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Honored by Communists?

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posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 10:38 AM
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The only place John Kerry is war hero is in Vietnam. Kerry's past is about to become his future. His photograph hangs in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- an indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam War. The charges he made shocked and sickened a nation, changed the course of a war and stained the reputation of the American military for decades. What you are about to see is going to do that again.

Honored by Communists
Kerry's FBI file
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[edit on 6/10/2004 by Venus]




posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 11:04 AM
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I'm with you McCarthy.


Let's blackball all men of conscious from the leadership of this country right now.

Mind you, I'm all for upholding the long standing tradition of dismissing youthful indiscretion as long as it's of a more crass nature, in which case it's just ancient history.

But as for trying to do the right thing. Well, we just don't need any of that.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 11:07 AM
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But the mass murder of civilians was never American policy in Vietnam. War crimes were the exception, not the rule. And the Winter Soldier tribunal itself -- which John Kerry had helped moderate -- turned out to be, in the words of historian Guenter Lewy, "packed with pretenders and liars."
ice.he.net...

I believe this to be the truth. I have known hundreds of vets from nam. Not a single one has every mentioned intentionally going and murdering civillians. Not the way Kerry and other activists claim. If anything,they went out of their way not to hurt civilians.
Kerry should not be allowed with in a mile of the white house. End up turning America.... the land of communisium.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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My oh my...............where are all the Kerry supporters now?

Poll
Should a man who falsely accused American troops of atrocities serve as Commander-in-Chief?

Sure 4.22%
No 10.21%
Hell, no 85.58%



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 12:15 PM
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Kerry, what a joke!!! Hahaha



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Venus
My oh my...............where are all the Kerry supporters now?

Poll
Should a man who falsely accused American troops of atrocities serve as Commander-in-Chief?

Sure 4.22%
No 10.21%
Hell, no 85.58%



Should a man who encouraged atrocities serve as Commander-in-Chief? And by the way it is widely known that our soldiers committed atrocities in Vietnam. So he didn't falsely accuse. Maybe he got the wrong individual soldier but that can happen in any criminal case. Fact is crimes were committed in Vietnam by American soldiers. I'd rather have someone like Kerry running this country than a man with absolutely no spine like Bush.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 12:55 PM
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I generally veer away from politics, but to say that Bush has no spine is ridiculous.

What do you think has kept him to the course he has chosen in the face of all this opposition?
(Agree with him or not...)

One thing Bush does have is backbone.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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No spine....you gotta be kidding me. Kerry is the spineless one. The guy is a jellyfish. He has flip flopped, and twisted so may times,he can't even stand up straight.

This guy backstabbed his country on numerous occasions. The only people he bent over backwards for where the commies. He does not care about America,IMO.VOTING RECORD



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 01:13 PM
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If this becomes a big story on major networks I think it will seriously dent Kerry's chances. I think the public reaction to something like this would be greater than if he was a draft dodger. I doubt it will get a large amount of mainstream attention though. If I were Bush's campaign manager though, it would be on TV 24/7.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 02:26 PM
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Say all you want about Kerry's voting record. Compared to what Bush has done it really doesn't matter. Do I care about his record on taxes? Why should I when I look at the deficit that Bush has created for us. Look at the war Bush got us into. A war that he had to lie about to jusitfy. Look at the freedoms Bush has taken away from us. Sorry but compared to the crap Bush has pulled in his 4 years what Kerry has voted on doesn't even compare. I'll deal with Kerry and his voting issues over Bush and his criminal administration any day.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Indy
Look at the freedoms Bush has taken away from us.


YO....HOMEY....NAME ONE....JUST ONE......of these freedoms you speak of.
Can't? Didn't think so.....pull your head out and take a better look around you



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 07:18 PM
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Lets see. Freedom of speech. Freedom of the press. How about the bill of rights. What about protection against unreasonable search and seisure? Ever heard of due process? Right to a speedy trial? How about the right to legal representation? Every one of these things has been harmed by the Bush administration. And thats just the tip of the iceberg.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 07:33 PM
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And your refering to what exactly Indy...the Patriot Act, as attributed and explained by Michael Moore?



seekerof



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 07:39 PM
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Not sure who Michael Moore is but the Patriot Act for one. And this witch hunt mentality of the Bush administration. Just label anything a terrorist you don't like and then deny them guaranteed protections. When you hold an American taken on American soil and deny him rights guaranteed to him by the constitution I have a serious problem with that. To me that is an act of war against the people of this country. Too many people are caught up in their daily lives to notice or care. Hey they said he is a terrorist so thats good enough for me. Thats how people think and its dangerous. It might be cute now but what happens when they accuse you because you associate with a website that may not be friendly towards the Bush administration. If you think like a Bush if you are against the will of the president then obviously you must be supporting them and if you support them that makes you a terrorist sympathizer. Not you directly but people in general. That is exactly the direction we are heading. When you just accept it like this then you are partly to blame for the problem. If a guy breaks into your tool shed and takes your shovel and rake and you don't complain about it then you have no right to complain when he comes back and takes your tiller.



