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Please help, very confused. Jesus...feels scary? My twin involved...

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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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I think the pope visits you to think about him and through him only you should see jesus. So pray to the Pope.

On a serious note leave all the jesus stuff and just simply meditate for higher consciousness which is the only truth.




posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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Sounds like a spiritual attack/interference.

MANY Christians, myself included, experience 'interference' when trying get close to God.

I would pray about it and rebuke it in the name of Jesus.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by chaosinorder
I think the pope visits you to think about him and through him only you should see jesus. So pray to the Pope.

On a serious note leave all the jesus stuff and just simply meditate for higher consciousness which is the only truth.


Well said, i just don't know what this higher consciousness is all about, i keep hearing it in pseudoscience chatter. I know about lucid dreams and such like but i wasn't aware it was named high conciousness.

All i believe in is the truth of reality, and the progression of science for the good of mankind, what more could you ask for?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Just go ahead and make the commitment. Pray out loud so the demons can hear you.

Just ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins. Thank Him for giving His life to cancel your sins. Ask Him to fill you with His Holy Spirit.

Once the Holy Spirit is present with you, all evil forces will leave. They can't stand to be in the presents of God.

I will also pray for protection for you and your twin.

Peace



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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I would advise you to think about Christ while you are outside experiencing His creation, and not at night time. Bad things are attracted to darkness because they are evil. There are people in the world who pray every night to combat the evil things demons (and people) do while half of the earth is in darkness.

Better yet, find a good old Catholic church that has not been wreckovated, (look for pews, kneelers, statues and a gold Tabernacle front and center) one that looks like the great cathedrals that God inspired man to build in Europe. Just go in and be silent and let God do what he does best, touch your heart so that it burns with a fire of Love for Him.

There are those that say there is no God, but I would say look at anything in
the microcosm to anything in the macrocosm, and tell me that it was not
designed! Man cannot make a single thing out of nothing and Satan can't either, so he has to be content with mocking God and His Church and His creation. And if you feel this demonic thing again, just tell it that the Power of Christ compels it to leave you and your twin alone!



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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I think I know the problem. It isn't hay-sus. It's Gee-sus.

I think the problem is with you as opposed to Jesus. He was the most peaceful guy ever. You'd probably get more trouble out of Ghandi.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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I have to agree with theuhstuf, the real man died a very long time ago, and factually he never one time said he was anything but a man. Having studied the Occult teachings for most of my life, I often "see" things of a paranormal nature. About three years ago I was sitting in my daughter's car meditating on things, and suddenly saw two distinct beings, one says he is Jesus, the other says he is Satan, and both looking like Dragons to me. They both demanded my faith and worship, which I of course refused. The one I took as Jesus admitted he was an Annunaki, and not a God at all.
Since that time, every time I get near a Church, or even a group of Christians, I get an overwhelming feeling of evil emitting from them. The real Jesus dies, and the Holy Church is in league with the Draconians/Reptilians. when you pray to "Jesus," who is a dead human being, your power/energy goes to something else altogether than who you think.

I know, it is hard and difficult to pull away from something you have been taught to believe in, but the fact is, the true God/Goddess lives inside us all, not "out there" someplace.
Perhaps the OP would like to read my post on this?
The God and Goddess, Father and Mother, and the Conspiracy to keep us from Knowing



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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Do not lose your faith or allow the powers of darkness or their counterparts of mankind, to pull you away from God. Stay strong. Stay focused. Continue to pray, but do NOT be afraid!

Ephesians 6:10-20 Christian Warfare

10 Finally, be strengthened by the Lord and by His vast strength. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can stand against the tactics of the Devil. 12 For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens. 13 This is why you must take up the full armor of God, so that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having prepared everything, to take your stand. 14 Stand, therefore,

with truth like a belt around your waist,

righteousness like armor on your chest,

15 and your feet sandaled with readiness for the gospel of peace.

