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posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 04:29 PM
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I go to Tuskegee University so I can say that the test in 1932 are true.

HISTORY OF SECRET EXPERIMENTATION
ON UNITED STATES CITIZENS

1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.

1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.

1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.

1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 The CIA begins its study of '___' as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1955 Army Chemical Corps continues '___' research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.

1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1958 '___' is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.

1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of '___' in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.

1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine.

1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.

1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government's current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.

1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.

1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.

1994 With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.

1994

Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War.

1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.

1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.

1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.

If our goverment thinks it can get away with this type of behavior they are sadly mistaken. There is a thing called karma and GOD is watching.




posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 09:14 PM
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I have see a program about the 1932 Tuskegee Syphilis Study, it was a horrible thing to realise that my nation did that atrosity to those black men.

Although I do love and support my country, reports like this make me not only sad, but ashamed.

I realise that quite often America is the "pot calling the kettle black" regarding human rights abuses - and for that I am deeply grieved.

Power corrupts the hearts and minds of men and leads them to abuse innocent people to gain or maintain control.

I've read enough to know that the information given above is accurate, and for that I apologise on behalf of my nation.

Deep



posted on Mar, 9 2003 @ 01:06 AM
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Americans have to realize that, even though information on these old projects is available today, that's only due to the government declassifying the info & even then you have to use the Freedom of Information Act to get it in the first place.

However, at that time, these were some of the projects that Congress voted (OUR) funds to pay for...As "black budget projects" that even those Congressmen had no idea what was going on.

This implies that our government is, now & today, performing such "black budget projects", but we won't know of them until decades down the line, after *today's projects become declassified*!

The only way to stop atrocities like this, The People need to stand up & tell our government "NO MORE BLACK BUDGET PROJECTS!"

Go to the thread xmb.abovetopsecret.com... and read it...
While not mentioned *specifically*, the elimination of such Black Budget Programs are a part of getting the government straightened out as outlined in that thread.


D

posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by N0_hope_in_sight


1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.

If our goverment thinks it can get away with this type of behavior they are sadly mistaken. There is a thing called karma and GOD is watching.


It's always good to know that there are some good men and women in government who are actually for the people as opposed to voted by the people, for themselves/party. But yes, after reading that it is saddening and sickening to see why any country would do that to citizens of their own country.



posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 05:47 AM
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Some ATS #face placed me on "Global Ignore" a couple of weeks ago.


Can anyone read this post?


[edit on 13-8-2004 by neomoniker]



posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 05:52 AM
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exactly, if thats what was going on back then, what is going on now?

worse.

-off topic, but those penguins are hilareous!



posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 06:36 AM
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I've read about this a long time ago, also our military was given experimental injections all the way up until 1975 until they got caught somehow, hubby was among the men who was in during that time and I would not be surprised if they are still at it. When we lived on a military base our water was contaminated by chemicals from a dry cleaners, I personally believe it was some sort of experiment since they lost our medical records but 24 years later they find them to ask me how many of us had cancer. At any rate we have some really crazy people in our government who operates under the idea that if harming a few to save thousands or millions is ok as long as they or their families are not involved. My own personal opinion is that these people who authorize this kind of thing and those that assist in it with full knowledge of whats going on should have the same done to them and tossed in prison the rest of their life.



posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 07:44 AM
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Thanks for the info No_Hope, it is pretty scary what has been going on in our own military.

[edit on 8/13/2004 by bzap]



posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by N0_hope_in_sight
I go to Tuskegee University so I can say that the test in 1932 are true.

HISTORY OF SECRET EXPERIMENTATION
ON UNITED STATES CITIZENS

1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.

1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.

1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.

1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 The CIA begins its study of '___' as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1955 Army Chemical Corps continues '___' research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.

1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1958 '___' is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.

1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of '___' in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.

1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine.

1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.

1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government's current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.

1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.

1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.

1994 With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.

1994

Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War.

1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.

1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.

1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.

If our goverment thinks it can get away with this type of behavior they are sadly mistaken. There is a thing called karma and GOD is watching.


cool



posted on Aug, 13 2004 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by neomoniker

Some ATS #face placed me on "Global Ignore" a couple of weeks ago.


Can anyone read this post?


[edit on 13-8-2004 by neomoniker]


Yes buddy, I can read it. Now, I to agree that these projects need to stop. Even if they are for the benifit of mankind. They should not be abducting and experimenting on citizens against there will.



posted on Aug, 14 2004 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by N0_hope_in_sight
If our goverment thinks it can get away with this type of behavior they are sadly mistaken. There is a thing called karma and GOD is watching.


They can and they will get away with it...if anyone gets punished it'll be a fall-guy, never the people at the top that benefit the most from this type of research taking place...

God is watching eh? I guess that's about all he does these days... he doesn't seem huge on sending goons down to smite the evil doer's anymore...oh wait...could that be because he doesn't really... ...

Well...I'll still keep my fingers crossed for the karma thing...there really MUST be someone chilling somewhere watching everybody's actions at once, deeming them 'wrong' or bad, and then making sure i somehow someway get something done back to me to balance it all out...works for me

question your beliefs people, chemicals aren't the only thing your being manipulated with



[edit on 14-8-2004 by anjeeeee]



posted on Aug, 14 2004 @ 12:00 PM
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>1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.>

I think this one was proven to be false. Either that or they went through a lot of trouble to cover it up. No links, just something I read a while back while doing research because I have a relative in prison here and he wrote me that a lot of inmates were coming down with boils that they couldn't treat with regular antibiotics.

