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The Protocols of the Learned elders of zion

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posted on Feb, 10 2004 @ 09:18 PM
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posted on Feb, 11 2004 @ 06:20 AM
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I have read through the first 15 Protocols and it looks like to me that there is just a little ways to go in fullfilling thier goals. I found it interesting that they call even Masons stupid gentiles and that they kill them in due time.


Protocol 15:9 WE EXECUTE MASONS IN SUCH WISE THAT NONE SAVE THE BROTHERHOOD CAN EVER HAVE A SUSPICION OF IT, NOT EVEN THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES OF OUR DEATH SENTENCE, THEY ALL DIE WHEN REQUIRED AS IF FROM A NORMAL KIND OF ILLNESS



They still have a lot of religions to silence though to get down to one. I'm sure in due time though they can achieve this wrather quickly.


As Ashlar quoted from the Bible earlier "They lie saying they are Jews but are of the synagogue of Satan". Does that also mean then that there is oppurtunity for stupid gentiles to become Satanist? And if they did would they just be craftily used by thier Masters? Who's the boss Satanist or Freemasons?



posted on Feb, 11 2004 @ 06:50 AM
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Its great that you are actually reading them.
Most people that speak about them (negatively) have not even read any part of it

the first world war will shatter the empires and will be a war of monarchs the second world war will be a war of ideologies

This along with many other such things prove this to me.
They predicted the past century and they predict the future also. this book takes the top shelf



posted on Feb, 12 2004 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ashlar
Its great that you are actually reading them.
Most people that speak about them (negatively) have not even read any part of it

the first world war will shatter the empires and will be a war of monarchs the second world war will be a war of ideologies

This along with many other such things prove this to me.
They predicted the past century and they predict the future also. this book takes the top shelf


I finally finished the protocals this morning. I see very little that needs to be done for them to be complete but then again I'm a dumb gentile. Far as I'm concerned they could already have thier King silently working in the background like a computer OS. It looks like there will be one final religion and another one known only to the adepts or elitist.

I can see where some of the religions need editing. They may have served thier purpose well in the past but times have changed. For instance people should be able to pursue any legal career they wish without conviction of religion. How many people have give up thier dreams because of religious convictions? How many a mighty man has been conquered by religion?

[Edited on 12-2-2004 by TgSoe]



posted on Feb, 12 2004 @ 07:25 PM
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The earliest Jewish holy works (Torah), right up to the latest (Talmud and Zohar) have continually promised that the world would be delivered to the Jews and that the Gentile nations would be consumed and ruled by the single Chosen People who would govern them. That this would be a coincidence, and the Protocols a mere act of deceitful anti-semitism, has to be the grossest form of ill-logic.

www.biblebelievers.org.au...



posted on Feb, 12 2004 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by boombye
just read the TALMUD, an official jewish doctrine...Just don't let a jewish person find out, because they can silence you, for it says so in the Talmud that the goyim are not humans and as such can be lied to or left to die.


Yes, the Talmud is what Jesjuah fought all his life, and you all know what happened to him, don't you? Saulus Paulus called the same doctrine "the Yoke of the Covenant", and Jesjuah himself called it the "Leavendough of the Pharicees" and the "Synagogue of Satan". The Talmud is an addition to the Torah made by the Levittical priesthood during and after the Babylon captivity, and like nearly 100% of what has come out of Babylon, it is purely Satanic. It was the Talmud which killed Jesjuah and his Apostles. Read it and you will understand the Gospel more clearly. Why Jesjuah said what he said, and why he was killed etc. Still today, most Jewish rabbis master this doctrine. Even the Christian ones. This is horrible to say the least. But some of them will repent as is written and return to their God.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 12-2-2004 by Hamilton]



posted on Feb, 12 2004 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
Zion really means Sion. The Priory of Sion was a Templar creation, originally consisting of only 9 members. The Order of Sion, which later became Priory of Sion. Leonardo Da Vinci ended up being a Grand Master of the Sion, which is an aryan term meaning, "sun". The purpose of the Priory of Sion is to protect the Merovingian bloodline of the Black Nobilty. It is also claimed that Jesus and Mary Magdalene are direct decendants of the Merovingian bloodline. The Order of Sion is believed to be started in the same place the Templars were formed, Troyes, France. A place of much 'anti-semitism' today. So what is the real story on this??? Anyone else have a view??????


You've read a little too much "The Da Vinci Code"...good book I suppose...but riddled with errors.



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by Ashlar

That is true


No it's not.


That particular libel was written by a Jew hating Russian Priest named I. B. Pranaitis in the late 19th century. It was thoroughly debunked not just on the content, but by the fact that this expert on Hebrew could not identify a single Hebrew word in a court of law. Like the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion that hasnt stopped it from circulating and spreading Jew-hatred ever since.

The real Talmud is nothing more than a scholarly examination of the Torah, or the Hebrew Bible, what Christians would recognize as the first five books of the Old Testament. It is not one book, but a set of 20 books, written by the greatest Jewish scholars of ancient times over a period of some 500 years. The Talmud is not written in Hebrew but Aramaic, and is said to take about seven years to read with understanding, longer if you dont understand the language.

