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Fellow Massachusetts doctor Augustus P. Clarke took MacDougall to task for having failed to take into account the sudden rise in body temperature at death when the blood stops being air-cooled via its circulation through the lungs. Clarke posited that the sweating and moisture evaporation caused by this rise in body temperature would account both for the drop in the men's weight and the dogs' failure to register one. (Dogs cool themselves by panting, not sweating.)
MacDougall's results were flawed because the methodology used to harvest them was suspect, the sample size far too small, and the ability to measure changes in weight imprecise. For this reason, credence should not be given to the idea his experiments proved something, let alone that they measured the weight of the soul as 21 grams. His postulations on this topic are a curiousity, but nothing more.
Originally posted by Jonna
It depends on your definition of the word soul. Is soul, consciousness or life energy or spirit or something connected through another dimension? Since we have no proof that a 'soul thing' exists you really can not define it as there is no proof. Problems galore.
Originally posted by echosounder
there is of course the idea of 21 Grams....that at the precise moment of death the body loses 21 grams of weight (if anyone can back this up please do as I forget where I heard it and no it wasn't from the movie)
Is it scientific? do you mean physical or is it measurable under our current scientific knowledge?
I don't think simply being alive has any bearing on whether or not we have a soul, being alive simply means we eat, breathe sleep etc. Does a plant have a soul or is it simply alive.
We are self aware, does this mean we have a soul? I don't know.
We are all individuals is what makes each of us different from the other proof that we have a soul?
Good topic this one might get pretty big
Originally posted by HobNob
Here is some information about Dr. Duncan Macdougall's 1907 '21 Grams' experiments, and their flawed methodology and results
Originally posted by shauny
my view on the soul
i KNOW FOR A FACT in myself that we all have a soul, and that the soul lives on. bu that is something i have felt and experianced for myself, so its easy for me to say that. the joy i feel knowing after death we live on is great (im not religious at all btw) your soul for me as i said in another thread is the all knowing, wise part of us all. the part sadly most of us cant utilize 100% as our evil brain stops us from doing go.
when we pass on our soul lives on. after that i have no idea where it goes, what it does. in my experiance the soul is a remorseful soul after death. i believe after death we stand, judged by ourselfs. this is the feeling i get when i communicate with spirit energy.
maybe one day i will do a short thread for you all of some of my experiences