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Two Iranian ships to sail to Gaza

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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by habfan1968

Originally posted by ickylevel

Originally posted by TheBorg
It needs to be about how do we fix this nonsense, and keep it from happening again?


Destroy Israel. Or change its leaders. I'm sorry but there are no softs answers.


Remove Palestine, Hamas out of Gaza and let the Isaelis' keep that portion of land.


And you think they will stop there??

[edit on 7-6-2010 by Village Idiot]




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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 08:49 PM
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Wow. This could really turn a simmer into a rolling boil.
IDF could soon be saying "Persians and Turks and Arabs, oh my"!

Probably would mean that the blockade would cease. Israel thinks they are good, but they know they're not that good.

Hopefully the US would say "We helped get this bed for you, but this is how you made it, and we're not into sleepovers anymore".



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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I think you know as well as the rest of us, that when Israel parts its cheeks the US obligingly kiss's ass.
This will be the face-off that will either trigger diplomacy and a proper resolution to Gaza/Palestine or full-on war.
Iran is going to call Israels hand.
Should be a hectic two weeks at the UN.

The balance of power on the global stage is shifting away from Anglo-American- Israeli towards the East and South-America.
Whats the betting that something happens around Korea in the next two weeks just to add to the tensions on US foreign policy.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:04 PM
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as usual preconceived notions about iran will prevail.

Iran is one of the countries that won't give in to the NWO. So Iran is just deciding to gain as much attention as they can before war is soon declared against them. there is no reason to be so fearful of them, other than they wont play along. I'm glad they are throwing down this punk card on Israel. hmm isn't Bilderberg talking about proceeding w/war on IRAN as we speak?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by primus2012
 


I think you know as well as the rest of us, that when Israel parts its cheeks the US obligingly kiss's ass.
This will be the face-off that will either trigger diplomacy and a proper resolution to Gaza/Palestine or full-on war.
Iran is going to call Israels hand.
Should be a hectic two weeks at the UN.

The balance of power on the global stage is shifting away from Anglo-American- Israeli towards the East and South-America.
Whats the betting that something happens around Korea in the next two weeks just to add to the tensions on US foreign policy.


You are right. It doesn't matter if it's Republicans or Democrats in control. Israel gets equal protection above either side of the law.

I will certainly be paying attention this summer.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Foppezao
Why don't the Iranians make it to Eilat and give the stuff there to the Israeli's, prevents them from making the whole nine yards through the Suez and to Gaza.And Israeli's are also happy to screen the stuff first..
But to be honest not much good can come from this, only supports the theory that the whole raid last week was also nothing but a provocation[on part of the "aid"], just like this...buckle up people and hold on tight...

[edit on 7-6-2010 by Foppezao]


By "screen" that means removing items Israel disapproves, such as cement. Why bother sending the aid over land when Israel is going to block more than half of it? There's no point. According to the UN, the aid that Israel does permit through is only a quarter of what is needed. The status quo is unsustainable. People can either watch Gaza starve and have their land slowly stolen by illegal settlements, or do something. It's that simple.

I think it's unfortunate that it has to be Iran that presses the issue. They obviously have their own agenda. The US government should be running that blockade with aid. Our congress is full of shills so it won't happen. They've drank the Israel Kool-Aid far too long or they're afraid of those that have.

[edit on 7-6-2010 by andrewh7]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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I can see a couple of scenarios happening here:

1) Israeli navy/IDF will try to confront the Iranian ships in international waters, giving Iran the only excuse they'll need to go into Israeli waters.

2) Israeli forces will wait until the Iranians are inside Israeli waters, giving Israel every excuse they need to fire upon them.

Either scenario will end badly.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by babybunnies
I can see a couple of scenarios happening here:

1) Israeli navy/IDF will try to confront the Iranian ships in international waters, giving Iran the only excuse they'll need to go into Israeli waters.

