously, narcissistic.


My husband >>>>
:shk:

I can't help but wonder why you felt compelled to make your entire post such a personal attack on me and my husband.
Feeling a bit insecure there? In any case, you clearly are grasping at those straws I was talking about earlier. Please, don't feel threatened. There's nothing to be afraid of. No need to come after me biting and scratching like that.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233
reply to post by Annee
 




Empowered women are NOT attracted to weak men. In fact it is usually the opposite.


I love how women these days seem to know more about being a man then men do


Any guy with an ounce of self-respect would stay away from a self-proclaimed feminist. Believing in the equality of the sexes? Fine. But, to proudly give yourself the title of feminist and claim you LOVE men is disgusting. Just be a lesbian and stop fooling yourself.

(not directed at you personally)

[edit on 12-6-2010 by AProphet1233]


Obviously - - it is YOU that has the problem.

Obviously - - it is YOU who has low self-esteem and requires a subservient.



[edit on 12-6-2010 by Annee]



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233
reply to post by Annee
 




Empowered women are NOT attracted to weak men. In fact it is usually the opposite.


I love how women these days seem to know more about being a man then men do


Her quote was about WOMEN. Who women are attracted to. And she is right in that empowered women are attracted to strong men. It's one of the VERY first things that attracted me to my husband. The strength of his convictions.



Any guy with an ounce of self-respect would stay away from a self-proclaimed feminist.


I think you might have a very skewed idea of what a feminist is. All we proclaim is equality. No power dynamics, no bullying, no 'one is better then the other', no 'a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle' bumper stickers, etc. Nothing a man with self-esteem should be threatened by. Chill. Empowered women love strong men. Accept it or not.



Just be a lesbian and stop fooling yourself.


Ooh! More insults to women. You are feeling cornered, aren't you? You have the idea that lesbians are lesbians because they hate men, huh? Seems you have the female gender all figured out!


[edit on 6/12/2010 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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Finally men are waking up to the biggest conspiracy out there. The emasculation of the American male is in full effect. American women will flame you, hate you and shame you if you resist.

The ship is sinking boys and the only way to save yourself is to leave the country and look for women who don't contribute to the circle jerk of man hating.

Check out these threads for some guides to getting out as fast as possible. For those already married and stuck, keep this knowledge as a backup plan.

www.belowtopsecret.com...

www.belowtopsecret.com...

At this point the only option you have is to remove yourself from the problem completely. Travel abroad, retire early... live frugally and marry foreign. Most families in the 3rd world make it by on under $400/month

For example in Mexico:
2 Bedroom apartment $150/month
Groceries for 2 people $50/month
Transportation for 2 people $20/month

What more do you need?

www.singleabroad.com



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:15 AM
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posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:17 AM
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The biggest problem I have with many Americans, is that, for some reason, they think America makes up the entire world. They keep thinking "What about America?" "How will it affect America?" America this...America that.

The sad truth is, there is a world outside of America...and, to those who think leaving America is the key...be very careful and very thorough in your research as to where you think you should go. The west has a very strong hold on the planet. I am from Trinidad, and this very same thing that we are discussing(The well-thought plan of feminism) is happening in many parts of the world, including Trinidad and the rest of the Caribbean. Western society is very influential, and as technology grows...it becomes stonger.

I know, in the east, they hold on to their cultures and aren't heavily influenced by the west to a large degree, but...if the people in power, remain in power...the East, along with many other parts of the world, will also lose its identity and become...another clone of the mighty U.S of A!



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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Some women aren't happy with metro-sexual men anymore. Now they want what is called "Neo-Sexual." What this means is that they an emotionally primed man that still has man like features such as facial hair and the like.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233

Just be a lesbian and stop fooling yourself.



Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Ooh! More insults to women. You are feeling cornered, aren't you? You have the idea that lesbians are lesbians because they hate men, huh? Seems you have the female gender all figured out!


That one's a "keeper" - don't ya think?


It deserves its own special place in the "who's delusional" lock box.

[edit quotes]

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Annee]



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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How old are you Annee?


For the record, I wouldn't want to be "kept" by any of you ragamuffins.

And obviously not all lesbians hate men. I simply think you should admit you are a lesbian and give up the feminist veneer.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by torturekiller2006
Some women aren't happy with metro-sexual men anymore. Now they want what is called "Neo-Sexual." What this means is that they an emotionally primed man that still has man like features such as facial hair and the like.


How about just - - "man" "male"

What's with the labels?

Men have always had different preferences in women.

Women have different preferences in men.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233
reply to post by Annee
 


How old are you Annee?


For the record, I wouldn't want to be "kept" by any of you ragamuffins.

And obviously not all lesbians hate men. I simply think you should admit you are a lesbian and give up the feminist veneer.


I am 64. My husband is 43. He is a solid on-the-ground red-haired bearded Swede.

