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With U.S. Aid, Warlord Builds Afghan Empire

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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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With U.S. Aid, Warlord Builds Afghan Empire


www.nytimes.com

The most powerful man in this arid stretch of southern Afghanistan is not the provincial governor, nor the police chief, nor even the commander of the Afghan Army.

It is Matiullah Khan, the head of a private army that earns millions of dollars guarding NATO supply convoys and fights Taliban insurgents alongside American Special Forces

Mr. Matiullah is one of several semiofficial warlords who have emerged across Afghanistan in recent months, as American and NATO officers try to bolster — an
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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More good money at work!

This is a speech Ron Paul Gave Last Year!

The truth is it is no coincidence that the more troops we send the worse things get. Things are getting worse precisely because we are sending more troops and escalating the violence. We are hoping that good leadership wins out in Afghanistan, but the pool of potential honest leaders from which to draw have been fleeing the violence, leaving a tremendous power vacuum behind. War does not quell bad leaders. It creates them. And the more war we visit on this country, the more bad leaders we will inadvertently create.

www.campaignforliberty.com...


That's almost prophetic
The sad part is that it's not prophetic or clairvoyance
It's just plain simple logic and common sense


Another thing that war does is create anger with its indiscriminate violence and injustice. How many innocent civilians have been harmed from clumsy bombings and mistakes that end up costing lives? People die from simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time in a war zone, but the killers never face consequences. Imagine the resentment and anger survivors must feel when a family member is killed and nothing is done about it. When there are no other jobs available because all the businesses have fled, what else is there to do, but join ranks with the resistance where there is a paycheck and also an opportunity for revenge? This is no justification for our enemies over there, but we have to accept that when we push people, they will push back.

The real question is why are we there at all? What do our efforts now have to do with the original authorization of the use of force? We are no longer dealing with anything or anyone involved in the attacks of 9/11. At this point we are only strengthening the resolve and the ranks of our enemies. We have nothing left to win. We are only there to save face, and in the end we will not even be able to do that.


Money being thrown around as if urine was more precious.

What do we do?
How long will this sharade last?

Forever?

www.nytimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 6-6-2010 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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Don't forget that this was how Osama Bin Laden got his start during the Soviet Afghan war in the 80's. Hopefully this warlord won't start fighting the U.S. in 15 years



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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Bin Laden is not a Afgan.

Bin Laden was there on a jihad against the Soviets.

Any comparison is ludicrous.

This area is a land of tribes.

Has been forever.

The only way to bring order to this or any part of the world that has tribal affiliations is to work with the natural leaders and not the "fake' leaders.

We learned this lesson in Iraq.

Tribes and warlords tribal chiefs,etc. exist even today worldwide.

For some reason those of us who live in modern civilization can not comprehend it.

When the SHTF and governments fail,we will all revert back to being part of a tribe for safety and security.

After all humans are not as "enlightened" as we would like to think we are.

Two articles that talk about it.

www.nytimes.com...


www.nytimes.com...


[edit on 6-6-2010 by Oneolddude]



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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How can you say I can't make a comparison between the two. All I was saying is that the CIA trained Bin Laden and supplied the Afghans with weapons. Sounds like the U.S. Military is probably doing the same thing with this warlord. I never once said that Bin Laden was a Afghan citizen.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Because blinded by greed and lust for power the idiots in d.c forget to study and learn from history .. No foriegn invader has ever conquered afghanistan.. Yet in their arrogance they think they can..



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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Another step toward the U.S. accepting defeat, they are preparing to stop chasing the invisible man. Bringing one country to it's knees, would never have brought one group to it's knees.

Now perhaps we can bring our men and women home, and hopefully not allow our chess game of keeping America in position cost us any more lives. Unless we again are face to face with an evil we can actually rid the world of.

It's about time the British played by our rules, although we've made many mistakes nobody has ever throughout history done it on such a grand scale that the U.S. military has only to have come home with nothing but more bags containing good young warriors.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by Sed Non Credo]



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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If the U.S. pulls troops out of Afghanistan then they will not be as prepared to attack Iran when the time comes.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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Very true and very valid point, I just hope Israel keep getting on the wrong side of us all so we don't feel the urge to come running to their side. Again.

