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The Gulf Oil Spill is NOTHING compared to this

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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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Worst oil spill in the world is in Ecuador and done by Chevron

As the nation remains riveted on the tragic BP spill unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico, Chevron still holds the record for creating the world's largest oil-related contamination and it happened deliberately in the populated Amazon rainforest in an even more sensitive ecosystem than the marshes of Louisiana.

Chevron's illegal oil-related dumping is at the root of a class action lawsuit in Ecuador where the oil giant now faces more than $27 billion in damages for poisoning an area the size of Rhode Island with 18.5 billion gallons of toxic "produced water," or more than 474 times the amount of contamination estimated to have been spilled in the Gulf of Mexico tragedy, according to calculations made by representatives of the plaintiffs.

Chevron's contamination has decimated the traditional lifestyles of five indigenous groups in the area, and one group has disappeared, according to the lawsuit. The pollution occurred when Texaco (now owned by Chevron) was the exclusive operator of a large oil concession in the rainforest from 1964 to 1990.

A 17-year trial against Chevron taking place in Ecuador's courts – moved there from U.S. federal court in 2002 at Chevron's request – is expected to end later this year. Chevron has declared the trial court is "biased" against it and has announced it will not pay any adverse judgment.

The plaintiffs in the trial are tens of thousands of rainforest residents, including the surviving members of indigenous groups called the Secoya, Cofan, Siona, Huarani, and Kichwa.

These are the facts of Chevron's dumping in the Amazon and how it compares to the BP spill in the Gulf:

* In the 1970s, Chevron's predecessor company Texaco (bought by Chevron in 2001) perforated hundreds of oil wells across a 2,000 sq-mile swath of rainforest that was home to the indigenous groups. The area where Chevron operated is one of the most biodiverse in the world, containing almost 10% of the world's plant species.
* Instead of re-injecting toxic "produced water" (which contains high levels of salt, pure crude, and the carcinogen benzene) deep into the ground – the industry practice then recommended by the American Petroleum Institute – Chevron dumped 18 billion gallons of it into rivers and streams. These waters had been used thousands of years by the local population for its drinking water.
* The BP tragedy was an accident; Chevron's discharge in Ecuador was deliberate.
* Chevron, as reported by 60 Minutes last year, also built more than 900 unlined waste pits to permanently store toxic sludge – another violation of industry standards. It then built pipes to drain the sludge into nearby streams.
* Chevron also burned gas without controls, creating enormous air pollution and a "black rain" phenomenon in the rainforest.

These facts have been documented in numerous testimonies, in more than 200,000 pages of trial evidence, and in the book Amazon Crude written by law professor Judith Kimerling and published in 1991 just before Texaco fled the country in 1992, according to representatives of the plaintiffs.

Experts have concluded that the Chevron discharged at least 345 million gallons of pure crude oil directly into the rainforest ecosystem, including 17 million from ruptured pipelines. To put this in perspective, the U.S. government has estimated that between 18 and 39 million gallons have been spilled thus far in BP's disaster in the Gulf, and approximately 11 million gallons of pure crude was spilled during the Exxon Valdez disaster.

Just like BP in the Gulf spill, Chevron continually tries to obfuscate the facts and cover up its responsibility in Ecuador:

* In 1972, a Chevron executive issued a memo ordering that all documents in Ecuador documenting oil spills be destroyed.
* Chevron claims it was "released" from further clean-up responsibility based on a "release" signed with the Government of Ecuador. But Chevron's "remediation" was a fraud. Evidence presented at trial shows that the small number of pits "remediated" are still as contaminated as sites not touched.
* As a result of Chevron's fraudulent "remediation," two company lawyers and ten former Ecuadorian government officials are now under indictment in Ecuador for lying about the clean-up results.
* During the trial in Ecuador, lawyers for the plaintiffs have been subjected to death threats, a Nixon-style dirty tricks campaign to remove a judge, and the use of junk science by Chevron "experts."
* Chevron claims high cancer rates are caused not by exposure to toxins, but by the poor personal hygiene among the local population.
* Chevron also has tried to silence its Ecuador critics – pressuring media outlets to deny advertising about the company's human rights problems and even going as far to have five people arrested at its shareholder meeting last week.

