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A) Most videos show the soldiers at the moment they're descending down from the helicopter and you can see they're not shooting, which means the only option is if they shot them before they landed which leads me to-
B) No dead or wounded bodies on deck at the moments the soldiers descend.. Do you really think they had time to hide the bodies? And even if they did, why would they do that?
C) A helicopter can be heard miles away, also everyone was well aware of the approaching IDF because they came with ships as well, and if that's not enough- the sound of a gun is very loud and can be heard clearly and easily from miles away. So how come there is no footage, no video, no picture, nothing of the forces shooting at the ship? Why aren't there videos of wounded BEFORE the landing of the soldiers? So many news agencies and no one had their camera ready?
No, instead we are told to believe that the soldiers fired shots just before they started shooting the video... I mean, seriously? Does that make sense? What happened, you forgot to take the lens cap?
D) It hasn't been confirmed by any news agency, as far as I know, so far it is being treated as hear say, rumors, and stories. And believe me, media spins are easy to create, and hard to disqualify, as they tend to spread regardless of solid proof.
E) Shooting from a distance and then going down with paintball guns just makes no sense.
F) Do you really think that if they had shot at the activists they would have missed? These are navy seals, so how come there's no evidence of people being show with M16 or rifle bullets and only 9mm pistol bullets?
I can go on thinking of more holes but I'm sure this is enough..
I saw the "weapons." Not very convincing.
Paintball guns??? Are you serious??? I've been shot by them and then also the real thing. I wonder which one I preferred???
A knife??? I'm sure you've heard that old saying, "NEVER BRING A KNIFE TO A GUNFIGHT." Hence 9 people dead and 20 injured. How about a boxcutter...did you buy that one too???
I'm sorry guy, but the Israelis are a bunch of liars. They've lost many of their allies for their actions, and they lost them for a reason.
There were Europeans on that ship, plus the MARINE who saw exactly what they did.
Its funny how your information isn't being ran in any REAL media source
As it was later discovered, there wasn't a single gun on the flotilla
The gunfire that they heard was their own.
it still sounds like complete hogwash
Originally posted by brutalsun
Until Ken can produce a unit, division something other than "I'm a former Marine" he's full of thick brown stuff. Any Marine worth his salt can tell you EXACTLY what he did and WHERE he did it. For instance one of my close friends exclaims all the time " Lance Corporal Mike G&&&&, 3rd LAR bravo company 29 palms" Granted he served during Somalia and things change, but Marines don't. People run around all day long and "claim" to be Marines, but you can weed them out pretty quick. Even if he was discharged under less than honorable, he should have a dd214. I would be interested in viewing that.
There is a certain lingo that those in the military in general use with each other and we can tell who has and who hasn't served. It's like a brick layer trying to speak geek with a network specialist... just sounds off.
[edit on 8-6-2010 by brutalsun]
Originally posted by Eliad
Uhhh.. What's not convincing about knives, hammers, hatchets and rods? You seem to only see what you want to see, my friend.
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Cry me a river Eliad...
We also saw a group of so called special ops,armed to the teeth with fully automatic assault rifles attacking an aid convoy in international waters.
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
reply to post by nenothtu
Erm,watch one of the videos of the assault on the aid convoy maybe??
Listen to some of the testimonies of those on board who witnessed people being shot in the head,maybe?
Or is the internet censored where you live?
Actually, you're making a fool of yourself by defending an indefensible (Why is it indefensible? What are your arguments?) position. There are only a fringe element of people(Who are those people? What makes them fringe? Who decided that they're fringe? You?) who still hold your views and defend Israel's psychotic (What makes it psychotic? Who decided that it's psychotic? You?) behavior, and right now, that isn't a very popular or intelligent (What is the correlation between popular and intelligent? What makes my opinion not intelligent? The fact that it's not yours?) position to take. Most individuals who are capable of critical and logical thought processes don't support violence (Neither do I, has anything I said made you think otherwise? Please quote. Has any of the arguments in favor of israel makes you think otherwise about israel? If so, please quote) and are evolving beyond the need to hurt one another to make a point(Neither do I, and neither does israel, if there's anything that I've argued that implies otherwise- Please quote) and control the world's population through fear and hate (Who are we talking about? Who is trying to control the world? Is it me? Is it israel? If so please provide arguments to prove your point); hence the worldwide outrage of the attack on the "Flotilla." People (Again, who are these people? Where are they from, what are their beliefs, etc) have had enough of the lies (What lies? Have I provided you with one single opinion? All I've shown you are videos and facts. You on the other hand have provided nothing to further your point) and propaganda (Erm.. I think you need to open up a dictionary and look up that word). Evidently (How is it evident? Provide quotes), you have not (Awww.. You know me so well ).
You simply reveal your own nature with every post. So far, I haven't had to do any work, you've done it all for me. (Is that why you're not saying anything meaningful? Yeah, it does feel like I'm doing all the thinking, now that you mention it)
Many thanks to you for making this a very simple argument for me to win. (Congratulations! Now after your glorious victory could you please reply to any of the points that I'd made in my earlier post? That would be super, thanks.)
Much love to all...
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Cry me a river Eliad...
We also saw a group of so called special ops,armed to the teeth with fully automatic assault rifles attacking an aid convoy in international waters.
Originally posted by Eliad
I'm not crying, my friend, I'm laughing.
I'm laughing because the commandos were armed with paintball guns.
And that's no joke.
If you need proof just watch any of the videos online.
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Originally posted by Eliad
Uhhh.. What's not convincing about knives, hammers, hatchets and rods? You seem to only see what you want to see, my friend.
Cry me a river Eliad...
We also saw a group of so called special ops,armed to the teeth with fully automatic assault rifles attacking an aid convoy in international waters.
How many of them died again??
Oh thats right-NONE of them.
Are you sure its not you who is seeing "only what you want to see"?
[edit on 9/6/2010 by Silcone Synapse]
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Cry me a river Eliad...
We also saw a group of so called special ops,armed to the teeth with fully automatic assault rifles attacking an aid convoy in international waters.
Pics or it never happened. Identify these alleged "fully automatic assault rifles", and provide a picture of them in a commando's hands during the 'assault', or it never happened.