He sent me a copy of a letter with this Nicolsons' name on it and I couldn't track anything down on him at the time. The letter I read was that MRSA was what was introduced in TDC and found out by this guy. That's the bacteria that is hard to kill. I think this one is bogus.

The other reports are all true as far as I know. I think the worst was the Tuskegee report. That was on 60 Minutes a while back along with the report of the '___' experiments on the military I think. It's been a while. It's really sick.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 10:46 AM
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Just to add- I was looking into vaccines for my daughter when she was born and I read about quite a few doctors who came out about 20-30 years ago talking about how they had done initial work towards the polio vaccines.

I guess when the vaccines were first released, they had processed them using some internal monkey organs. They didn't recognize them until later, but the vaccines as a result contained simian viruses.
One of the specific viruses they found frequently (I want to say SV21) has been proven in lab tests to cause brain, stomache and 1 other type of cancer as well as lesions at the injection site.
Each lab funded for the experiments with the virus has had the same results and prior to formal publishing has had their funding removed and the doctors were discredited in their communities (it was a reapeated process and happened to multiple projects)

These viruses are known to be cancer causing in multiple species so the government refuses to do a formal study on them or report that they could potentially be a problem. In recent years there has been a steady rise in the same types of cancer the virus is known to cause.

There has also been some speculation that it may pass through generations, as on occasion labs will test people for the presence of these viruses and have been finding them in children with cancer who never had the old polio vaccine!

That freaked me out when the doctor asked which viruses I would want to inject her with...



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by anjeeeee

Originally posted by N0_hope_in_sight
If our goverment thinks it can get away with this type of behavior they are sadly mistaken. There is a thing called karma and GOD is watching.


there really MUST be someone chilling somewhere watching everybody's actions at once, deeming them 'wrong' or bad, and then making sure i somehow someway get something done back to me to balance it all out...works for me




[edit on 14-8-2004 by anjeeeee]


Heh, Santa is watching!



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by anjeeeee

God is watching eh? I guess that's about all he does these days... he doesn't seem huge on sending goons down to smite the evil doer's anymore...oh wait...could that be because he doesn't really... ...


Yeah, so he created us with FREE WILL to latter hold our hands on everything?

VOTE!




posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 01:51 PM
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Let's not turn this into a religious argument now...



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 02:16 PM
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I've heard rumors about the tuskeegeegee airmen being treated (for hepetitus i thought) and Ft. Detrick being a possible location for the original synthesis of the HIV/AIDS virus, as well as the origination point of the Anthrax that was found in Congress (with phony letters from terrorists). I'll have to read through all of this stuff in more depth.

I also heard on the radio recently (DemocracyNow) that the Airforce during the research phase of the Manhattan project injected patients in hospitals (under false pretenses) with plutonium and other radioactive substances to observe the effects of radiation on the human body. There were 18 different test subjects I believe, and none of them were told that they had been adopted as guinea pigs for the US Airforce. One doctor, while he was secretly reporting to the military, told his patient that he had Schizophrenia; the man said he knew he had been injected with something that was harming him.

Also BIOPREPARAT, the Soviet Military's biological weapons project was suspected to have tested their creations on civilians (mostly prisoners.) The Russians developed the most sophisticated biological weapons systems in the world. I think they may have even synthesized neurotoxins (i.e. snake venom) with bacteria (i.e. plague). A book by Ken Alibekov: BIOHAZARD has all the details on the USSR's "secret" weapons project.

There was a time in the early 90s I think, when both the US and the Soviets were giving tours of each others military installations to one another. The book by Alibek says that the Russians were given a tour of Ft. Detrick, at their request, and a few other suspected bioweapons laboratories. According to him, at the time of there visit there was virtually no possibility of an American bioweapons program. (At that time)



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 06:45 PM
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I've heard about these things .
I didn't want to believe it in the beginning, that our own goverment would do such horrible things to us.
Well, now I believe that they can, but I have no proof.
Why ? Why would they want to kill innocent young women and 5 yr old children with AIDS????
If I ever find out that this is how AIDS was started the ENTIRE world will know about it.
This I promise.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 08:13 PM
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If I ever find out that this is how AIDS was started the ENTIRE world will know about it.
This I promise.



looks like you're gonna be busy








Professor Jakob Segal and his wife Lilli both believe that AIDS was laboratory manufactured at Fort Detrick, Maryland - home of Americas Chemical and Biological Warfare programme. Segal, a Russian-born Professor of biology at Humboldt University in then East Germany stated that AIDS was the result of a US germ warfare programme. The couple published their findings in a 1986 pamphlet AIDS: USA Home-Made Evil. The couple set about trying to show that the AIDS virus HIV is almost identical, in some regards, to two other viruses. These are Visna, a deadly disease that kills sheep, but is not infectious to humans, and HTLV-1 (Human T-Cell Leukemia Virus) which though not fatal is highly infectious to humans.


check it out...

www.deepblacklies.co.uk...

read it, and unfortunately, weep.



posted on Aug, 18 2004 @ 09:00 AM
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Thanks Bunkbuster, I'm on my way to read it now.





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