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The root of all conflicts

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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:36 PM
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Have you ever asked yourself why humans fight each other, either between neighbors, family, co-workers or even countries…? The answer may surprise some of you for it is one that is very simple in nature: Beliefs!!

Any ideology, any philosophy or any religion plays a big role in the belief phenomena. The many different belief systems in existence create what we commonly call divisions, and these divisions can cause wars and suffering. But you may ask this question: How can we live our life without any trace of beliefs? The answer is a little more intricate, but easily explainable.

For thousands of years, mankind has relied on different ideologies as well as experiences from the past, in other words, the memory of the human race. Also, beliefs secure the ego that doesn’t know. Again, you may ask, is there another possible way? The answer is YES!! The problem for most humans is that they are unable to answer on their own the existential questions they have. Why? They have lost the connection to their own source, their own light, or if you prefer, the universal memory. The bible refers to this loss as “the original sin”. If humans would have their own answers, in other words, if they would get the answers from their own source, they wouldn’t need belief systems on this planet. So, if the beliefs disappear from the human experience, there is no more conflict of any kind.

Any thoughts?




posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:01 PM
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the current state the world is in right now is percentaged to the population the most peaceful of all times.
imagine humans 20.000 years ago, more hostile environment, no medicine, food hard to get, no police (the stronger ones rules with terror and violence, no matter what), no insurances etc.



[edit on 7-6-2010 by icepack]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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Fear is the root of all evil.

But I pretty much agree with what you have said. Ultimately most of what forms our reality is other peoples opinions and perceptions - if we can assimilate and build on what is/has been done in the past, and consciously create our future, we would be alot better.

There is a difference between clinging to the past, and learning from the past - and alot of religious dogma and political ideology and methodology is deeply rooted in the past - and hasn't taken that step into the 21 century we are all waiting for.

But ultimately the individual is culpable to a degree.

Bruce Lee's philosophy was:

Take What Works
Regect What Doesn't
Create What Isn't There



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:16 PM
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Beliefs are sadly often used in an attempt to justify conflict... but conflict is normally caused by...

Fear, Jealousy and greed...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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Humans fight each other because of conflicts, its perfectly normal/stupid. Beliefs are created by the mind because the matrix does not provide answers for questions regarding this reality. All conflicts are raised by belief? partially, but most of times conflicts rise because of the love of power/resources. Please don't look at conflicts as a bad thing, its part of it, its perfect the way it is. Some beliefs are spiritual very powerfull, and are benfitial to the mind. conflicts are meant to be here, everything that happens is bound to happen, the matrix is perfect.

[edit on 7-6-2010 by cyberjedi]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by lagenese
Have you ever asked yourself why humans fight each other, either between neighbors, family, co-workers or even countries…? The answer may surprise some of you for it is one that is very simple in nature: Beliefs!!

Any ideology, any philosophy or any religion plays a big role in the belief phenomena. The many different belief systems in existence create what we commonly call divisions, and these divisions can cause wars and suffering. But you may ask this question: How can we live our life without any trace of beliefs? The answer is a little more intricate, but easily explainable.

For thousands of years, mankind has relied on different ideologies as well as experiences from the past, in other words, the memory of the human race. Also, beliefs secure the ego that doesn’t know. Again, you may ask, is there another possible way? The answer is YES!! The problem for most humans is that they are unable to answer on their own the existential questions they have. Why? They have lost the connection to their own source, their own light, or if you prefer, the universal memory. The bible refers to this loss as “the original sin”. If humans would have their own answers, in other words, if they would get the answers from their own source, they wouldn’t need belief systems on this planet. So, if the beliefs disappear from the human experience, there is no more conflict of any kind.

Any thoughts?

I wonder why all the believes other than believes that the only possible and probable things in reality is Mundane and Mediocre things are just makes people fights each other throughout history?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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Bruce Lee's philosophy was:

Take What Works
Regect What Doesn't
Create What Isn't There


Bruce Lee also said, "Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life."

Sorry but quoting Bruce Lee, the penultimate fighter, in a thread about beliefs and the conflicts they cause doesn't quite cut it.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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Context is an under-abundant commodity in almost all communication these days - shame really...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by icepack
the current state the world is in right now is percentaged to the population the most peaceful of all times.
imagine humans 20.000 years ago, more hostile environment, no medicine, food hard to get, no police (the stronger ones rules with terror and violence, no matter what), no insurances etc.