16 In every situation take the shield of faith,

and with it you will be able to extinguish

the flaming arrows of the evil one.

17 Take the helmet of salvation,

and the sword of the Spirit, which is God's word.

18 With every prayer and request, pray at all times in the Spirit, and stay alert in this, with all perseverance and intercession for all the saints. 19 Pray also for me, that the message may be given to me when I open my mouth to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel. 20 For this I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I might be bold enough in Him to speak as I should.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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I'm going to take a very different approach, than some of the other christians in this thread.

From what I can tell, it sounds as if you are ready to take your relationship with God, to the next level. Do you realize, that if every christian mystic that has ever lived rebuked the things they didn't first understand, well, then we wouldn't have any christian mystics.

The first thing you must understand is that God works at night just as much as he does during the day. A good look at the scriptures and this is easily proven. Just as he formed the light he created the darkness. Then you need to admit to yourself that yes you were scared but you were not hurt. In essence, you knocked on his door, felt a presence that scared you and then ran from the door. Imagine if you were Daniel, or John of Revelations or even Paul on the road to Damascus - they all fell on their faces as if they were dead at his feet.

The next thing you need to know is that your fear is very normal. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. He's not going to hurt you and he's not going to let some sinister spirit hurt you. Next time, when you are ready to knock, apply Jesus' teaching of humbling yourself like a child and tell him the truth - that you want to know the truth. Asking, seeking and knocking is the Lord's personal formula.

There are people in this thread telling you to rebuke. What if you did open a door and not understanding what you may experience you rebuke a messenger of God or even the messenger of the covenant? Do you even know who these messengers are? From a spiritual standpoint before you get to God, you go through Jesus but before you even get to him, you will go through the messenger of the covenant who prepares his way, who is John the Baptist. But even before you get to John, there is Elijah.

Both Elijah and John are messengers. These two go before the Lord in spirit and power. Scripture says that they will both turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers. Basically, the spirit and power they yield will scare you. But your body is a temple and the promise is that "suddenly" the Lord you desire will come to his temple.

Most christians that I know, that have encountered the presence of Elijah thought it was something evil and rebuked him. But if they would have truly understood scripture, they would have realized how he revives the spirit of the lowly and was in all actuality a stepping stone of sorts to an even greater reality. Figure out how Elijah resurrected the one boy and anyone with their spiritual thinking cap on can easily say what nighttime phenomena Elijah is related to.



[edit on 9-6-2010 by Myrtales Instinct]



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench
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I have to agree with theuhstuf, the real man died a very long time ago, and factually he never one time said he was anything but a man. Having studied the Occult teachings for most of my life, I often "see" things of a paranormal nature. About three years ago I was sitting in my daughter's car meditating on things, and suddenly saw two distinct beings, one says he is Jesus, the other says he is Satan, and both looking like Dragons to me. They both demanded my faith and worship, which I of course refused. The one I took as Jesus admitted he was an Annunaki, and not a God at all.
Since that time, every time I get near a Church, or even a group of Christians, I get an overwhelming feeling of evil emitting from them. The real Jesus dies, and the Holy Church is in league with the Draconians/Reptilians. when you pray to "Jesus," who is a dead human being, your power/energy goes to something else altogether than who you think.

I know, it is hard and difficult to pull away from something you have been taught to believe in, but the fact is, the true God/Goddess lives inside us all, not "out there" someplace.
Perhaps the OP would like to read my post on this?
The God and Goddess, Father and Mother, and the Conspiracy to keep us from Knowing



This is creepy. I really don't know what to think.

When sensing that presence, I was actually getting an impression of it's physical appearance... Judging by the image I was getting at the time it reminded me of an alien gray but different eyes and it looked haggard. It was gray skinned, but it's skin was not smooth, it was humanoid, skinny, huge camelon-like red eyes, it's eyes felt like it was looking through me, and it had a straggly strands of gray hair. It was always elevated at 5-6 feet in the air...this thing felt so damned serious, with no room for human empathy. It was very scary. Alien or not, it definitely wasn't human.

