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Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships

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posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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Very interesting report ...

Could this merry little group of ships hide a sub in its midsts ? Or would any sub conducting a shadow run be easily spotted ?




posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Max_TO
reply to post by thoughtsfull
 


Very interesting report ...

Could this merry little group of ships hide a sub in its midsts ? Or would any sub conducting a shadow run be easily spotted ?


I actually expect any Naval support would be minimal.. but enough to be seen as provocative by some, while maintaining an air of innocence. I would imagine it will create a stir when the ships arrive, especially a Hosptial ship. talk about thumbing your nose at the world.

It's going to push another nations into action to simply negate the possibility of the Iranian IRCC sitting in the Med. that's one powder keg that needs to be defused before it goes off.

Edit to add: or allowed to continue to keep everyones minds off the poor US employment figures and possible market backlash..

These things (like the release of the report into the sinking of the South Korean ship) seem to happen at the same time as some major economic issue..

[edit on 7/6/10 by thoughtsfull]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 02:58 AM
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Im sorry but you miss understood. My post was a questionable observation a line of debate



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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It is weird that Iran and Palestine think we are supporting Israeli terrorism. I guess it a subjective matter entirely. Either way you look at it someone is the enemy and one is the ally. No matter what side you take up it will end in death.

I personally think Israel should stop pushing people out AND Hamas should stop lobbing rockets and just call it a day. Both parties are at fault either way you look at it and both should take actions to stop.... in a perfect world.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 03:01 AM
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The war drums are beating...

[edit on 7-6-2010 by Spykemann]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 03:10 AM
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My bad thoughtsfull, I have retracted the post...
And yes it should be an interesting week.

Peace




[edit on 7-6-2010 by speculativeoptimist]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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I posted the same link on another page in this thread... I does tie up with the IRGC offer to escort aid vessels... which i am sure the Iranian Red Crescent Organisation will accept.

At least they are not talking of blockaide running by rather taking the aid through the Rafah crossing, however not sure how having Iranian Military vessels in the Med will sit with some. but then agian we should know by the end of the week.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by nite owl
They done this for numerous years, I say let them have it out. START SHOOTING BOYS. Get it over with so peace rules the land over there.


I wish it was that simple. I say nuke 'em all.

THEN peace will rule the earth. For a while.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 04:39 AM
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What a beautiful false flag setting? Iran opens fire on Israeli ships and then all hell breaks loose.


Since the illegal blockade in international waters is one of Israels design, i'd assume that Israel rather than Iran would be the aggressor, since to enforce their illegal blockade, they would have to confront the Iranian ships and probably use submarines/commando units to attack covertly using limpet mines or torpedoes initially.

If that failed then a direct naval firefight, with air support, initiated by Israel would probably ensue.

This of course would very quickly escalate in a rather dangerous way for all of us...which co-incidentally would achieve the global population reductions tptb have been trying to make us all believe we need. (which we do not)

Russia are long time allies of Iran.
USA and UK are allies of Israel (i don't know why, but they are), so this could actually be the run up to a very nasty situation for all of us...all caused by an illegal Israeli blockade.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by spikey

Russia are long time allies of Iran.
USA and UK are allies of Israel (i don't know why, but they are), so this could actually be the run up to a very nasty situation for all of us...all caused by an illegal Israeli blockade


Indeed. It's a dangerous little game that they're playing here. I hope that surely they are not crazy (and stupid) enough to start any conflicts over this.

Or maybe I'm too optimistic. Damn mankind, isn't there enough # going on? On top of everything, do we really need this stuff?



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 04:54 AM
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Nah...nukes are really old hat mate.

There are MUCH more powerful and dangerous weapons that have been developed than nukes.

Don't forget, nuclear weapons were developed 70 years ago...a LOT of time to develop much more dangerous weapons.

Apart from the usual NBC type nightmare weapons, there are neutron bombs that will destroy organics (like all life forms) but leave buildings, industry and infrastructure completely intact.

There are radio spectrum weapons such as microwave, that will do a similar job to neutron bombs, attack the flesh and biology, rather than the inorganic. Then of course there is Scalar, another radio (basically) related weapon which is so powerful, it makes the average nuke look relatively harmless.

The old NBC is deadly enough, and new variants of them are terrifying in themselves, but there are far more little known weapons systems that make them all look like child's play.

Not good for any of us, unless you happen to live in a very, very, very deep hole.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:02 AM
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Agreed.

It's pathetic to think we have progressed...to this. As a species, we could have been SO much more. So further along. But no...the greed of a few has ruined it for all.

The irony is they consider themselves so clever, so intelligent..but what the produce is ultimately idiocy and worthy of children.