Almost a waste of time discussing it really I guess.



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Afghanistan military intelligence, disasters & strategy


This CBS news story identifies a critical weakness in our military configuration - poorly defended supply lines whose vulnerability the enemy exploits to gain funds for its insurgency in Afghanistan and Pakistan.



"U.S. funds our enemy Taliban's Afghan war" (YouTube)


U.S. Tax Dollars Fueling Afghan Insurgency
House Investigation: Private Contractors Paying Warlords, Criminals to Get Supplies to U.S. and NATO Bases
Lara Logan reports for CBS Evening News
www.cbsnews.com...

(CBS) Billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars are fuelling corruption in Afghanistan and funding the insurgency, according to a six-month investigation by the House subcommittee on National Security and Foreign affairs.

The committee's chairman, Rep. John F. Tierney, D-Mass., told CBS News: "the business is war and the war is business and you've got 'Warlord Inc.' going on over there."



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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New Afghanistan railway helps Afpak strategy



Despite terrorists, Asia's trains do the locomotion with Condoleezza Rice. (YouTube)


Afghanista n to complete first railway by end of year Telegraph.co.uk

Afghanistan will complete its first ever railway by the end of the year, providing a potential new supply route for Nato forces whose convoys are being harried in Pakistan.

The 47-mile route will link the trading city of Mazar-i-Sharif in northern Afghanistan to Asia's extensive rail network.

The £110 million railway project funded by the Asian Development Bank has already laid 20 miles of track through desert from Hairatan on the Uzbek border the deputy minister for public works said.




Developing a railway network for Afghanistan is an obvious move to develop and to secure the less mountainous areas of the country in the first place anyway. Trains are ideal on the flat - not so good in mountains though where they need expensive tunnels and vulnerable bridges.

So it is excellent to see a start has finally been made to Afghanistan's first 75-km stretch of commercial railway.

Al Qaeda have attacked trains often - the London Underground on 7/7 in 2005 and the Mumbai train station in 2008 to name just two examples. So I hope NATO/ISAF are prepared to defend the trains, right?


Congressman Tierney's report shows how vulnerable our military supply routes are in Afghanistan and whether it is road or rail we need our supply lines properly defended by loyal troops and/or transport police otherwise our source of strength becomes a source of weakness.



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 08:57 AM
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Secure supply route border defences plan diagram

I have revised this plan to defend against anticipated indirect fire as well. This has involved widening the security border either side of the supply route to keep enemy mortar and rocket launcher teams out of range of the supply line.

Apparently, the Taliban are being supplied indirect fire weapons from Iran so defenders need to be prepared to expect attacks using weapons such as 120 mm heavy mortars, with a range of 6200 metres and 107 mm rocket launchers with a range of 8500 metres.


Iranian weapons getting through to Taliban

Heavy weapons are continuing to stream across the Afghan border from Iran despite Barack Obama's attempts to enlist Tehran's help in fighting the insurgency, officials have said.

So regretfully there is no avoiding the requirement for compulsory purchase of land and eviction of occupiers along a 19 kilometre or 12 mile wide corridor, the whole length of the supply route.

More aggressively NATO might like to consider long-range missile attacks against Iranian weapons productions facilities in Iran to dissuade the Iranians from supplying the Taliban.

Secure border for a supply route - 19 kilometres or 12 miles wide




Secure supply route border defences plan diagram (large - 960 x 1374 pixels)

As can be seen in the diagram, the border perimeter defences are much the same whether you are securing a railway or a road.

Diagram features. Explained for secure Afghanistan supply routes.