This is disgusting behavior. And of course no one in the US government is talking about this or hinting at suing Chevron for what they did there.

You think BP will act differently from Chevron because it's in the US? THINK AGAIN.




posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:19 AM
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The Gulf Oil Spill is NOTHING compared to this


It's a bit preemptive to make a blanket statement like this when the BP oil disaster isn't even through 'spilling' yet - now isn't it?
But I get your point.

I do not agree however that 'one-upping' the BP spill is going to do anyone, any good, anytime, now or in the future.

It's an immeasurable crime against the Earth and all it's inhabitants, what BP has done - and trying to compare it to a spill from the past isn't going to make what they've done, and are doing, any less heinous.

peace



[edit on 8-6-2010 by silo13]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Looks like it's time to implement Oboma's new energy program.

[edit on 8-6-2010 by Theone2000]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:27 AM
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Didn't Bush buy 100,000 acres in Equador right before leaving office? I figured it was because they didn't extradite criminals, probably unrelated but I thought I'd throw that in the mix.

Poor bastards, welcome to the western 'Legal System' Equador. This little snippet made me really queasy...
"A 17-year trial against Chevron taking place in Ecuador's courts – moved there from U.S. federal court in 2002 at Chevron's request – is expected to end later this year. Chevron has declared the trial court is "biased" against it and has announced it will not pay any adverse judgment."



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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wtf is with these people? its like they want to destroy the environment; as if emissions from oil products isn't bad enough so they have to drown the ecosystem in crude.

as if they didn't make enough money to take proper precautions...good grief; unbelievable



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by reject
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


wtf is with these people? its like they want to destroy the environment; as if emissions from oil products isn't bad enough so they have to drown the ecosystem in crude.

as if they didn't make enough money to take proper precautions...good grief; unbelievable

Problem, reaction, solution. duh? hhe

[edit on 8-6-2010 by Theone2000]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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They know the consequences of their actions, therefore all this is premeditated.

It is the intention, to destroy. It is like being on heroin - you know you are destroying yourself. They are possessed.

They just won't comply to the court ruling. They can do so. Because the money they earn is invested into the mightiest military in the world. That military will protect them and if necessary liquidate their "enemies".

Has the oil reached Florida beaches yet?



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:56 AM
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Both cases are horrible but you can not justify BP do to the actions of another as 2 wrongs do not make a right.

Not saying it will be as bad but the BP spill is not done and there is still an investigation if this was an accident. Look into it and what happened prior to the BP spill and there is entirly to much shadyness for an accident.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
Has the oil reached Florida beaches yet?

Right product, wrong disaster.

This oil was dumped on Equador's rain forest, where nobody cares about because it isn't featured on the talking head shows here and the tribes who are living in the cesspool of toxic waste there can't compete with Chevron in an American Federal courtroom.
OP, do you know how the hell Chevron managed to get this out of an Equadorian Court in the first place? This doesn't belong in a US court, and I'm utterly disgusted by that.

[edit on 8-6-2010 by twitchy]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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I'm losing all faith in mankind, if people can do this and then still claim the trial is "bias"?
There is something seriously wrong with these people mentally, after all, they live on this planet too, so you'd think it'd be in their best interests not to screw it up



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo


Chevron's illegal oil-related dumping is at the root of a class action lawsuit in Ecuador where the oil giant now faces more than $27 billion in damages for poisoning an area the size of Rhode Island with 18.5 billion gallons of toxic "produced water," or more than 474 times the amount of contamination estimated to have been spilled in the Gulf of Mexico tragedy, according to calculations made by representatives of the plaintiffs.



And yet we are all still here, life as we know it hasn't ended!! More proof Mother Nature is more resilient than many humans believe, and why the gulf spill will be all but forgotten 6 months after the leak is stopped.

Not saying what they did was right, but the doomsayers worried about the end of the world from this spill need to put things in perspective. There are many more things going on right now that are more dangerous than this.

[edit on 8-6-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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And how about the Niger Delta?

thechronicleherald.ca...
www.guardian.co.uk...






[edit on 8/6/10 by Freeborn]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:07 AM
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I was asking about the Gulf oil spill. It was supposed to reach Florida a couple of days ago. The MSM don't write much about that.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by twitchy
Didn't Bush buy 100,000 acres in Equador right before leaving office


I had read of this before and it is horrible. As for Bush he bought all that acreage in Paraguay (where all the Nazis go).