Fingers crossed that this isn't designed to produce a major war, and is a storm in a tea cup.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:07 AM
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Good point. I am seriously starting to wish for some kind of epidemic. When you realize the potential of the planet and how life could be, and when you compare it to what a #circus this has become, makes me want to bang my head against the wall.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 05:29 AM
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Personally i wouldn't want to see people hurt, but i have been hoping for decades now that we have a positive 'intervention' from...outside, to sort us out and set us upon the path we should have been treading for the last few thousand years.

I know that sounds...out there, but i really mean it. If we can't do it for ourselves, which we patently can't, then someone or something, if they're willing, will have to show us the right way. I hope.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:04 AM
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here is a former U.S. marines account of flotilla attack.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:09 AM
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here seems to be Egypt's stance on this whole issue.

www.sott.net...



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by Danbones
Iran has won several media events:

The patrol boat hoax that turned out to be a US hoax

The weapons used against the coalition in Iraq that it turned out were made by the US, Britsh, and Israelis...

The shaw The US installed

THe Jews that turned down thousands of dollars each bribe money from Israel to stay in IRAN

The enrichment deal with Brazil

The US adnission that the US has been running covert black ops in Iran for years..

etc

etc


Errrr Proof??

Source?

Evidence??

Me thinks you talk nonesence!!!

Korg.



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:29 AM
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There is one another thing: Turkey will not let loose from it's right to punish Israel for the killed 9 Turkish & US citizens. If they don't get what they want.... maybe a new alliance is forming up here - Turkey, Syria, Iran, Jordan & Lebanon? It is hard to imagine Turkey in alliance with Iran but if the US & EU continue to humiliate the Turks they will turn their backs to them. Maybe also a good opportunity for the Russians - then the whole issue will turn out quiet explosive & dangerous. The Russians are trying to be friendly towards the Persians, they are in a wait&see situation. It is also true that the ties between the Russians and the Turks is getting better from day to day. Let's see what comes up from the meeting on the 8th of June (Russians/Turks/Armenians).



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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Dont forget we are in 21 Century so NUKE is old fashion; let’s talk about Gravity Bomb, HARRAP, USB (ultra sound bomb), neutron bomb ,etc…

[edit on 7-6-2010 by Prof. Twister]



posted on Jun, 7 2010 @ 07:17 AM
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Articles
Articles > Dr. Walid Phares > The Gaza Flotilla Prepared For War Not Peace
The Gaza Flotilla Prepared For War Not Peace Dr. Walid Phares
02 Jun 2010

De-Blockading Hamas?

At first glance, the takeover by the Israeli Navy of the "humanitarian flotilla" heading towards Gaza is just one more of the disputed crises between Israel and its foes. As in all previous incidents, the spiral of accusations will eventually reach bottom. While media attention will highlight the tactical events—seizure of the ships, rules of engagement, who fired first, the legal location of the incident and the other dramatic details—the rapidly expanding debate will soon reach the strategic intent of the "flotilla." After all the governments involved issue their condemnations and warnings in all directions, after the UN conferences and issues a statement and international forums mobilize to indict their predictably targeted foe—in this case Israel—the question unavoidably will be: why is there a flotilla heading towards a military zone, and what is the ultimate goal of the operation?

According to the organizers of the "Free Gaza" network which enjoys the support of Hamas and its backers in Damascus and Tehran but also of governments considered in the West as "mainstream" such as the AKP of Turkey and the oil rich Qatar, this vast coalition of regimes and organizations assert that the aim of the 700 militants and activists was to pierce the encirclement of Gaza and lift the naval blockade of the enclave. Hence the actual goal of the humanitarian effort is to relieve Hamas, not to ensure aid to the civilians trapped in the strip. For if aid and comfort was the sole objective of the operation, the material would have been calmly handed to the United Nations' agencies which would have forwarded it to the network of humanitarian associations and NGOs inside the afflicted zone. Either Egypt or Israel would have checked it and would have, under international obligation, sent it across the cease fire lines.

But the organizers of the flotilla, a vast coalition supporting the Jihadist organization based in Gaza, aimed clearly at a geopolitical gain: open a maritime path for Hamas to receive strategic support from the outside and solidify its grip over the enclave. Spokespersons for the "flotilla" would obviously deny the long term goal and focus on the humanitarian stated agenda. But had the architects of the initiative added a global plan to solve the crisis in Gaza, one would have given credit to the humanitarian version of the story. From Ankara to Doha, from Damascus to Tehran, policy planners are aiming at reaching "their piece" of Palestine, ironically at the expense of the Palestinian national aut




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