[edit on 7-6-2010 by icepack]

Look at the current state of the world: There's lot of Famine, Wars, and other provlems



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Muckster

Beliefs are sadly often used in an attempt to justify conflict... but conflict is normally caused by...

Fear, Jealousy and greed...


Muckster, perfectly summed up.

Nice to see someone is honest.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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The New World Order has a solution for that my friend, everyone with the same beliefs and forced obedience. Same beliefs and peace,... what a lie. Peace without freedom is peace without joy, peace without joy is not peace.

Seriously though I would argue conflict is more about scarce resources and less about beliefs. Diamonds, land, water, food, and the list goes on. Belief can also lessen the impact of conflicts, if one believes the situation will get better and that a system of distribution is at least somewhat fair, they are less likely to fight. Likewise religious or philosophic beliefs can lift one above the physical, as per Ghandi:

“Peace is not something you wish for; It's something you make, Something you do, Something you are, And something you give away.”

I would argue in most cases less belief = more conflict. In addition the more you believe, i.e. have a true confidence, in something as truth the less likely you are to try and force it on another.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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Sorry, all wars are fought for economic reasons, not beliefs. The only people who think they are fighting for their 'beliefs' are the delusional middle and lower classes. Beliefs, racism, etc. are just used to further an Us vs. Them mentality.
Imagine the first conflict. There is no language of any kind. One person is eating a small meal, another person comes by with nothing, and he is hungry. He tries to somehow show him he wants to eat, but obviously cannot really communicate. The other person figures it out but does not want to give up what small amount he has. They fight, one of them wins. Every other war was just an expansion on that. The only thing that changed is someone figured out it was better to get everyone else to fight while they ran off with all the resources.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:39 PM
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Exactly.

Instinctively we want to be the leader. Its why governments collapse and churches separate and branch out; someone doesn't agree or doesn't like how they are being affected so they take the matter into their own hands so it becomes the way they want it to be. Same reason there will never be world peace or the like, someone will always disagree for personal gain. Now being self-centered isn't quite a bad thing in terms of survival but to be so perpetually to the point force is used to get your way, is just destructive. If the entire population were to be wiped out, its because one group doesn't think people deserve to be alive or don't think they appreciate life so as punishment they take it away. Or they just don't want to go down on the ship alone.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Animals don't have beliefs,
animals fight each other,
they just don't try and justify themselves to cool their consciences,
neither do they have existential dilemmas.

Atleast,
if one person kills another over the territory of the ego,
he attemps to rationalize the good and dispel the evil.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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If you boil it down, economic reasons are a 'belief' - The belief that I am better, and therefor I choose not to share, and force you to give what you have, to me.

Feels like something rooted in belief to me, and one rooted in Fear may I add.

But I get what you are saying.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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So that would include secular scientific 'beliefs' as well?




posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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Agreed.

The full context of what one says must be considered in order to interpret a single quote. Bruce Lee was referring to the philosophy of his own unique fighting style Jeet Kune Do in that quote, nothing more nothing less.

It does not refer to a philosophy on life, conflict, belief, or any else.

[edit on 7-6-2010 by slane69]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Ah, the fear factor! I know what causes fear. The main cause is the subjective approach to thoughts and events. If people would remain objective, meaning, with no emotional involvement, the fear could not affect those people in any way, shape or form. But thanks for this input, it is one of great importance.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 03:16 AM
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true, but overall mankind has a much better time today than for example 20.000 years ago. all the improvement that has been made since those ancient times you shouldnt ignore. its still a point of view, optimist or pessimist, glass half full or glass half empty. very individual perception.





[edit on 8-6-2010 by icepack]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:22 AM
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I would honestly hate a world without conflict. You really need conflict to open your eyes to this experience. I always talk about the saying, I would never learn anything if everyone agreed with me, and its true. Our ignorance clouds wisdom, and you need disagreement and problems to understand what truly is best in this experience.
I encourage beliefs, because my beliefs would have little worth if I could not compare them.



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