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"Israel" God's Chosen People in Prophecy. Lest we forget

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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Loken68
 


Lest we forget


Lest WE forget?

How about lest THEY forget?

'God's arsenal shouldn't include (among many things) white phosphorus !!!

THEY need to remember who THEY are - and start acting like it!

peace


This is one reason I have trouble with much the spiel that goes along with belief.

It has been said that the Jews were chosen to be a light, an example for the rest of the world. I don't think that they have been a very shinning example. Not at least for a God that is supposed to be loving and merciful.

Also, If we first started from Adam and Eve then everyone has the same ancestors and are the same. Even if you believe that God destroyed the world and saved only Noah and his family, again we all have the same ancestors so there is no issue about Jews and the chosen one. That would makes us all Jews and all chosen.

So something just isn't right with the whole thing. I think the bible has been edited to the point that it leaves more questions then answers and while this may have been acceptable in a time when people did not have the time or the education to think for themselves, it creates a real problem for anyone that can do the math.

I think some could benefit from a re-read of Dr. Zeus's "The Sneetches". Believing that only those that have star upon thars creates one heck of mess and one truly dysfunctional society.




posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Just goes to show that even God isn't perfect. If I were God, I think I would have picked a less bloodthirsty group as my chosen people. Eskimos would be front runners, but I think I would have settled on the Swedish Bikini Team. Yeah, they would make a great chosen people. I'd smite some non-believers for them!


[edit on 8-6-2010 by VictorVonDoom]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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You screwed up the whole thing by assuming those people are actually Jews of the Bible.

Obviously they are not.

Why no mention of Edom? It's only the 2nd most important race of people in the Bible.


Rev 2:9
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15He who has ears, let him hear.
-Matt11.13

What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions UNTIL the Seed to whom the promise referred had come.-Gal3.19

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.-16

This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God-1John4.2

For no matter how many promises God has made, they are "Yes" in Christ.-2Cor1.20

I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.-Rom1.16

"See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty.-Mal3.1

because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you-Luke19.44

For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh-Phil3.3

new jerusalem-Rev

jerusalem above is free and she is our mother-Gal4

Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.-John4.21

new name-Is62.2,65.15,Rev3.12

"Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.-Is65.17

"men will no longer say, 'The ark of the covenant of the LORD.' It will never enter their minds or be remembered; it will not be missed, nor will another one be made.-Jer3.16



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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" 'Because you have said(Edom), "These two nations and countries will be ours and we will take possession of them," even though I the LORD was there-Eze35.10

Edom may say, "Though we have been crushed, we will rebuild the ruins." But this is what the LORD Almighty says: "They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called the Wicked Land, a people always under the wrath of the LORD.-Mal1.4



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 05:23 PM
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And not one single thing about the Jews and Israel trying to take over the world, try to ram themselves down everyone's throats, nor try to manipulate the world to their way of thinking.

Those prophecies were made to come true because people MADE them come true- each one of them. NOT because of some miraculous movement of 'God".

Believe what you want. A lot of us have seen the puppeteers with their hands up the puppets' backs as of late.

I add this- for these prophecies to come true, Israel HAS to be living righteously while the rest of the world goes to hell in a handbasket. GUESS WHAT. THEY are half the reason the world's *going* to hell!!!

[edit on 8-6-2010 by wylekat]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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Self fulfilled prophecy? Ha, I can see it now...

All the old testament prophets separately decided to make up some stuff about a future Messiah.

Then years later, TPTB decided they needed a false flag Messiah to create a world-wide gentile religion.

They found this guy that that closely fit the description of all the OT prophets.

They tortured and killed Him - then they hid His body.

Then they tortured and killed all the disciples so they wouldn't spread the story of His resurrection.


Ha, that's the most ridiculous conspiracy theory there is here at ATS - but you will be the ones to debunk it.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil 2:10-11 KJV

Jesus loves you.

Peace



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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Yah big surprise that a bunch of scrolls written by jews say that "God" says they are his special little pets and will inherit the earth and yada yada yada... In the mean time the rest of the christians reciting scripture to prove this are totally ignoring the fact that the jews totally reject jesus christ as the messiah! So they reject the son of god, but gods like oh its ok you're still my precious little children?
PROPAGANDA!!!!!



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Geez dude thats the same train of thought the Nazi's used when they burnt 6 million of them.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Israel as god's chosen people is an israeli invention

Israelis WROTE the alleged 'prophecy' !

That's the same as if Jessica Parker Whatsherface voted herself for an Oscar !

It's the same as Netanyahu voting himself for a Nobel Peace Prize !


It's the same as if France declared itself the uncontested winner of the World Cup !

It's the same as if Lady Gaga pronounced herself winner of the Good Taste Prize !


BUT --- if Israelis want to carp on about what their god supposedly SAID --- they should also be prepared to honour the REST of what THEY SAY GOD SAID -- namely: that jews may NOT gather together --- and may NOT reside in the HOly Lands --- UNTIL the coming of the Jewish messiah



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Loken68
 


Lest we forget


Lest WE forget?

How about lest THEY forget?

'God's arsenal shouldn't include (among many things) white phosphorus !!!

THEY need to remember who THEY are - and start acting like it!

peace


*THEY* are blood-thirsty, incest-practicing psychopathic Khazars.