2) Israeli forces will wait until the Iranians are inside Israeli waters, giving Israel every excuse they need to fire upon them.

Either scenario will end badly.


Does Iran have a comparable military with Israel's? That is, would it be somewhat of a fair fight. How does their technology compare?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Hulk Hogan
as usual preconceived notions about iran will prevail.

Iran is one of the countries that won't give in to the NWO. So Iran is just deciding to gain as much attention as they can before war is soon declared against them. there is no reason to be so fearful of them, other than they wont play along. I'm glad they are throwing down this punk card on Israel. hmm isn't Bilderberg talking about proceeding w/war on IRAN as we speak?


Amen. Two of the few countries that refuse to give in and create a central bank? IRAN, and NORTH KOREA. And you wonder why they're portrayed as the bad guys.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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I read an interesting article from Newsweek, theorizing that the blockade isn't about restricting weapons, it's about hurting the Hamas controlled economy.

Gaza Is About Butter, not Guns


The only problem is that weapons-smuggling is not the real reason Israel has been blockading Gaza since 2007, the year Hamas seized power there. Clearly, Israel has cause to worry about weapons flowing into Gaza from Egypt, Iran, and elsewhere. But the real reason Israel has sealed Gaza is economic. When it comes to the blockade policy, weapons-smuggling is a red herring.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by andrewh7

Originally posted by babybunnies
I can see a couple of scenarios happening here:

1) Israeli navy/IDF will try to confront the Iranian ships in international waters, giving Iran the only excuse they'll need to go into Israeli waters.

2) Israeli forces will wait until the Iranians are inside Israeli waters, giving Israel every excuse they need to fire upon them.

Either scenario will end badly.


Does Iran have a comparable military with Israel's? That is, would it be somewhat of a fair fight. How does their technology compare?


I believe that Iran's military compares well to Israel - the Iranians are primarily supplied by the Russians and the Chinese, while Israel is of course given most of its weapons, materials, technology, and money by the Americans, and other weapon designs they steal from other nations (such as the French).

In the Iran-Iraq war the Iranians showed themselves to be very capable fighters bordering on fanatical when the revolutionary guard were involved. Why do you think the world wants to keep going through round after round of sanctions? They know that any war with Iran would probably be long and bloody.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by babybunnies

Originally posted by Hulk Hogan
as usual preconceived notions about iran will prevail.

Iran is one of the countries that won't give in to the NWO. So Iran is just deciding to gain as much attention as they can before war is soon declared against them. there is no reason to be so fearful of them, other than they wont play along. I'm glad they are throwing down this punk card on Israel. hmm isn't Bilderberg talking about proceeding w/war on IRAN as we speak?


Amen. Two of the few countries that refuse to give in and create a central bank? IRAN, and NORTH KOREA. And you wonder why they're portrayed as the bad guys.


guess what you say is only obvious to someone who is looking...

though I think that there are other strings of control on these governments
this is about getting rid of the peasents on all sides...IMHO

donald rumsfeld sold reactors type stuff to N korea for instance

SOME FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNTS OF ISLAMIC IRANIAN LEADERS

Some Foreign bank accounts of islamic iranian leaders 1) Ali Khamenei - Sparkasse Bank (Frankfurt/Germany) Acct.# 234075617: DM 112.1 Millions - Corner Bank (Geneve/CH) Acct. # 217824: US$ 97 Millions - Banque Cantonale (Lausanne/CH) Acct. # 71713: US$ 73.2 Millions
noiri.blogspot.com...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 10:11 PM
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Calm down everyone this is not a big deal . In case you guys havnt figured it out Rafha is a border crossing from Egypt which they just recently opened do to the bad press Egypt has been getting for there part in the blockade. This is Iranians way of attempting to alienate them from Israel. The Egyptians stated they would only allow food and medical supplies through there checkpoint. This is only to make Israel wonder if the Egyptians will stick to that.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 12:28 AM
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Anything comming from Iran must get by the israeli boomers in the gulf.
Its my bet the israelis will stand by their blockade whatever it takes including war with the entire arab nations once more...
They (isreal) are proven adept at fighting more than one enemy at a time....
I truely believe they will stand standfast in the face of the entire world if nessessary, AND they WILL use the nuclear option never doubt it....
The game has allways been war with Iran from the start anyways....
The US will back isreal to the hilt if they end up fighting iran or any combination of foes.
Their interests coincide too deeply for the game to change now at this late date.
The action, if it begins in earnest, will be( shock and awe) X 100......
Both sides have some advantages the other does not.(and some surprises)
If iran has just one atom bomb however the war may turn out very differently than most would have predicted.
With isreal, and palestine becomming a wasteland for years.......
The israeli response turning the entire middle east into a radio active zone....



