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Originally posted by Tryptych
Have you heard that one meter (1m) is, when comparing the calculated size of the universe and the smallest found particle, right there in the middle?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
How Did Extraterrestrials Survive Their Nuclear Age?
The article does bring up an interesting question and some prominent people have interesting takes on it. One suggestion is that since there is no apparent direct evidence of ET life that quite simply, they didn't survive nuclear technology. Others take a stance that since we have survived our nuclear technology it follows that other life forms also would. Another possibility: they destroyed their home planet and doomed themselves to nomadic behavior.
No matter how one looks at it this is an interesting question.
Originally posted by Frith
Much like how debunkers use our own human scientific progress to gauge the potential progress of extraterrestrial civilizations in reaching other planets, the same applies here.
You cannot use human tendency towards violence as a gauge for extraterrestrial civilizations. All of them could be completely different and potentially peaceful. We just don't know as of yet.
Originally posted by Three Legs
reply to post by tothetenthpower
Imagine if a species who had a million years of evolution on us had worked these things out?
Or even one that is JUST as advanced as we are, realized it 100 years ago. Things would be very different.
Things would be different that is for sure.
1. There would be twice the human population fighting for the same resources.
2. Mankind would have gotten dumber and weaker as a whole.
The thing is as bad as war is, it is a neccisity for improved evolution of the top species.
To understand my point. Lets say we never have a war again and we all have compassion on our fellow neighbors and keep adding entitlements to keep people from falling througgh the cracks. Lets say we do that for a 1000 years and pretend we dont all go bankrupt or realize we are stupid for working when entitlements will take care of us.
So 1000 years later what would you have. Probably 100 billion humans crammed onto the planet. In that 100 billion you would have the majority stem from some underachieving, undereducated gene pool.
So we would basically live like in the movie Idiocracy but with a huge density of humans.
I have written this book as the result of orders received and which I have obeyed. Further, it is an account of events that happened to me personally - this I affirm. I imagine that, to some extent, this extraordinary story will appear to some readers as science fiction - a story entirely invented - but I do not have the imagination that such a fabrication would require. This is not science fiction. The reader of good faith will be able to recognise the truth in the message I transmit from my new friends to the people of the planet Earth. This message, in spite of numerous references to races and religions, reflects neither racial nor religious bias on behalf of the author. Michel Desmarquet, January, 1989
Nuclear fission and fusion as employed today for energy production and military uses are killing this planet, and no one in the scientific comm-unity has any idea why it's dying or how to save it. The reason for this is simple - they do not understand atomic structure, solar structure, or the complete dynamics of falling bodies. Physics textbooks erroneously declare our sun to be, in effect, a nuclear reactor. It is not. Because the scientific community feels confident that nuclear power is a part of nature they, as a body, have ceased to consider the possibility that perhaps they do not have all of the answers. Due to this arrogance, they are not even looking at nuclear technologies as possible causes of the damage we see occurring to our ionosphere, and if they do not look they will not see. Our planet is very sick and is weakening daily. It has reached a point where Earth's own mechanisms can no longer heal the wounds as quickly as they're being inflicted. In other words, we have reached a point of no return in that if nuclear fission and fusion are not abandoned and salvage operations begun immediately, the ionosphere will continue its rapid disintegration until life on Earth ceases to exist.
During the process of nuclear fission and fusion an atom is forced open a electrons escape. Science and industry assure us that this process is safe, because even though our knowledge of atomic structure is incomplete, any unforeseen damaging effects are prevented by the massive steel and concrete containment vessels. They are correct insofar as containing electrons is concerned, but what they have yet to realize is there exists much smaller particles of mass and energy which pass easily through the containment walls, and which strip off particles from the containment vessels themselves as they pass through. This results in an unforeseen and rapid decay of the containment structure itself - weakening it greatly within a decade - which in turn allows even larger particles (still smaller than an electron) to escape. Obviously, the problem quickly becomes progressive.
These minute particles released from an atom are negative in respect to planet earth. This means that these particles will be repelled from earth's surface to the outer regions of the ionosphere. Of course these particles are yet more negative in value than solar energy, and are also repelled from the energy emitted from the sun. Because these very negative particles are repelled from solar energy, they move around the earth, staying on the dark side of the planet in order to avoid direct contact with solar energy. These very negative particles tend to 'settle in" at any location which remains in darkness for substantial periods of time. For a part of the year this area is at the Southern Polar region (Antarctica). Accumulating at the South Pole, these particles assemble themselves with the normally positive ions of the ionosphere, which results in the production of an extremely negative plasma.
As the South Pole again begins to face toward the sun (Sept.-Oct.) this highly negative plasma is repelled, and now has nowhere to go but to Earth.
This results in a hole in the ionosphere in the South Pole region.
Some of the results of this disruption of the ionosphere will have immediate effects. For instance, as great shells of this negative plasma are pushed into existing shells of plasma, very adverse and abnormal weather conditions will be experienced world wide. In areas where the ionosphere is thicker, there will be an over filtering of solar energy, causing a reduction of sunlight available on earth and a subsequent increase in rainfall. In areas where the ionosphere has thinned, expect severe heat waves and drought conditions. Also, iron deposits attract these negative particles of mass and energy, and so areas with large deposits of iron can expect drastic changes in their weather cycles. A less immediate effect of this attraction to iron deposits will be that life forms in these areas will experience genetic changes, and an alarming increase in birth defects will be seen in these areas. Likewise, incidents of cancer and other diseases related to a breakdown in immune system activities will be noted.
As the destruction of the ionosphere continues, more drastic effects will be observed. For example, as these undetected particles of mass and energy are accepted at the poles (and elsewhere) they will undoubtedly result in an increase in the energy exchange of our planet. This will cause an increase in the rotation rate of the Earth. At first this increase will be considered a negligible factor, but the increase will be progressive, and will eventually result in the earth changing it's orbit. The elliptic will increase, and the Earth will begin it's drift away from the sun.
The increase in energy exchange will also 'heat" up the interior of our planet, resulting in great internal pressure. This pressure will be released in the form of great earthquakes and increasingly greater volcanic actions. The end result of these actions will be great continental shifts, and areas lying along existing fault lines will be at great risk. This increase in energy exchange will also cause a warming of the earth's surface, and the polar ice caps will begin to melt. Coastline areas will begin to disappear.