They are NOT Hebrews. Were NOT Hebrews, will NEVER be Hebrews. That is why their actions are inhuman, rotten, and downright evil. God calls them the Synagogue of Satan, the people from ancient Mongolia (Magog,Gog), the ancient Turkish Khazars from the seed of Gomer, Gog from magog. God promises to destroy them. I wonder if they will call God an anti-Semite for giving them the justice they deserve?

[edit on 8-6-2010 by TSawyer]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:36 PM
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Holy Mother Of God !

Finally , someone who has actually did their homework !

Applause and a standing ovation to you sir !



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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Now let me get this straight...

A pack of bloodthirsty savages, whose only "contribution" to civilization seems to have been the merciless slaughter of everybody within marching distance, decide they better have some justification for their heinous behavior. So they scribble down some hocus-pocus about how its OK that they are barbarous because some imaginary being in the clouds says so.

Thousands of years later, they are still up to the same old crap and expect the rest of the world to accept the fact that at some time in the distant past some fictional overlord annointed them.

Sorry, the mistranslated carping from some ancient tribe (to which the modern Israelis have absolutely NO genetic connection) just doesn't wash.

The only quote that springs to mind is: "If I claimed I was an emperor because some watery bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!"

Epic fail, OP. Go back and tell Lt. Whatshername that you have failed as a disinformation specialist and should immediately be returned to your rightful position in Mossad - guarding latrines on the West Bank!


[edit on 8-6-2010 by Tholidor]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by warpcrafter
The NWO and their Israeli thugs have had things pretty good for quite a long time, but people are waking up to their ways, and soon their trickery and manipulation will be so widely exposed that they will have nowhere to hide.


You know, it's funny you mention the NWO and Israel, and I am not entirely convinced they are working together on any so-called Zionist agenda.

There is the seven headed beast of nations, the woman, the Dragon called satan and the devil (I believe this refers to the destroyer aspect of the Christ rather than satan or the devil who are separate beings as well), and the NWO is sitting back and are allowing the world nations to implode as we speak.

All the NWO has to do is pick up the pieces at the coming age, I mean if people actually believe Revelations to be real, then the NWO may ALSO believe and are getting their P's and Q's ready for when Christ and the Father are going to show up, but too many hardcore believers can't believe that. Besides that, what if the NWO has people that ACTUALLY talk to GOD on a direct basis and are prepared for the coming destruction?

Why not? Many of you believe in God, why can't he be intelligent and communicative just like anyone else? Because most people don't really believe, but the NWO might just, and they aren't going to take any risks when it comes to their continued survival.

I don't think the NWO is taking an active hand in our current situation, rather they are on the sidelines watching until perhaps these prophecies fulfill themselves. The bible has been interpreted so many ways to Sunday that getting a really clear picture is next to impossible, but I have a feeling that it might just be a little more accurate in an astoundingly different way than anyone could have bet on.

Just a hint, there are a number of historical references to PEOPLE known as the Dragon. I always grew up thinking it was a big knight eating devil thing, it might just be a historical personage that simply has slipped through the cracks. How he wipes the stars from the heavens is another story all together.

It does create a loose connection to ET life, if you consider a planet that shines a star (think on the time period here of the prophecy and the person interpreting it), and I don't want to know what his sickle is either.

There are not enough people who believe just yet, but in the near future things could just start really opening up. Wait and see.

[edit on 8-6-2010 by GideonHM]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:18 PM
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The meaning of "Thou shalt not kill" means...
you should not MURDER by taking innocent blood
Those on the flotilla attacking the commandos were not innocent.

God put government into place to protect their people , not to sit in a circle and sing songs.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:20 PM
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Star
Good insight. TPTB sitting on the sidelines trying to capitalize - much easier to put all the pieces together (for me anyway).

Its also possible TPTB ARE trying to fulfill prophesy for their advantage.

Or they may be trying to create the appearance of fulfillment in order to manipulate things to their advantage.

Or they may be trying to destroy earth and man just to piss God off.

There are all kinds of possibilities.

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According to prophecy...

Israel will suffer major losses when TSHF...

...but some righteous will escape.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Amen brother!
Someday EVERY knee will bow and every tongue will confess to the glory of God that JESUS CHRIST is LORD.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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Geez dude thats the same train of thought the Nazi's used when they burnt 6 million of them.


No- it's the train of thought that means that the prophecies are being fulfilled by humans.

Nothing was said about re extermination. A lot is being pointed out that it's all wrong in regards to stuff being fulfilled

[edit on 9-6-2010 by wylekat]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:26 PM
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My family is Jewish and thus I guess in this world that makes me Jewish. I just have to say it is ridiculous that the creator of the Universe (if he/she/it exists) would choose certain people out of the others. It just wouldn't/doesn't work that way. Besides the white jewish people from Europe weren't the Jews in the bible. My whole Jewish family has blue eyes and are really pale, I doubt we were walking around the desert for decades. With that being said, white Jews have earned being called Jews because they suffered enough as Jews to be called Jews in Europe.

But the chosen people nonsense is just lame and stupid. And if there is a god, he wouldn't be as childish and vindictive as he is in the bible. And if he is I'd rather be on Satan's side. At least he seems more fun.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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Never mind, it is too divisive an issue for me to get into right now. Edited out my prior post....



[edit on 8-6-2010 by jackflap]



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