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Clam boat pulls up canisters of mustard gas off NY, crew sickened

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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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This is crazy.

Makes you wonder what it did to the sea creatures around the radioactive dumping grounds???




posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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reply to post by At0mZer0
 

this is how we got Godzilla and Rodan.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:40 PM
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Guaranteed it's mustard gas. The problem they're gonna have with this stuff is that it causes PERMANENT damage to the respiratory tract, since chlorine will burn any flesh it touches, including lung tissue.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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makes you wonder who came up with such an evil idea. "lets make a gas that will melt the skin off of people and kill them in a very painfully slow way." even worse, the country who used this and agent orange, effing SOB's.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by itsallmaya
It just keeps getting worse and worse ....
Seems this dumping of govenment toxins and even artillery shells is nothing new.
Check out my link to documented finds in our oceans:

www.dailypress.com...

Quote from Daily Press article:
"What was long feared by the few military officials in the know had come to pass: Chemical weapons that the Army dumped at sea decades ago finally ended up on shore in the United States.

It's long been known that some chemical weapons went into the ocean, but records obtained by the Daily Press show that the previously classified weapons-dumping program was far more extensive than ever suspected.

The Army now admits that it secretly dumped 64 million pounds of nerve and mustard agents into the sea, along with 400,000 chemical-filled bombs, land mines and rockets and more than 500 tons of radioactive waste - either tossed overboard or packed into the holds of scuttled vessels."

Scary stuff!

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dear god, how can people do such horrible things to the ocean, it is our life support. just because we dumped it close to another country does not mean it won't affect us.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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Thankfully, this incident got some media attention, or at least was recognized. I'm guessing you were talking about this event.

reply to post by DOADOA
 


Agent Orange in and of itself was not particularly toxic to humans. What you're thinking of are the batches of it that were contaminated with dioxin.

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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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I just hope it's not linked to Plum Island
I live in Connecticut....

Bio-weapons research
The original anti-animal BW mission was "to establish and pursue a program of research and development of certain anti-animal (BW) agents".[13] By August 1954 animals occupied holding areas at Plum Island and research was ongoing within Building 257.[9] The USDA facility, known as the Plum Island Animal Disease Center, continued work on biological warfare research until the U.S. program was ended by Richard Nixon in 1969.[8] The bio-weapons research at Building 257 and Fort Terry was shrouded in aura of mystery and secrecy.[10][14] The existence of biological warfare experiments on Plum Island was denied for several decades by the U.S. government. In 1993 Newsday unearthed documents proving otherwise.[14]

The above info is from Wikipedia
Look it up!



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Plum Island is only a couple miles off the shore of Long Island. That's the former home of the infamous Fort Terry biological warfare research facility, and current home Dept of Ag's Animal Disease Center.
Prior to Plum Island Fort Terry, the Army's bio-war research was done on Horn Island, MS. That site was also used to detroy captured German mustard gas bombs
The Bug Bombs of Horn Island


The site was used to destroy captured German mustard gas bombs as well as phosgene in 1946-47 before being abandoned completely. Most of the then-unoccupied complex was destroyed completely by the Hurricane of 1947. In the 1970 the US Army disclosed that it had dumped large quantities of mustard gas and other chemical weapons that had been stockpiled at Horn Island in the deep canyons of the Gulf of Mexico just after world war two. Subsequent wild fires and hurricanes have reduced the structures to only a few buried foundation blocks and part of the brick incinerator. The island is today considered safe and is part of the Gulf Islands National Seashore.
The operation of testing US bio-war weapons moved quietly to Granite Peak at Dugway Proving Ground in Utah and Fort Terry on Plum Island New York which continues to this day to be involved in biological testing. It should be pointed out however that Mississippi remained a top secret proving ground for the military which even set off nuclear weapons near Purvis, MS in the only tests of a nuclear weapon east of the Mississippi river.


Quite possibly, Plum Island took over the disposal of mustard gas and phosgene after Horn Island was abandoned.

