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Raj Patel steps forward as Maitreya

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posted on Aug, 12 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod
 


So be it on your free will and choice that you go your path you deemed right and me mine. But eventually, our paths will converge and meet at the feet of our common Creator...

I bid you adieu then. But before that, I wish you a steadfast Ramadan. Do remember it is not a punishment, a chore, or an obligation as a muslim. You do so only at your own free will, to seek forgiveness and to have a closer relationship with Allah.

And when you break your fast daily, as you feast upon the bounties of food laid before you - the sweet dainties, the spicy fishes, the kebabs, stews of mutton and chicken broth and steaming hot rice, do ponder upon such bounties.

They are not your rewards, but love from Allah for you, for only through his love and blessings in your life would such bounties be seen and partakened before you. As you feast upon it, do remember the family whom lived only a few streets away from you, a father who had recently lost his job.

His children are starving, and may you share your bounties and blessings with them.

The purpose of this post is to show you that our Creator is not just some strict dispenser of justice as you made Him out to be, only capable of dishing out rewards and punishments.

If only you had studied history and crossed reference with other knowledge would you know how much He loved, cared and concerned about mankind throughout civilisation and lived within our hearts throughout.

No matter our specialities in careers, our skin and eye color, our system of worship, nationality, etc, we are all humans first, His creations and His children.

Peace be unto you, my brother.


Bravo!! Check and mate.
A hundred stars for you if that were possible.




posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 05:30 AM
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Sharing, Justice, Love are among the basics of the teachings of the Koran, but it's not enough. We are above all asked to obey God and to show him our recognition.

Just imagine someone who shares everything with the others and who spread love and justice, but who never thanks God, who never evokes him.... whereas God is his only true donator, is it a fair behaviour towards God? Is this a good person according to God?

NOT AT ALL

Sharing, Justice, Love are good and are among the commands of God but they are not the only commands; a true believer obey to ALL the commands of God.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
 



I do not deny that God is full of love and that God is not just a question of rewards and punishments. I am someone who is very sensitive and I am really touched by the mercy, the forgiveness, the generosity and the goodness of our God. God is pure good, pure love, pure mercy,.... but he is also the one who punish those who harm the other people and harm themseves, actually he does not even punish them, he just lets the consequencies of their actions fall on them.

God is the guide and he knows who are his true believers, that's what really matters.

Thanks for your nice words.

Peace on you


Thanks for your compliments. It may perhaps take a while more before you are willing to comprehend the true love our Creator has for us. May you pause for a while, and ponder upon these words the insignificant me can ever muster up just for you.

Should our Creator rewards us, whom amongst would be pure enough to JUSTIFY such rewards? Me, you and all are only flawed mortals...

Should our Creator punishes us, whom would be left alive today?Whom amongst is without sin or had NOT done something that had broke His heart just an hour ago?

Look at yourself and reflect on the bounties of blessings you had recieved. Was it because you had been a pure and perfect person?

Nope. Me and you are not without sin. We are just like wayward children, child still, and which father would not love his own children, even when they misbehave or behave badly?

A father only hopes that in time, the child will realize his errors and change his ways, but no matter what happens, the child will always be loved, till he starts to hurt and harm others, and their cries screams aloud to the father for justice.

Our Creator loves us, and had been merciful throughout mankind's existance. When religion started, we had been mere ignorant naive children. The carrot and stick was used, just like any father would do to a young child.

But today, we had aquired and blessed with knowledge built upon knowledge over time. We had progressed with still a long way to go, but we do have to mature and comprehend that it was His divine mercy and patience for us all, and is something leaders show understand and not misinterpretate it with constant fire and brimestone pulpit admonishments anymore.

His gift of love is in us all, and lays within each person's capacity to love others just as His gift of life a capacity for all to live. And you must use this love to end wars, hatred, discrimination, etc amongst us brothers and sisters all.

This message needs no Matreya to expound. It is already within us laying dormant, for the true synagoge, church, mosque, temple, etc - is in our hearts and not some fanciful objects made of stone or glass to awe others.

Peace, my brother.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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You don't even know me, so please don't speak about what you ignore. You speak about me as if I was a monster without heart. Thanks to God, I know what is true love and compassion.

God is my Master and my Teacher, he provides me ANYTHING I need, I don't need you or anyone else.

You start getting on my nerves by speaking about love love love..... Truth is a much higher value than love.

Whether it pleases you or not, God is the only True Master and he is the one who punishes and who rewards, .

Live your life and let me live mine.

I have no recommandation for you except directing you to the Koran, and I expect NOTHING from you.

[edit on 13-8-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]

[edit on 13-8-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 08:37 AM
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The Buddha-Nature is within all of us, so this guy is just trying to get fame. He may be enlightened, and he may be beneficial to society, but he is not "the one" we all have the power of "the one".