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by babybunnies

Originally posted by Hulk Hogan
as usual preconceived notions about iran will prevail.

Iran is one of the countries that won't give in to the NWO. So Iran is just deciding to gain as much attention as they can before war is soon declared against them. there is no reason to be so fearful of them, other than they wont play along. I'm glad they are throwing down this punk card on Israel. hmm isn't Bilderberg talking about proceeding w/war on IRAN as we speak?


Amen. Two of the few countries that refuse to give in and create a central bank? IRAN, and NORTH KOREA. And you wonder why they're portrayed as the bad guys.
and why they always face "sanctions" and why there are false flag events. the major countries just want to shut Iran up once and for all, and then rape it's resources

Iran has never been a threat to the UNited States and it insults our intelligence, to think they are capable of war or a nuclear strike against this country. don't worry there will be an event soon depicting Iran as the culprit, so we can finally invade them as well

[edit on 8-6-2010 by Hulk Hogan]



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 04:42 AM
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This is a non event being made big. The article says they are going to an egyptian port and then sending the aid by land. Isreal has always allowed aid through by land if ti's checked by either themselves or the egyptian authorities. So this aid will go through the Egyptian check point be found hopefully clean of contriband and then Iran will make it sound like they made Isreal back down.


So many times the point has been made on this and many other threads that the Israelis will NOT let through the materials that the Gazans need. If you have read this thread you will have seen only a few posts ago the list of prohibited materials. It is mind blowing!

MV Rachel Corrie had 550 tons of cement which is badly needed to repair the hospital and homes. Do you really think with your oh so comfortable view that they will let any 'disallowed' goods through?

This is NOT a non-event being made big and if you really think that then I suggest that you go down to a hardware store, buy a large bucket and a quantity of nice dry sand. You might need to stick your head in it to remain oblivious to reality. Much the same in my opinion goes for the lurkers who 'star' this sort of comment.

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The above definitely applies to you.

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Iran has never been a threat to the UNited States and it insults our intelligence, to think they are capable of war or a nuclear strike against this country. don't worry there will be an event soon depicting Iran as the culprit, so we can finally invade them as well


This has nothing to do with war against the US, and no I don't believe for one minute that anyone considers that Iran could take on the US.

This is to do with

  • OIL - Iran and Iraq control a sizable portion of the world's remaining oil reserves. The NWO does not want that oil being piped to China, especially since China is getting so strong and is slated for extermination viewed as a serious threat.
  • ISLAM - The NWO do not like Islam (or Christianity actually) and Iran is a self confessed driver of the intention to spread Islam across the globe and bring all countries under one Islamic Global Caliphate operating under Sharia law.

    They believe that if the stop Iran they get access to the oil and stop the spread of Islam. If they can foment a conflict in the Middle East and kill Islam they will be well pleased. They will not succeed of course, but that would appear to be the intention.



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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Iran is cleaver.......
they cant attack Zionist without a reason.....

so...
they send their aid ship....aka...to be attack by the Zionist....

now...
they have the right and the reason to make an attack....

great idea...
may god bless Iran.....




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