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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Icarus Rising
Our society today, imo, is bent on removing men as head of household and replacing them with the state. This study falls right in line with that trend. God help us all when they succeed.



Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
Wishy washy kids (and apathetic adults) is certainly a NWO agenda.


The above is not out of the question - regarding replacing the father figure with the state. It is certainly something I could see TPTB trying to pull off.

But honestly, this DOES NOT mean that lesbians make bad parents. The two are unrelated, we should try not to confuse two separate issues here.




posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:31 PM
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I don't have a problem with homosexuals at all, but this article sent up red flags. I know a lot about child psychology and a to well behave teen is just as much of a sign of problems as a out of control teen. A healthy teen is rebellious and has times of aggression because that is makes the transition from childhood to adulthood. having been a well behaved teenager myself, I know in many cases it is due to insecurity and the beliefs that if you are good and well behaved more people will like you.
No I don't believe kids raised by homosexuals become gay themselves. How ever the only ones I have know first hand, did become extremely promiscuous at a young age to go out of their way to prove they were not gay.

In every type of family their are good parents and bad parents, there are good Muslim parents just as their are bad homosexual parents. I don't think you can base someones parenting skills on their religion or sexual orientation. I do however think bulling for these children is still a huge problem, and that that would be the main source of any emotional problems if their parents were good parents.
In many cases two parents are better than one, but as a single mother myself, that is not always the case.especially in today's society were both mom and dad work.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower


Which technically is quantified behaviour criteria. There's a reason they made it this way versus clinical. Clinical studies do provide bias answers as well you know.


Behavioral studies cannot determine correlations. There is no way to alter an independent variable to see the effects on the dependant variable.

So basically their conclusions might as well have been pulled out of their butts...hehe



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Icarus Rising


Talk about a biased study! I guess the sponsor should have been a childless eunuch to give the study some balance.

It is not surprising in the society we live in today that these children are less aggressive and had fewer social problems. Just look at what this society has done to the image of men and fathers in the last 40 years.

I'm sure these kids will make good little widgets. But is that what is best for them, or the rest of us?

www.msnbc.msn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Would you prefer they were more aggressive and have more social problems? Would you prefer more violence or something? If the study is correct than I would go over there and ask the Lesbian ladies what they are doing so my kid doesn't turn into a basketcase.

Most of this is generational differences. I was born in 82, i'm young, straight and I've been outside of the U.S. I've seen a lot. None of this phases me anymore. I learned a long time ago that I need to worry about my own boat as opposed to someone else's. It's not going away. People aren't going to stop being gay. There is nothing we can do about it. People just need to get over it.

[edit on 7-6-2010 by antonia]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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But honestly, this DOES NOT mean that lesbians make bad parents. The two are unrelated, we should try not to confuse two separate issues here.


Good point. I am not trying to say that lesbians make bad parents. Imo, choosing to be a lesbian should preclude having children at all. Again, that's just me. My apologies to all the good lesbian parents out there.

My fundamentalist Christain beliefs have a hard boundary here. Marriage is only defined in the context of between a man and a woman. Children are the product of a marriage. To me, that is the way it is supposed to be, ordained by God, the author and creator of the universe and all that is in it. Anything else is outside of His will. We can see the results of living outside of God's will for us all around us today. It isn't good, and it isn't going to last much longer in its present form.

It is ok for a woman to love another woman, or a man to love another man. Storg love, phileo love, agape love if we can manage it, but not eros love.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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in my opinion we will see more reports like this
I believe the powers that be want more gays and lesbians

I dont' know why, maybe for depopulation

But all you need to do is turn the TV on and you'll see they are trying to do.

Perhaps is certain secret societies praising pagan beings that are both man and woman like Baphomet I don't know
That's the consipracy theorist in me talking hehe

But I do see a trend though



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:45 PM
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I really hate to be put in a position to sound sexist, but...

Good luck with the line of reasoning toots. Women sure are so much more equipped than men, which is why men for thousands of years have occupied the majority of leadership positions and other positions of power. Gee, wait a second, if women are soooo much better than men(here's a hint: they aren't, they're equal) why hasn't that completely been turned on it's head? Why are women still lagging? is it because us big bad ol' mean men just won't let them? As if a woman needs the permission of a man to do so much as blow her nose.