I have no idea why it felt like it looked like this. Just the impression that I got from it. I also know it wasn't right whatever it was.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Originally posted by mishmallow8
So...weird things will happen when I start thinking about Jesus. I was laying in bed at night and I recall an article about GOD being so beyond our comprehension and existence that you need a "bridge" to be closer to god. So I wondered if Jesus is this bridge, like Buddha and other notable religious guides..etc.

First off, Christianity is a Monotheistic religion, you should not be thinking of Buddha if you are thinking of Christ. You either believe in Christ or you believe in something else. To do otherwise is to open yourself up to what you are experiencing, which is called spiritual warfare.


Originally posted by mishmallow8
So I start to thinking about Jesus...and I start to open my heart.....and then I get scared. Not about the whole topic, but I feel like something is in the room is um..... watching me. I "feel" like this thing is want to gain control of me, and it just doesn't feel right at all. So I get scared and stop thinking about the whole thing and go to sleep. Maybe Im going crazy?

If you accept that there is a Jesus Christ, then you accept that there is a Satan. Spiritual Warfare is when Satan causes feelings and confusions in your life that draw you away from accepting a deeper relationship with Christ. That is what you and your sister are experiencing.


Originally posted by mishmallow8
Fast forward a year later...and I get curious about Jesus again....so before I fell asleep, I ask Jesus that I want to get closer to god...and if I have to go through him, I don't mind. Again, I GOT VERY SCARED and sense something watching me.

Of course, Satan used this tactic before, and apparently scared you away from accepting Christ for a whole year already, he is going to continue to do the same thing over and over again in the hopes that it will keep you from becoming a Christian. You cannot be a halfway Christian, the evil one will mess with you every time he gets the chance to interfere with you becoming a Christian otherwise.

Spititual Warfare
Spiritual warfare is the concept that the Devil and demons attempt to thwart Good and the will of God. Some believe this "warfare" to be manifested in multiple ways, including by demonic possession, demonic harassment, by attacks on a person's thoughts, relationships, or life with God.

Hope that makes sense and helps...


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Just sharing...I feel like somebody(s) from this thread actually prayed for my protection. It's the same feeling you get when a neighbor helps you out in times of need. Thank you very, very much. And it looked super blue and white.

I'm really sorry if I am annoying some people here. I just feel the need to be honest.

I don't know where I stand spiritually yet...I just know what I feel in my heart and honesty. I have one feet in and one out. I understand where the skeptics and cynics are coming from. I come from a scientific family. I live at the Space Coast. Most of my family works as engineers for KSC. I think scientist can do a great deal to save humanity. Having a mind of a scientist requires one to be focused, even if it means having to brush off squishy stuff like "higher conscious" and things like that. But you will always be undeniably curious about it. We are still living in the past, because a lot of us are ahead of our time. However, I can't ignore my instincts as an individual. There is something out there that hasn't been revealed yet, I believe that scientist will ironically help us understand someday.

In the mean time....I don't mind religion coming from peaceful people.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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Ok well. I accepted Jesus fully in my heart. And some things happened today...that's...well, interesting.

I meditated again last night, and I understood why Jesus choose the Fish as his symbol. I had one foot in and one foot out and actually had to go into the water and learn how to swim. I learned how to breath, and fly underwater like a fish. As individuals, we are sometimes so far away from the ocean, that we don't see it, but we know it's there, just don't care to visit it yet. And there nothing wrong with that...we go when we are ready, and have time for it, eventually.