In Buddhism mythology, a Buddha returns every so often to remind people of the truth of Buddhism, which really just means society goes through cycles of enlightenment and darkness. The "maitreya" or the "coming of the savior" or the "2012 end of the world" or the "Aquarian Conspiracy" is merely a metaphor to mean that society is gaining a new understanding of their existence.

sorry to burst your bubble, but I believe we are our own saviors.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia
The Buddha-Nature is within all of us, so this guy is just trying to get fame. He may be enlightened, and he may be beneficial to society, but he is not "the one" we all have the power of "the one".

In Buddhism mythology, a Buddha returns every so often to remind people of the truth of Buddhism, which really just means society goes through cycles of enlightenment and darkness. The "maitreya" or the "coming of the savior" or the "2012 end of the world" or the "Aquarian Conspiracy" is merely a metaphor to mean that society is gaining a new understanding of their existence.

sorry to burst your bubble, but I believe we are our own saviors.


God is the only savior, therefore, no one shall expect to be saved by another than God.

Buddhism has become mere mythology, it has nothing to do with Truth so far it's been deviated.

Today, you want to find a true guidance, accept the Truth of the Koran, otherwise, you'll only follow conjecture and doubt, which will lead you to Hell. Hell is not a concept, it burns as real as you burn when you put your hand over the fire.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
 


You don't even know me, so please don't speak about what you ignore. You speak about me as if I was a monster without heart. Thanks to God, I know what is true love and compassion.

God is my Master and my Teacher, he provides me ANYTHING I need, I don't need you or anyone else.

You start getting on my nerves by speaking about love love love..... Truth is a much higher value than love.

Whether it pleases you or not, God is the only True Master and he is the one who punishes and who rewards, .

Live your life and let me live mine.

I have no recommandation for you except directing you to the Koran, and I expect NOTHING from you.



If love gets on your nerves, how then are you to comprehend Truth, when the fundamental truth of our existance is base on our Creator's love ?

You are not and never ever will be ready for the Truth that you speak so highly of as long as you cannot comprehend true love from our Creator. Just mouthing you do means nothing, to me or to others, even to yourself, for you live your own life.

I can only share an insight with you on my free will, and it is your free will to reject, just as you reject our Creator's love and truth in your heart, and would rather accept the words of man or man's interpretation as truths...

Be still, my brother and calmly reflect....



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia
I believe we are our own saviors.


An interesting philosophy - you are your own saviour.

But where does the knowledge or the purpose that you need saving comes from? 'Inborn' and 'natural' animal survival instincts? Are you an animal or a civilised being?

No aspersions intended, just wanna know your insight further.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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Love has nothing to do with Truth, that's 2 complete different things. You are totaly out of context.

God knows better who are his well guided people, and not you.

[edit on 13-8-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

God knows better who are his well guided people, and not you.



Most certainly. I am glad you realized that too. Now can I say the same for you as well, espacially your misguided beliefs on the beautiful and peaceful religion of Islam as the good prophet Muhammad, blessed be his name, had tried to teach to a modern day Gomorrah sinful city inhabitants Medina was in the 7th century?

As for love and truth being separate in religion as you claim, then I guess you need more work than I had expected and am surprised, considering the fact that you cherished the Koran dear. But it will not be done by me, as it is a job only you can do, for you live your own live with your free will, to accept or to reject.


[edit on 13-8-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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I see clear in your little game... keep on playing your comedy, God is watching you.

I won't lose more time with you, God will settle your case.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
 


I see clear in your little game... keep on playing your comedy, God is watching you.

I won't lose more time with you, God will settle your case.



What game am I playing? You speak of 'truths' and hold it in high regard, so now where is the truth of the supposed 'game' I am playing? Or is it once again, it is NOT truth you seek and speak?

I am sure our Creator will settle this issue, for there is no issue too small for Him. But I will be here, for a matured discussion, after you had comprehend what the Koran is trying to tell you and NOT what your city imman is telling you, or you deluded telling yourself.

Cheers.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
What game am I playing? You speak of 'truths' and hold it in high regard, so now where is the truth of the supposed 'game' I am playing? Or is it once again, it is NOT truth you seek and speak?

I am sure our Creator will settle this issue, for there is no issue too small for Him. But I will be here, for a matured discussion, after you had comprehend what the Koran is trying to tell you and NOT what your city imman is telling you, or you deluded telling yourself.

Cheers.


You keep on injecting your poison:
I've repeated so many times that I have no teacher/Master/Imam beside God, and you still try to discredit me by your lies.

I've accepted the Koran and my only will is to please God, God makes his verses clear in my head and not anyone else.

God provides a test to debunk the hypocrites:

Let's pray God to destroy the liar and the hypocrite among us. Do it if you are sincere and if you're not, you're only digging deeper and you won't escape the Wrath of God.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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I wonder if he or another will want to use the AADHAAR number
system for identification? Scary.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

God provides a test to debunk the hypocrites:

Let's pray God to destroy the liar and the hypocrite among us. Do it if you are sincere and if you're not, you're only digging deeper and you won't escape the Wrath of God.