Certainly the US was dumping stuff in the North Atlantic. Also, clam-dredging has pulled up mustard gas before...summer 2004 for example.
The Deadliness Below


Barges often were piled high with one-ton steel containers of mustard gas to be thrown into the ocean in the 1940s and 1950s. More than a dozen such as this were unloaded off the coast of South Carolina. U.S. Army photo


In 1964, mustard gas canisters are pushed into the Atlantic Ocean off New Jersey. Millions of pounds were dumped this way. Photo courtesy of the U.S. Army


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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Has it crossed anybodies mind that right now as we speak terrorists are probably jumping for joy, high fiving each other and beginning to figure out how to retrieve these canisters of silent, deadly, effective poisonous gasses

UH-OH America!



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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That's a good point.

Is the earth coming up with something to attack us in the deeps with 50 tons of atomic waste to play with?



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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omg............CLOVERFIELD. It must have been one of those secret messages the illuminati are always putting in films, even though their plans are like, totally super secret!! /sarcasm



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:38 PM
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Surplus chemical weapons have been disposed of by dumping them in the sea for a long time,it was halted only fairly recently I believe.

Out of sight,out of mind...Just deep six it,and it's gone till somebody finds it like this boat did.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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I was wrong it was mustard gas.

Mustard gas caught

This article also raises the interesting question of whether these old caches are vulnerable to theft by terrorists.

news.yahoo.com...

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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Arkady
Has it crossed anybodies mind that right now as we speak terrorists are probably jumping for joy, high fiving each other and beginning to figure out how to retrieve these canisters of silent, deadly, effective poisonous gasses

UH-OH America!


I can only hope the above is satire since if terrorists really have to resort to digging up 10 canisters that have been in the ocean for possibly 50+ years, then someone needs to rid them of their terrorist award badge. Seriously.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Arkady
Has it crossed anybodies mind that right now as we speak terrorists are probably jumping for joy, high fiving each other and beginning to figure out how to retrieve these canisters of silent, deadly, effective poisonous gasses

UH-OH America!


why bother spending all that money to dig up old gas when they could just mix a few common household chemicals? WHY HASNT HOMELAND SECURITY STOPPED THE SALE OF BLEACH OMG



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by Arkady
Has it crossed anybodies mind that right now as we speak terrorists are probably jumping for joy, high fiving each other and beginning to figure out how to retrieve these canisters of silent, deadly, effective poisonous gasses

UH-OH America!


why bother spending all that money to dig up old gas when they could just mix a few common household chemicals? WHY HASNT HOMELAND SECURITY STOPPED THE SALE OF BLEACH OMG


I thought of this too, but I think military grade mustard gas is a little nastier and more potent than just ammonia and bleach mixed.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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And the closest biological warfare lab is where on Long Island. Wasn't it closed a few years ago?



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Very nice post !!

I believe you have found photographic evidence of these VERY same canisters.

And it is Mustard Gas.

Well I'll be.

WHY doesn't the US GOV post WARNINGS for these DUMP SITES???

The Gov put that junk there, it is THEIR responsibility!
1) Either post tons of warnings to fishermen to avoid the location.
or
2) Send out a Gov cleanup crew and remove all of those canisters and DISPOSE of them PROPERLY.

TY for the link Primus. Very Nice addition to the thread!



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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From the link Primus gave us.
www.commondreams.org...


The Army now admits that it secretly dumped 64 million pounds of nerve and mustard agents into the sea, along with400,000 chemical-filled bombs, land mines and rockets and more than 500 tons of radioactive waste - either tossed overboard or packed into the holds of scuttled vessels.


Holy Crapola!

That sounds Extremely bad.

I put bold on the parts that were craziest.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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Project CHASE (Cut Holes And Sink "Em) - derelict old ships from surplus
fleet were loaded with old chemical munitions towed out to sea and scuttled in deep ocean. Took place in late 1960's




In the late 1960s, the US canceled its chemical weapons programs and began the destruction of its stockpiles of agents by a variety of methods. Early disposal included the US Army's CHASE (Cut Holes And Sink 'Em) program, in which old ships were filled with chemical weapons stockpiles and then scuttled. CHASE 8[citation needed] was conducted on June 15, 1967, in which the S.S. Cpl. Eric G. Gibson was filled with 7,380 VX rockets and scuttled in 7,200 feet (2,200 m) of water, off the coast of Atlantic City, New Jersey.



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