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Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by SSimon
Israelies have tried for so many years to get to peace with them. While they were ceasefiring ,Palestinians kept blowing themselves up rentlessly at patrol posts, they are educating their sons to kill as many jews as they can... but now, now midle-east is going to war. Historicly speaking it's not a good sign of things-to-come, now it's a final solution of their own and we will all become a liability for this issue.


I must or should i say am compelled to point out that in today's modern or evolved society, you are free to choose your interpretation, you simply cannot move forward into a merged society with values that are based on an ideology outdated.

This is a core issue with modern Israel. Obviously one must factor in the concept that politics are at hand and as history has shown or should i indicate the raw truth is always in conflict with assertion.




posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Will Israel Intercept or Not that is the Question.
Check and Mate.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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Probably a dumb question but really, what is Iran's interest in any of this?

Other than being provocative in its inclusion in this situation, there is no direct benefit to Iran by getting involved. Anyone who condones this is encouraging the destabilization of the ME.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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Ever heard of mutually assured destruction! Israel + Iran = Kaboom!!! The fact that we hold both of the Iranian fronts would mean jack # if they whipped out the nukes. If Iran were smart then bombs are already in the USA and Israel just waiting for the order.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by habfan1968
Probably a dumb question but really, what is Iran's interest in any of this?

Other than being provocative in its inclusion in this situation, there is no direct benefit to Iran by getting involved. Anyone who condones this is encouraging the destabilization of the ME.


My humble opinion regarding your more than average worded post.




1) Stability and s unified and acknowledged interest in the global market.

2).My fist reply reflects your second question and answers both first and second.

3) If an when you choose to move beyond what you have been exposed to, you should factor in what global geo politics are involved. I do not OR are my intentions to avoid youre post, but lets face it, the obvious is obvious.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by tristar]



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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"Then let Palistine raise their hands in peace and accept the State of Isreal instead of cursing them , and then begging for pity from the world!"

Perhaps, just perhaps, if Israel would stop strangling the life out of the Palestinians then they would stop cursing the Israeli's whilst asking the world for help. In other words leave them alone and stop the cold blooded and slow murder!.

"You really started speaking for the world now.... Shame on your arrogance."

I apologise if I sounded arrogant but I have yet to meet, face to face, ONE human being that considers Israel's slaughter of the Turkish aid workers acceptable.

Threats??............

You see, this is the problem. How can you not see the inevitable outcome if Israel continues along it's current path? No threat. No promise. Just a 100% unavoidable conclusion.
The world is not against Israeli's, it IS against Israeli piracy and murder.

It is not rocket science.

Start acting like civilised human beings instead of barbarians.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Since when does Iran want benefits?
Her crazy 'leader' has vowed to fry Israel in order to bring in their wonky Messiah- the EU will get burnt as well from terrorist nukes but everyone is in denial about the muslim and iran threats
Israel is not the aggressor here but her survival may be at stake with no support from her so called friends who , just like Britain in 39 cozzied up to Hitler. Nor was she the aggressor in the Turkish flotilla [peace] provocation contrary to all the media hype lies..
If all parties leave Israel and her Capital and land [Jerusalem and Judea Samaria aka west bank] alone - then things will stabilize . Incidentally Gaza is ancient Israeli land deeded to her from 3500 years ago via God's promise to Abraham and the children of Israel - any Nation disagreeing with that do to their peril
There will be no two state solution.
Gen 12:3
Curse the Jew- be cursed
Bless the Jew- be blessed
read the book and get educated

y



Originally posted by habfan1968
Probably a dumb question but really, what is Iran's interest in any of this?

Other than being provocative in its inclusion in this situation, there is no direct benefit to Iran by getting involved. Anyone who condones this is encouraging the destabilization of the ME.


[edit on 6-6-2010 by Yacov]



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Israel’s hands are bloody, bloody bloody! Those that defend the apartheid are bloodied as well! We need more countries willing to stand up to Israel. If Iran pulled 1% of the crap Israel gets away with they would have faced a regime change years ago.

The IDF uses Palestinians animals of burden for target practice regularly.





Here is how they deal with activists.



Here is what Jewish children are tought, its not just the palestenians that teach hate.







It has become a rite of passage that young Israelis expect to kill a Palestinian during their military service.





Also Israel is not the friend of the Christian! Large portions of the Palestinians are Christian and it is one reason for so much hate. In fact if Israel is not the antichrist I do not know who or what could be. Jewish owned media tear at the very heart of Christendom openly and without any reproach.

Some teachings from the Talmud (Judaism’s holiest book.)

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."