NO!!! No way am I gonna do as you command. It's not and not gonna be another 'either you are with us..or against us' BS forced will. Simply because I don't want you hurt and harmed.

It's only your ignorance that is causing you to lie and be the hypocrite here. You can change, but it will have to come from you. I will pray instead for you to be enlightened.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

God provides a test to debunk the hypocrites:

Let's pray God to destroy the liar and the hypocrite among us. Do it if you are sincere and if you're not, you're only digging deeper and you won't escape the Wrath of God.


NO!!! No way am I gonna do as you command. It's not and not gonna be another 'either you are with us..or against us' BS forced will. Simply because I don't want you hurt and harmed.

It's only your ignorance that is causing you to lie and be the hypocrite here. You can change, but it will have to come from you. I will pray instead for you to be enlightened.


Once again you feign to not understand:

I've told you to pray God to destroy you (not me) if you are a liar, I'll do the same. Each one pray for his own destruction if he's the liar.

You're like a snake, you can plot and plot again, you think your plan is robust but it will fall on you.

Let's wait who will be punished for his sins

Now once for all, I am done with you



[edit on 13-8-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

Once again you feign to not understand:

I've told you to pray God to destroy you (not me) if you are a liar, I'll do the same. Each one pray for his own destruction if he's the liar. Anyway, whether you do it or not, God will punish the liar among us.

Let's wait who will be punished for his sins



Nah, I've got your qoute quite correctly, unless you are once again lying. You specified 'amongst us', which mean you are praying for ALL liars and hypocrites to be destroyed, not just specifically me to be destroyed or ( you hoping against hope - you wont be destroyed)

But do as you will, for who amongst us had never lied and never had been a hypocrite in his/her life? We arent perfect beings, and you least of all.

You are seeking only destruction, not only for yourself but for all. See what I mean when you merely mouth platitudes of being compassionate but in TRUTH, you are never compassionate?

You are a destroyer, and not a builder. Wake up, my brother, the time of ignorance is over. We adults all deserve our fate for having failed our Creator's mercy, but at least spare and have mercy on the children. They are innocent.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Now once for all, I am done with you

[edit on 13-8-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]


Ooops! You mean you are saying your last words? You're about to be destroyed? Nope, I didn't pray as you commanded, as I mentioned before. It cant be from me.

Hope you are ok. It's only a discussion. I want none destroyed. There's always room for improvements,you hear?



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Nah, I've got your qoute quite correctly, unless you are once again lying. You specified 'amongst us', which mean you are praying for ALL liars and hypocrites to be destroyed, not just specifically me to be destroyed or ( you hoping against hope - you wont be destroyed)

But do as you will, for who amongst us had never lied and never had been a hypocrite in his/her life? We arent perfect beings, and you least of all.

You are seeking only destruction, not only for yourself but for all. See what I mean when you merely mouth platitudes of being compassionate but in TRUTH, you are never compassionate?

You are a destroyer, and not a builder. Wake up, my brother, the time of ignorance is over. We adults all deserve our fate for having failed our Creator's mercy, but at least spare and have mercy on the children. They are innocent.


You see, you're just like a snake, you play with words just like Creme and Maitreya/Raj Patel do.

You perfectly know what I meant, I will re-express it just to clearly expose you:

Let's pray God to destroy the one among us (YOU AND ME, NOT THE OTHERS) who is lying (IN THIS DISCUSSION, NOT IN OUR WHOLE LIFE). Is it clear enough now???

Each one of your new interventions, you inject a bit more your poison,...., of course you always wish me peace at the end.

People like you think they are smart but actually, you are exposed and you're the only one who does not realize it.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

You see, you're just like a snake, you play with words just like Creme and Maitreya/Raj Patel do.

You perfectly know what I meant, I will re-express it just to clearly expose you:

Let's pray God to destroy the one among us (YOU AND ME, NOT THE OTHERS) who is lying (IN THIS DISCUSSION, NOT IN OUR WHOLE LIFE). Is it clear enough now???

Each one of your new interventions, you inject a bit more your poison,...., of course you always wish me peace at the end.

People like you think they are smart but actually, you are exposed and you're the only one who does not realize it.


YOU LIED AGAIN!!! Sinking deeper and deeper. Be glad I did not follow your original prayer or you'll be a goner by now.

Glad you came back, even if YOU LIED AGAIN that you are done with me. Err.....psst...it's you doing the exposing of yourself and you not realizing it, not the insignificant me.

The only thing I will claim to inject into you is not poison, but insights to your own behaviour. Re-Read the thread of when you and I stared here.

Truly and sincerely once again, Peace. ( if i had intended ill will towards you, you would not have lasted this long.)




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