Give me a break.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by hotbakedtater
Of course these kids do well, and it does not surprise me at all. Females are the superior of the sexes in all ways, but especially child rearing.


Not sure what you are suggesting, but kids respond to each male and female parent differently. Some roles the mom is best at and some roles the dad is best at, and this provides the best environment possible. Now throw in any number of negative factors and even the 80 year old drunken grandpa could be the best choice compared to what is available for the child, so with that said there are a lot worst environments a child can be in than with a loving gay couple, but I would not suggest it is equal or better than a heterosexual couples, or provides a great living environment without any issues.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by super genius
i wouldnjt mind living with a couple of lesbians
if they are super hot


Yeah! but in this senario one or both would be your mum as you would be the child of a lesbian couple, maybe that's your thing I don't know. Either way you haven't quite thought it through...

I don't find this surprising at all, the child probably stays late in school so they don't have to come home and see the abonination that is same sex partnerships...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
in my opinion we will see more reports like this
I believe the powers that be want more gays and lesbians

I dont' know why, maybe for depopulation

But all you need to do is turn the TV on and you'll see they are trying to do.

Perhaps is certain secret societies praising pagan beings that are both man and woman like Baphomet I don't know
That's the consipracy theorist in me talking hehe

But I do see a trend though


There is no trend. It is simply increased visablity. You know, no one has to hide anymore for fear of being burned at the stake and all that?
en.wikipedia.org...

In fact, the rates have gone down a bit. Don't confuse increased visibility with an increase in overall population.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:48 PM
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Women and men aren't equal
they are different

Homosexuals and heterosexuals aren't equal, they are different



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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I tend to disagree. Our differences are the exact thing that make us equal as individuals.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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Of course men and women are equal... As are homosexuals and hetrosexuals.

You can be different and equal you know?

Also as others have said, there is no agenda, no conspiracy.... It's just now that homosexuals are "allowed" to have normal lives and raise children if they choose to.

There's no conspiracy.



[edit on 7/6/10 by blupblup]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

You can be different and equal you know?


You are equating equality with rights too much.

Homosexuals and Heteros are completely different from each other.
That doesn't mean homosexuals are lesser people


Originally posted by blupblup
Also as others have said, there is no agenda, no conspiracy.... It's just now that homosexuals are "allowed" to have normal lives and raise children if they choose to.

There's no conspiracy.


There's recently a thread about celebrities and music artists being forced to wear women's clothing.
Check it out

There is a conspiracy



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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Ok, I can agree that having a cross reference data such as that of "conventional" families would have been better for the results, although there are thousands of studies already available on these subjects.

I also somewhat agree that the role of men in the family unit has been steadily demoralized and there is an on going attempt to make that the norm.

I disagree that gender roles aren't interchangeable however.

Our children, whenever a "female" problem arose, had friends, family members who are women to go to when we really could not help.

Parenting as the article states is about giving your children a healthy and productive environment. That's all you need to raise succesfull children, whether it be conventional or non conventional.

~Keeper

[edit on 6/7/2010 by tothetenthpower]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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If you put a man and a woman on a scale, they balance each other out. They do that because they are different. A women is strong were a man has weak points and vice versa.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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I'm not equating it with rights.... I'm saying they are equal... because they are.
How are they not equal? I'm not saying they're the same.... but they most certainly are equal.

Who else Isn't equal in your opinion? I'd be interested to see.


As for the women's clothing thing?? WTF?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup
I'm not equating it with rights.... I'm saying they are equal... because they are.
How are they not equal? I'm not saying they're the same.... but they most certainly are equal.

Who else Isn't equal in your opinion? I'd be interested to see.


Question 1) Do Heterosexuals Need Homosexuals To Survive?
Question 2) Do Homosexuals Need Heterosexuals To Survive?

What do you say?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia


Question 1) Do Heterosexuals Need Homosexuals To Survive?
Question 2) Do Homosexuals Need Heterosexuals To Survive?

What do you say?




1. No

2. No

Ever hear of artificial insemination and adoption... and surrogacy?

I say answer my other question.... who else Isn't equal in your opinion.




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