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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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All Iran ever does is talk...it helps take focus off the fact that they execute their own people (political trouble makers of course) and hang gays from meat hooks, etc.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:17 PM
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heil hitler
what a litany of drivel



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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:20 PM
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Like I said bloodied, and undeserving of even the time of day from me.


Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

That said, I know Israel had to stand and defend herself but those days have turned into something far more sinister.



[edit on 6-6-2010 by Donkey_Dean]



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Yellow Teapot


Are you joking or are you as mad and paranoid as your Avatar was?


I might be, but I wasn't the one bringing three foot metal pipes to a gun fight, nor was I the one native enough to think Israel wouldn't respond full force as they always do.



Who's fooling who? I actually helped load the medical supplies that went on board the Irish ship and unless you consider bandages, needles and camping beds as weapons, then you have to seriously rewind your words dude.



I'm not a simpleton, there is half dozen ways to get those supplies into Gaza and a flotilla is not one of them as you found out, or maybe already knew.

So once again what was the agenda? Did you think the Jews would just back down as you all paraded into Gaza?



Let's not mention that the real story here is the Israeli land-grab for the prime Gaza seafront, but are your heads really too thick to accept that the people of Gaza need food, water and a respectable standard of life?


Well it seems every war Israel fought and won and acquired chunks of land including the northern oil fields of Egypt..well they gave it all back, so I don't see them expanding their empire very much. It also seems that Gaza was under Egypt control for decades and they didn’t lift a finger to help them then, would not allow them any rights and finally dumped it all on the Jews.



The order of the Universe is 'Harmony and Balance' along with 'as above, then so below', we simply cannot allow the Israeli's to 'Lord it up', whilst starving their neighbours and fellow humans to death.


ALL the countries over there are using Gaza as a pawn. The Muslin countries did a high five when Israel took over the flotilla. The more desperate Gaza gets the better they like it since they use it all for their own propaganda purposes against Israel. Many countries’ real desires is to keep the chaos going and so they will provide all the weapons they can.

I don’t like any of the countries in the Middle East for they are all the same. Gaza would not be an issue and would not have blockades if all the Muslin countries were actually willing to work with Israel in the past on it all.




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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Calling me an idiot seems a tad harsh...

It's not as if I am actually condoning Israel's actions is it? Nor am I unaware of Israel's pigeon shoot with innocent Palestinian civilians. I was just trying to be as polite as is possible in these times of criminal lunacy.

Well done though though for your post. A definite star. Let's see what our resident IDF hacks have to say in response. Probably something along the lines of, that the farmers were in fact enriching uranium in order to supply Iran with nukes... Probably.

I would laugh but it's just not funny any more!



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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:28 PM
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I unequivocally guarantee you that Iran does not even try to accompany any ship to Israel. This is total propoganda.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Right on- folks should look at their media sources -
the Muslim propaganda surrounding Israel is rabid
y



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Donkey_Dean

Like I said bloodied, and undeserving of even the time of day from me.

If the Palestenians were Jewish we would not have these issues at all.

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).



[edit on 6-6-2010 by Donkey_Dean]


Well the Jews have been attacked by just about every country around them, so I guess I can't say I'm suprise by their attitude, or their over the top/life or death type reaction to any threat.



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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:37 PM
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Sorry



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Sure and when the Palestine mandate was laid out Jews were being slaughtered by Arabs etc. It’s just that it has turned from self defense into something far more sinister. If you saw a very one sided fight were a 6 ft tall guy was being beet down a midget with a ball bat. Who would you want to stand up for? If the tables were turned etc etc.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:45 PM
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HMMMM, i have but two questions, WHO SUPPLIES ISREAL WITH WEAPONS and weapons of mass destruction, in the past and now. Just curious for answers.
I'm for no side, over there. All they are are just a buch of thugs on a so called mission of god.

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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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Hello my friend,

you said,

Did you think the Jews would just back down as you all paraded into Gaza?

In case you still hadn't grasped the reality and magnitude of the overall situation, the Jews (or more accurately, the Zionists) will ultimately have to back down, for what is now coming their way is simply unstoppable. Israel does not have enough bullets (nor nukes) to stand it's ground. Israel is merely a fly compared to an express train in the greater scheme of things. Ok, a fly with massive ego issues but that's for another thread. I know David did Goliath, but can you not see Israel is now facing an army of Goliaths. They will need some sort of impossible luck but unfortunately they have used up all their Karma points. Even the evil alien who "chose them" will not be able to stop the forces of good (or God if you like) when it comes to the showdown.

Did you not read the religious texts? God always wins.

The Jews have been tricked by a demon. A false God no less.

Wakey, wakey...

I'll leave it at that as I am off to bed.

Night all.




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