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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The Gulf Oil Spill is NOTHING compared to this


Sorry, but this is where I quit reading..

I'm sure that you didn't mean 'nothing', but I still couldn't get passed that point.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Of course I didn't mean ``nothing``. What is happening in the gulf is a big deal! And it's about to get worse with the hurricanes...

But the tragedy in Ecuador is still going on and has been going on for more than a decade. There were over 18.7 BILLION gallon of toxic products dumped into the area, leading one tribe extinct.

So in comparison of what's happening in gulf where what, 4 million gallon AT MOST have been leaked so far in the gulf?

It's still bad in the Gulf, but not nowhere as bad as it is in Ecuador... and those bastards will get away with it in Ecuador as they will in the US.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Link provided for cross reference purposes as there's some good info/updates on the subject:

CRUDE - The Real Price of Oil



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Didn't Bush buy 100,000 acres in Equador right before leaving office? I figured it was because they didn't extradite criminals, probably unrelated but I thought I'd throw that in the mix.

So. America with all the other Nazi's.
Figures.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Theone2000

Originally posted by reject
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


wtf is with these people? its like they want to destroy the environment; as if emissions from oil products isn't bad enough so they have to drown the ecosystem in crude.

as if they didn't make enough money to take proper precautions...good grief; unbelievable

Problem, reaction, solution. duh? hhe

[edit on 8-6-2010 by Theone2000]
yeah right, I'm sure [color=limegreen]you will solve this because [color=limegreen]you are so smart...

Originally posted by Theone2000
Looks like it's time to implement Oboma's new energy program.

[edit on 8-6-2010 by Theone2000]


May 23, 2010
Obama's 'Green' energy program an epic fail in Spain
Rick Moran

President Obama has admitted that his plan to convert American electrical power into clean, renewable energy sources is modeled on a program that has been in place in Spain for years.

Now a Spanish newspaper has uncovered the truth that the authorities in Spain has been withholding from the people; that their attempts to "go green" have met with titanic failure.

A translation of the story is supplied by Chris Horner writing in Pajamas Media:

The president of the United States, Barack Obama, does not appear to have chosen well in basing his "green economy" on Spain's. After the government of Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero demonized a study by various experts on the economic downsides of renewable energies, it just leaked an internal document from the Spanish cabinet which is even more negative.
Among the findings, paraphrased from the right sidebar:


* Green energy is 120 percent more expensive, simply due to the extra costs of solar and wind, and the evolution of the market is not going to bring down those costs any time soon.

* The clean energy sector is slated to receive 126 billion euros in the next 25 years, but no one knows where the money is going to come from . In 2009, the subsidies were worth 5 billion euros.

* Photovoltaic solar power accounts for 53 percent of the extra cost of renewables, whereas it produces only 11 percent of Spain's renewable energy.

* Each "green job" comes at the expense of 2.2 traditional jobs.


Every single advantage that the president has touted green sources of energy giving us has proved to be false.

Interesting that no mainstream media outlet except the Washington Examiner is covering this story - a story that proves that the tens of billions of dollars in the stim bill earmarked for green energy projects are not only a colossal waste of money, but will actually hurt the economy.



Hat Tip: Ed Lasky
I'm sure because [color=limegreen]you are so smart[color=limegreen], you will fix this...

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you're god's greatest gift to humanity


[edit on 8-6-2010 by reject]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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By "we are still here" I am assuming you are speaking of us who never lived in the area of Ecuador where all the toxins were spilled. For them, most likely it would seem like the world had ended. Certainly the flora and fauna who could not leave are no longer around to argue any case.

Mother Nature is indeed resilient but why continually make her prove it? I agree there are a lot of doom sayers and there may be other dangerous things going on. However, that does not make this any less egregious nor does it reduce the significance of those peoples lives who are effected by corporate malfeasance.

Instead, look at it like a warning of possible things to come. It is obvious those corporations engaging in this reckless behavior care little about your life or anything you hold dear save your ability to produce profit for them. If one day that changed and they stood to profit from destroying your life, there will be no hesitation.



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