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and, many of the women back then were expected to give the money they earned to their husbands......in NY, at one time, it was the law that that money they earned was consdered the husbands....
heck even today, if my husband knows I gave a few cigarettes to someone at work, or a little money to someone who needed it...ummm....I am wasting HIS money....
oh, and by the way, are you aware that they used to send little boys and girls into the coal mines to lay dynamite......
so much for the dangerous work being traditionally "men's work"
damn those bleeding heart liberals and those feminists for getting child labor outlawed!!!
Originally posted by Edrick
Fair enough.... then why did you bring this up in a discussion of Men's oppression of women?
So, if what I read here is accurate... there are some women who would rather be a stay at home mom, as opposed to a working mom? But for some reason they Can't?
IS that discrimination?
I thought we were discussing the Glass Ceiling....?
Originally posted by Edrick
If the Aces are in their places, then why bother visiting a conspiracy site to discuss what is NOT right with the world?
I am the one rejecting that position, you are the one that seems to be defending it!!!
if you don't like the way the family court system operates, if you don't like the way the military prefers the males....
and all those other inequalities that you are seeing.....
then why on earth are you claiming that the one thing that has caused things to be the way they are is the right way to do things???
ya, I know, the man's head is god, the women's head is man, this is the way it is, this is the way it has always been, and this is the way it will always be....
I mean, I am sorry, but it's pretty darned pathetic when men want things their own way so badly, that they invent a God that commands the women to do whatever they say to begin with!!!
Oh I love these threads.
Isn't it interesting that men are physically becoming more neutral and streamlined.
Isn't it interesting that women are physically becoming more neutral and streamlined.
Isn't it interesting that men still blame women. So old and boring.
Perhaps there is something more going on.
In a society based on intelligence rather then physical brawn or need to replenish the species - - perhaps - just perhaps - - a physical evolution is going on.
There is nothing a man can do that a woman can't do. Oh wait! Except produce sperm.
However - - its been proven frozen sperm (which can be tested for defects) seems to be healthier and live for years and years,
Since women can re-produce the human species without the need of a live man. Man is becoming obsolete.
Maybe that's their real fear.
No. Because men are in the same boat.
No. We were talking about inequity in pay between men and women for the same job.
I believe everything is as it should be. That doesn't mean it's perfect or right or fair, but we are in flux as a society and as a species. We are where we are.
I'm on a conspiracy site because I like it here. I also discuss what IS right with the world.
Originally posted by Edrick
Have you SEEN the average pants size of the world recently?
Originally posted by Edrick
Did you hear the one about Synthetic Uteruses? (Uteri?)
There is such a thing called trend.
The trend for the modern impowered women is to be slim and physically fit.
The body follows the mind
As clothes become tighter and thinner and less cumbersome - - - the body/mind adjusts to the presentation.
The average modern woman today is far less interested in having a body that looks like a baby machine.
yes....and the story of the garden of eden, the snake, and all that was probably the first propaganda ever published!!!
The first archaeological evidence of cosmetics usage is found in Egypt around 3500 BC during the Ancient Egypt times with some of the royalty having make up such as Nefertiti, Nefertari, mask of Tutankhamun, etc
it's objective, to tear down those goddess cults and establish patriarchal rule.....
and yes, I was halfway being sarcastic....the other half was sheer frustration with ya!
and hey, my son would be one of those being sent to war...
so, do you really, really think I want the guys sent off to war to protect me from the gov't's invented boogey men??
Oh Great! You're gonna buy your own "baby cooker" and raise the kid to your specifications.
Can't wait. The Future - - - is looking interesting.
Maybe you'd prefer a Cherry 2000 - - - and forget the kid.
Women do not have to work, they have the option of finding a man to support them, and society has (up until the feminist movement that is) supported the women in their decision.
If you are a man, you work your fingers to the bone to support a woman and family, or you are WORTHLESS.
Women do not have to submit to conscription as men do, and are under NO THREAT of being removed from their homes, gun placed in their hands, and told to "Kill or be Killed"
Women have the option of leaving their husband TAKING THEIR CHILDREN WITH THEM, and have the state force the husband to continue to provide for her...
Men do not have this option.
Women have government mandates enforcing "Quotas" for the amount of women in certain jobs... men must suck it up, and BE THE BEST AT THE JOB to be considered for employment.
You are saying that it is Right and Just that women can vote, own property, and have the same employment opportunities as men, but they aren't forced to risk their lives to defend it?
(Or, more accurately, that they are not forced to kill or be killed to secure the money and assets of the elite.)
"What did you think women did when all the men were sent abroad?"
Well, they certainly weren't Fighting and Dying thousands of miles from the saftey and security of their homes, now were they?
I think that women should Shut Up about their oppression and differing treatment, until they are willing to suffer the slings and arrows of RESPONSIBILITY, as men are.
Pass a bill in the house of representatives, and congress, (Get it signed by the president) that mandates NOT ONLY that women MUST register for selective service, but that they also must be EQUALLY REPRESENTED in all of the Front Line Combat positions, and dangerous jobs.... and then I will shut up.
"Laws that say having sex with your wife, even if she does NOT consent is NOT classed as rape."
A marriage contract is an agreement between two people, that agreement states that "Whats mine is yours, and what's yours is mine"
You don't seem to be complaining about men who have to keep paying for the women (OVER HIS OBJECTIONS), despite the fact that they are divorced....
That is Financial Rape (Theft), but you just don't see that, do you?
Nope.... whatever inconveniences the Man is fair game, but whatever inconveniences the Female is a crime against humanity, eh?
You ever got fired from the job of cleaning your house?
You ever had to put up with unruly customers whilst cleaning your house?
Were you exposed to dangerous environments? like at a blast furnace, or a coal mine?
How often do women DIE IN CAVE-INS, or Fires, or Explosions while working at home?
How many women are lost at SEA while doing the laundry?
How many women struggle to impress their boss so they can get a raise, for doing housework?
How many women don't get to see their kids, because their housework keeps them at the office late?
"Gibson never heard of a prenup? Guy got screwed, just like women did for centurys. Heather mills is another example, yeah, those women are #ed up, i dont agree with what they did."
But it was a WOMAN who was oppressing a man..... surely you understand that by your logic, that makes ALL women Oppressors, right?
Stop justifying the fact that the system is set up to steal from men to give to women... it shows your inherent mysandry.
"Its pretty hard to whipe a religious system that has existed for 2000 years off the face of the earth because of a social movement. You also forget, Marriage was STILL status at that time, and some extent, still is today. "
Excuses, excuses.... there have been MANY queens and Empresses throughout history, who ruled in solitude.... yet they did nothing to change this "Oppression" against women that you speak of.
Why don't you start blaming catherine the great, or queen elisibeth for the "oppression" of women.
When western women are the most free women ON THE PLANET....