  • Dangerous ground Enemy forces such as the Taliban, Afghan warlords or Iranian proxies may be attacking the supply route from here
  • Vehicle barrier - deep trench / giant boulders / steep slope - so that truck bombs cannot be driven onto the route
  • STOP - Police check-point - police check civilians are unarmed and those in police or military uniform are genuine. Needs to be very robust so as to survive an enemy truck bomb.
  • Barbed wire - enough to keep out people and larger animals - so more than a horse can jump or cattle can trample over
  • No Pedestrians! Cleared ground Target zone for the machine gunners. A hostile intent should be assumed if an intruder is seen here and the intruder should be shot. The ground needs to be cleared of cover so that intruders can be easily spotted and cannot sneak their way past the machine gunners.
  • GUN - Fortified machine gun nests / pillboxes 3 man crew. Armour should be able to withstand an RPG hit and contains one machine gun with an effective range to 1000 metres, such as PKM or better. One every 1000 metres on both borders should be manned 24/7. Binoculars, automatic rifles such as AK47 and night vision for 3. Two or more other gun positions per 1000 m on each border are normally unmanned and don't need the expense of real guns sitting there all the time. Such extra positions confuse attackers and serve as firing positions for mobile reaction teams to occupy in emergencies and who can bring additional weapons with them.
  • Access road Where authorised traffic and people can access or leave the supply route.
  • Mortar teams' ground Defender mortar teams arriving from mobile response depots should set up somewhere here to fire at the enemy in the dangerous ground. The mortar teams' ground should have features to help to win mortar duels with the enemy such as observation points on higher ground or tall structures to serve as observation towers.
  • Safe building ground



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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Railway plan for Afghanistan

Right, I knocked this railway map up in 20 minutes so don't think I am making any pretensions to be the new Isambard Kingdom Brunel but here it is anyway - see what you think. Just a suggestion - open to amendment or your better plans if you have any.


Map of proposed new railways in Afghanistan (large 1378 x 1480 pixels)

So that is a plan for about 1500 miles or 2400 km of new railway.

I propose using a dedicated Afghan railway & road supply route protection force to man the defensive machine gun positions which force would be part of the Afghan army.

I have figures for the number of Afghan army to staff the railway & road supply route protection force for a 2400km railway.

At 2 defensive positions - fortified machine gun nests or pillboxes - per kilometre - this would be a total of 4,800 defensive positions to man.


I am assuming a 3 man team to man a defensive machine gun position at any time and to serve as lookouts.

So 3 x 4,800 = a staff of 14,400 to man the guns. Including officers to supervise, I estimate a total of 16,000 army staff on duty manning the guns at any one time.

At 3 x 8 hour shifts that is a total force of 48,000 army to defend the railway for 24 hours, 7 days a week. The off-duty staff would form a mobile reserve to respond to any sustained attacks at any point on the route and they would be best equipped with armoured vehicles to bring more fire-power to particular points on demand.

For the crossing points, and railway stations, the police check-points would be manned by a reliable Afghan police force.

I have not calculated the numbers of Afghan police required. That depends on how many stations and crossing points you have and how busy they are, how many people need to be screened and so on and I don't have an estimate of those numbers as yet.

Now that is a lot of work for the Afghans to get busy on but better doing that than growing poppies or serving with the Taliban or warlords, demanding pay-offs to allow our supplies through, planting IEDs or becoming suicide bombers.

This is war and in war conscription is allowed. In WW2 the British men had the choice of armed service or work down the mines. The Afghan government at our demand needs to give the Afghans, especially in poppy-growing and strong Taliban-recruiting areas, where the insurgency is strong, similar war-time choices.

All with the agreement of the Afghan president of course. So we would need a Afghan president who would agree to those kind of tough measures to fix Afghanistan and if not and he was happy with poppies, IEDs, suicide bombers, civilian and military casualties then obviously such an Afghan president is siding with the Taliban enemy is violating constitutional understandings about what NATO-ISAF are demanding from Afghanistan and such an enemy president needs arresting, impeachment, removal by NATO-ISAF and there would have to be a new election for president. Hopefully it won't come to that and agreements can be reached to end this drift and chaos of supply attempted across ground controlled by the warlords and the Taliban.

After 9 years of being in Afghanistan, the US-British-led coalition, NATO-ISAF instead of having a railway and roads and secure supply routes constructed, we have 300 British dead and 1000 American dead and not much to show for it.

I prefer a more purposeful plan such as this compared to the drift we have been getting so far from the Afghan government. It seems to me we need NATO-ISAF vision and purpose and a coherent military plan to save this Afghanistan intervention from disaster.



[edit on 18-7-2010 by Mr Peter Dow]

[edit on 18-7-2010 by Mr Peter Dow]



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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Anything is useless till Pakistan is taken out. Pakistan is the whole problem period.




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