I choose to go into the water and I felt free and safe. I felt like a child that went from an unstable environment to a safe home. I felt very safe and things that once scared me, couldn't reach me any longer. (thanks to a prayer from here, i have a feeling that somebody's prayer helped more than they think)

So, later I fell asleep and I dreamed that I was sitting in a chair next to a girl my age. It felt like we were in a sort of contest together. We've been criticized before. So I sat in this chair for the final time. The clothes that I was wearing, stood out to me, as its not something i'd wear. I wore a dark floral dress, with a white cardigan. When it was my turn to go up to the judges a long haired white dog with a big black nose, accompanied me when I walked up to the judges. My hair was very long (my hair is short in real life) and I was surprised by my "makeover".

I wasn't particularity looking forward to the harsh criticism but instead, of being criticized they really liked what they saw. They felt like I grew as a person, they were very proud of me.

I wake up. Feeling positive.

Checked the mail.

There were only two things in the mail. My brand new cellphone, and my magazine.

I opened up my cellphone. I found some text messages. They were passages from the bible. I'm a taken a back a little...I didn't know AT&T signs you up for these kinds of things but it was there....here's a picture.

i21.photobucket.com...


And the cover of the magazine stood out? It's a dove.

i21.photobucket.com...

So I opened up the catalog, wondering If I could find a similar dress I had in my dream because I thought it was cute... I found more than a similar outfit....

i21.photobucket.com...

I also found the same white cardigan, with a white dog behind her. She's sitting on a bed, where you sleep to dream. And the girl in the other picture is pointing UP.

Im just...happy. What a nice sign. To some a coincidence.

I know this will annoy some...but I really had to share this.
Thank you your help.





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posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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Interesting story.

I wouldn't worry about it.

This sort of thing is actually more normal than you know, but panicking will only cause you further problems.

Relax, don't be afraid, and you will be fine.

----

P.S. "Please help, very confused. Jesus...feels scary? My twin involved..."

Wow, so many elements in such few words yet offhand makes absolutely no sense.
That title should win "ATS Title Of The Year".

- Lee



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 05:57 PM
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Oh good lord, I put it up to just being silly about no knowlede of religion. Sad to see, that people take this kind of thread in the least bit serious.

I'm all for having a new forum on ATS, for serioulsy, inept souls.

Be yourelf, is all that is needed, no religion, or battereed into your brain past experience, included!



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Blanca Rose
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Oh good lord, I put it up to just being silly about no knowlede of religion. Sad to see, that people take this kind of thread in the least bit serious.

I'm all for having a new forum on ATS, for serioulsy, inept souls.

Be yourelf, is all that is needed, no religion, or battereed into your brain past experience, included!



"Sad to see, that people take this kind of thread in the least bit serious." - I found people here to be very helpful and kind and Im glad they shared their thoughts....and criticism.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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Hi Mishmallow8,
I sent you a u2u you should really check it out it is very serious.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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Meditate first on love, using pets, friends, and family to trigger the warm glow in your heart.

Ask God to fill you with more love, and while God is indeed beyond comprehension, It has plenty of time and attention for you.


From that place, call on Jesus. Not everyone can connect to Jesus (the Bible says that explicitly), but for those who do...wow, Master Jedi Extraordinaire...he is an amazing teacher and friend.

Peace and love to you,

Namaste.



posted on Jun, 9 2010 @ 10:28 PM
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Hi there mishmallow8. Interesting name you have there. Listen, don't be creeped out by ETs, I know, some do look way different than us, but the ones I have met and talked to I find to be kinds and intelligent. Once I was in a really bad car wreck, I almost died from my many broken bones and internal injuries. I was taken away from the hospital, my Spirit form anyway, and taken to a different sort of hospital. this one is like a ward, with rows of beds in a common room, and the head Doctor, no, i know this will sound crazy, but the head Doc looks like a very big monarch butterfly, with little round glasses and a stethoscope around his, uh, neck? A very kind being, I was healed up in no time.

In my travels, I have seen a lot of things, some human, so definitely not human, but fear is the wrong thing to have if you let it run you. To me, fear is my friend, he sits upon my shoulder and whispers things in my ear.




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