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 07:46 PM
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At what point does someone support the Vietnamese Communists idealogy enough to respect their opinion to use them as a reference? If you agree with them on their views of Kerry, do you agree with their economic and political views? Or do you just agree that they are correct one this one point, and wrong on everything else? Maybe right about Kerry, wrong about their economics, but right about their opinion of rule of law? I said this before when someone else brought it up, if Bin Laden built a museum and displayed a picture of Bush, thanking him for all of the new Al Queda members that are joining up, would you take it seriously? If you accept how these people judge Kerry, you must think all of their opinions are valid. Or are you just picking and choosing what you like about these Communists? You agree with them about Kerry and the Vietnam war, but disagree with them about everything else? Or are there other things on an idealogical level that you and the Vietnamese Communists feel the same about?



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Indy
Lets see. Freedom of speech. Freedom of the press. How about the bill of rights. What about protection against unreasonable search and seisure? Ever heard of due process? Right to a speedy trial? How about the right to legal representation? Every one of these things has been harmed by the Bush administration. And thats just the tip of the iceberg.


Aren't you bashing Bush freely in this forum? Isn't the press still writting whatever they want to and even some of them bash Bush?

About the Bill of rights.....lets see what kind of people speak and have spoken against it....once again....

" My own view is that you can go to the extreme in either direction. And when we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans,
.............
When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.


Bill Clinton, President of the United States, on MTV's "Enough Is Enough."

Excerpted from.
www.city-net.com...

Also, notice the beginning of his speech, he actually make it sound as if making the United States a communist country like some Asian countries everything will be better......

As I have said before, demoRats are neo-commies, and the liberals are blindly following the communist/socialist propaganda also.

No wonder Clinton was selling our military secrets and selling the US to the Russians and the Chinese....


[edit on 10-6-2004 by Muaddib]



posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 07:48 PM
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That bin Laden comment was great! :-) Thats like the Hussein son that had pics of the Bush girls in his workout room.



posted on Jun, 11 2004 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by curme
if Bin Laden built a museum and displayed a picture of Bush, thanking him for all of the new Al Queda members that are joining up, would you take it seriously? If you accept how these people judge Kerry, you must think all of their opinions are valid.


I'm not sure if this was intended for me but I'm going to respond anyways:

If Bin Laden hung a picture thanking Bush .....we would ALL KNOW it was some type of "joke" or a bash on the administration. The point of the Kerry pictures are that WE DON'T KNOW it's a joke or a bash....and it's NOT. He is hiding many things about his connection to the communist. Ya....my votes going to Kerry ...........BAHAHA



posted on Jun, 11 2004 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Indy
When you hold an American taken on American soil and deny him rights guaranteed to him by the constitution I have a serious problem with that. To me that is an act of war against the people of this country. Too many people are caught up in their daily lives to notice or care.


Please name one American, taken on American soil and prosecuted under the patriot act................just one:

now hush up young one!



posted on Jun, 11 2004 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Venus

Originally posted by Indy
When you hold an American taken on American soil and deny him rights guaranteed to him by the constitution I have a serious problem with that. To me that is an act of war against the people of this country. Too many people are caught up in their daily lives to notice or care.


Please name one American, taken on American soil and prosecuted under the patriot act................just one:

now hush up young one!


I think you are missing the point. In order to be prosecuted, you need to be charged with a crime, which of course, you don't need to do under the Patriot Act. You can be held indefinitely without being charged or allowed access to the outside world. How many Americans are being held without being charged? Who knows? The Brandon Mayfield case became public, but the Act authorizes secret arrests. The govenment is now monitoring what books are being checked out and by whom. Secret arrests for a book being checked out? ("Under one provision of the law, the secret court that administers the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act can order businesses, including libraries, to hand over records for terrorism investigations."FOX News) Could happen, if the government remains unchecked.
WIRED
Had an interesting article on the Act last month.



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