So far youve bashed Zionism, promoted the Protocols and now youre bashing the Talmud. Whats next, will you deny the holocaust too?

talmud.faithweb.com...



[Edited on 13-2-2004 by Mycroft]



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 02:58 AM
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Mycroft,

The earliest Jewish holy works (Torah), right up to the latest (Talmud and Zohar) have continually promised that the world would be delivered to the Jews and that the Gentile nations would be consumed and ruled by the single Chosen People who would govern them. That this would be a coincidence, and the Protocols a mere act of deceitful anti-semitism, has to be the grossest form of ill-logic.

do you see the trend here? can you deny that the torah and the talmud are full of promises of world domination for the chosen people, is it not logical that they have a plan to acheive all that has been promised them?



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 03:02 AM
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since you have chosen to defend the talmud, i will challenge you to defend it all the way


www.usenet.com...

If you can defend these quotes, i will give you a million dollars



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 03:06 AM
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I would like to see anyone explain to me the meaning of the quotes that i linked to above.

Its written in very clear language, cannot be refuted



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Ashlar

since you have chosen to defend the talmud, i will challenge you to defend it all the way


www.usenet.com...

If you can defend these quotes, i will give you a million dollars


I'll tell you what, first you verify that these quotes even exist. To help you out, I'll give you a link to an actual on-line Talmud.

www.sacred-texts.com...



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 04:55 AM
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what you need to know about the talmud is that it is full of blanks.

everyplace an offending quote exists, a line has replaced it, these sections are meant to be learnt by heart. The original versions with the original text exist but they are in state libraries

The proof to me that they exist comes from a link that you posted

talmud.faithweb.com...

That link proves that the questionable material exists. then it depends if you accept their reasoning that the material is speaking about dowry... yeah right.



posted on Feb, 13 2004 @ 05:35 PM
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its just some person makin stuff up oka im jus makin this up right now actually i dont know wat im sayin have a nice day



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ashlar
Mycroft,

The earliest Jewish holy works (Torah), right up to the latest (Talmud and Zohar) have continually promised


How can you compare the Torah and the Talmud? The Talmud is a treason against the Law. What is written down in the Talmud and made law, was never intended to be law. The Talmud is a mix of several secular, traditonal, even mythical rules and was the school of the Pharicees, the Sadduchees and just about any person in the Land at the time of Jesjuah who opposed him and later killed him. The law which says you should wash your hands as a sign of purity, which infact took away the Jesjuah sacrifice from the Jews and over to the Romans, the law which says you are not allowed to walk more than the distance between Jerusalem and the Mount of Olives on the Sabbath, that you are not allowed to eat from trees and plants, heal on the Sabbath etc. All of these laws are Talmudian doctrine. It's Ba'al's doctrine. I though the Jews were supposed to be smart......

But the prophecy must be fulfilled: You will get law uppon law, rule uppon rule if you walk away from the Grace of God.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by Hamilton]



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 08:12 AM
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I see your point, however you must see that there is a big deal of difference between the old and the new testaments. they are almost opposite in spirit.

eye for an eye Vs. turn the other cheek

and the old testament is full of promises of global domination to the jews,
However; Jesus comes along and tells the jews they wont get anything, and they go nuts and crucify him
(these promises of world domination where repealed by REV 2:9 and 3:9 by jesus himself)



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ashlar
I see your point, however you must see that there is a big deal of difference between the old and the new testaments. they are almost opposite in spirit.

eye for an eye Vs. turn the other cheek

and the old testament is full of promises of global domination to the jews,
However; Jesus comes along and tells the jews they wont get anything, and they go nuts and crucify him
(these promises of world domination where repealed by REV 2:9 and 3:9 by jesus himself)




The Law and the Spirit is the same, but Jesjuah educates the ones who shall judge by it to be wise, patient and loving, like a father is to a child. He taught that the mission of the Law was not to destroy enemies, but to become wiser and to protect the least among us. He doesn't really come with anything new, he just shows us how the Father is, and how his rightiousness is. He taught us forgiveness, and showed us that forgiveness is what makes God God. It's really very simple.

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:01 PM
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and you shall slay the inhabitants of the land and you will take the land, and you will show no mercy to the nations, and you shall take the inhabitents and saw them in half and you shall burn them alive in giant ovens and you shall eat their eyes and their skin and you will shatter their bones and fart on their skulls. as for their children you shall slay them also, you are not permitted to leave anyone alive, lest you should inherit the wrath of the lord god of israel, as for the children of the surrounding lands, they shall become your slaves, and you will rape them and kill them and work them...

lets face it,, the god of the old testament is not the same as the god of the new testament



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 10:33 PM
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Yes he most definitively is. God is still the Master of war. He has always been, and until the day when all are rightious he will be. And even beyond that. But the agenda was a little different before Jesjuah had been born. Fulfillment. Like a child softens the heart of it's father and makes him proud and glad, and eventually lets him inherit everything he owns, such is it with the Old and the New Testament.

Besides; would you be so kind and provide a referance to your poorly hidden lie of a "quote".

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by Hamilton]



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 10:44 PM
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It may not be an actual quote, but its all in there, admit it



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