I LOVE my Hunks.

You see my Avatar? Yes - that is me. I suppose from appearance I could be a Lipstick Lesbian - - - but I don't think that's your vision.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by liberatorx
The emasculation of the American male is in full effect.


You know what? Even if it WERE true that there is a movement to emasculate males, it would simply mean that the cosmic pendulum is swinging the other way and what women have been enduring for centuries is, by way of the Universe, threatening a little payback to men. And instead of taking it like women did all those years and "manning up and taking it like a man", you're suggesting men run away like a baby to a third world country and find a women who will be subservient to them, I can only assume so that you can feel powerful once again.

A real man doesn't need a subservient woman to feel powerful.


It's so sad that you guys don't have the experience of being with a truly empowered woman without it threatening your manhood. It takes a STRONG man not to be threatened by a woman who is strong, intelligent and powerful in her own right. It takes a real man.

Thing is, true power is about being internally empowered to be the best person you can be. It's not about over-powering someone else. Empowered women know that. But if that's the only way you can feel powerful... good luck.

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I realize I'm getting a bit "cutting" here, but compared with the insults that are being tossed at me, my husband and women in general, simply because I support equality, what I'm saying is MILD.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Keep your personal sob story to yourself sister, I'm done here.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:44 AM
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gee.... I don't see what the problem is.....
why don't men want to be "kept" by women???
they've been insisting for eons that they are doing us such a big favor by "keeping" us???

must be those differences between men and women, I guess......
oh, yes, women are just perfectly happy with being "kept" by a man, to be obscenely dependant on them, to have laws written that enforces their subservience to men and their obedience.....
but, na, men are different.....women, ya, that's what they want...
men, na....they are different!!!

may I suggest if you personallly don't like the idea of having to be so dependant on another, well....the person next to you , be they man or women, probably don't like it either????



[edit on 12-6-2010 by dawnstar]



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233
reply to post by Annee
 


Keep your personal sob story to yourself sister, I'm done here.




Some people really need to do their Mirror work.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:58 AM
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...leave the country and look for women who don't contribute to the circle jerk of man hating...


I have to agree with BH on this one. I don't think you realize how little sense that comment makes.

Translation: I don't feel powerful enough so let me go find a 'REAL' woman... one who will let me subjugate her so I will feel empowered again.

Good luck with that. There are some Russian bride websites available that I'm sure will provide you with the products you are searching for. And by products, I mean human beings you can own.

Happy servant hunting.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Well said!

I am a woman who is sick of the effects of the overly aggressive "feminists" (it's not what was intended in the beginning). I am one who sticks up for men when women bash them and I also stick up for women like me who don't mind being a female and are happy that we have differences with men. We are NOT all the same nor do I want to be treated as such.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by AProphet1233
Keep your personal sob story to yourself sister


Wait, you asked her personal questions and then when she answered them, you told her to keep it to herself?



Anyway, just talking with my husband about the emasculation of modern men. I do see where people think this might be happening as a purposeful action with the intent of male emasculation. My husband thinks (and I agree) that, rather than it being a purposeful movement, the emasculation of the male is a consequence of cultural evolution.

In today's modern societies, there's not a big demand for the "manly" qualities of raw strength, spacial relations, time estimation, mathematical calculations, and third dimensional thinking (all very necessary for hunting for food, by the way). Machines do all of this for us. Technology has seen to it that men don't have to use their inherent skills to make things work anymore. A woman can operate a backhoe, four-wheeler or a computer just as well as a man can.

On the other hand, interpersonal skills that females possess, such as language skills, multi-tasking, organization, human relations, empathy and social skills are VERY much in demand in this modern world, where information moves across nations in split seconds and people are communicating around the world like never before.

So, it's probably not that the feminists all got together and decided to make men obsolete. More likely, the technology that MEN advanced, to make their lives easier, is making them seem obsolete and unneeded.

The world doesn't need men in the same way it once did. So man are adapting and changing, becoming more empathetic, getting better at relating to others, talking more, being interested in human relationships. All to secure their continued demand.

It's an angle I hadn't really thought about before but to me, it makes complete sense.

ps, I am NOT attracted to metro-sexuals, neo-men or whatever. If my husband even MENTIONED having ANY of his body hair waxed, I would become ill. Nothing wrong with it, but I don't like it! I like muscles (not bulging), hair where it grows, confidence, intelligence, and a feeling that he could and would protect me if I needed it.



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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I don't think that's what he meant. BUT.... the kind of woman he wants is also to be found here in the U.S. They are just not as easy to come by if you are looking in the wrong places. I don't think there is anything wrong with a man wanting a modest woman who doesn't mind treating her man special. Now to be fair, it is hard to find a man who is willing to do the same too. It's frustrating to see what my boys have to wade through just to get to the good women.



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